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cut the dude some slack. at the shoot he explained what the vision he had was. if you dig it then good if you dont then thats fine too. personally im not a huge fan of the vocals but i can understand the concept.

if the guy really wanted to go the sell out route he woulda made a track with the likes of Black Eyed Peas or some shit like that.

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Originally posted by Scoops markus can do what he wants.... he has nothing to prove to anybody anymore He is still highly respected through out the industry

Exactly why I thought why he even HAD to explain himself.

True fans will support him no matter what. He worked with people who inspired him, I'm sure most people haven't ALWAYS liked EDM - hell I also love rock so if I was an artist & was able to work with a band I loved why the hell not? It's not like he's doing a Tiesto changing his style completely, going out & doing stupid concerts or just showcasing himself like it's a popularity contest. He made 1 video, give the man a break - he's always been true to himself & kept his own sound which is not something I can say for ANY other DJ out there right now. Markus is unique, always has & always will be.

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Originally posted by FallingMoon he's always been true to himself & kept his own sound which is not something I can say for ANY other DJ out there right now. Markus is unique, always has & always will be.

Errr stayed true to himself? He used to be one of the coolest underground Progressive DJ's out there. He decided to chase $$$$, switched to commercial Trance and followed the rest of the superstar DJ's out there, turning his back on Progressive.
He's now doing the same thing following the Pop DJ's trying his best to make Pop records. If he was making the track because he loved it so much, why make a video (with himself in it)? Videos are made to hit a more mainstream market place, MTV etc. That's why he stars in them himself, because he wants to be that famous person. Would you ever see Sasha or Digweed in a cheesy video. No because music comes first to them.

I used to work for Sony, EMI and Virgin music managing bands/pop stars, I know exactly what he's doing and the route he taking. His management are doing the same with the rest of the guys they look after.

gotta pay the bills.....id rather be markus or tiesto or armin then the greatest underground anything

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Originally posted by Pete t Errr stayed true to himself? He used to be one of the coolest underground Progressive DJ's out there. He decided to chase $$$$, switched to commercial Trance and followed the rest of the superstar DJ's out there, turning his back on Progressive. He's now doing the same thing following the Pop DJ's trying his best to make Pop records. If he was making the track because he loved it so much, why make a video (with himself in it)? Videos are made to hit a more mainstream market place, MTV etc. That's why he stars in them himself, because he wants to be that famous person. Would you ever see Sasha or Digweed in a cheesy video. No because music comes first to them. I used to work for Sony, EMI and Virgin music managing bands/pop stars, I know exactly what he's doing and the route he taking. His management are doing the same with the rest of the guys they look after.

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Originally posted by Pete t Errr stayed true to himself? He used to be one of the coolest underground Progressive DJ's out there. He decided to chase $$$$, switched to commercial Trance and followed the rest of the superstar DJ's out there, turning his back on Progressive. He's now doing the same thing following the Pop DJ's trying his best to make Pop records. If he was making the track because he loved it so much, why make a video (with himself in it)? Videos are made to hit a more mainstream market place, MTV etc. That's why he stars in them himself, because he wants to be that famous person. Would you ever see Sasha or Digweed in a cheesy video. No because music comes first to them. I used to work for Sony, EMI and Virgin music managing bands/pop stars, I know exactly what he's doing and the route he taking. His management are doing the same with the rest of the guys they look after.

Hahahaha underground djs are the ones that dont have what it takes to get to the next level....The way I see you're just another person we can add to the haters list. God forbid someone wants to make something of himself

If Markus had only made the vocal version, I could understand some of this hate he's getting. But he made a version with no vocals...in fact, he made the version with no vocals first, and so far that's the only one he's really played at gigs or on GDJB.

So all this criticism and hate about the vocal version is just getting annoying. He hasn't even come close to forcing it on anyone.

It's there. He made it for fun. Listen to it or don't. It's your fucking choice.

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Originally posted by Pete t Errr stayed true to himself? He used to be one of the coolest underground Progressive DJ's out there. He decided to chase $$$$, switched to commercial Trance and followed the rest of the superstar DJ's out there, turning his back on Progressive. He's now doing the same thing following the Pop DJ's trying his best to make Pop records. If he was making the track because he loved it so much, why make a video (with himself in it)? Videos are made to hit a more mainstream market place, MTV etc. That's why he stars in them himself, because he wants to be that famous person. Would you ever see Sasha or Digweed in a cheesy video. No because music comes first to them. I used to work for Sony, EMI and Virgin music managing bands/pop stars, I know exactly what he's doing and the route he taking. His management are doing the same with the rest of the guys they look after.

True

fuck that commercial bs

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[i][b] I used to work for Sony, EMI and Virgin music managing bands/pop stars, I know exactly what he's doing and the route he taking. His management are doing the same with the rest of the guys they look after.

Hey man, being the photocopy guy does not count as "working" at all those places.

Yeah, I agree Markus can do what he wants and he is allowed to do something "unique".

I don't agree that he has kept his own sound because his last male vocal hit was absolute shit and sounds more like he went the Armada route with that one..

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Originally posted by Pete t Errr stayed true to himself? He used to be one of the coolest underground Progressive DJ's out there. He decided to chase $$$$, switched to commercial Trance and followed the rest of the superstar DJ's out there, turning his back on Progressive. He's now doing the same thing following the Pop DJ's trying his best to make Pop records. If he was making the track because he loved it so much, why make a video (with himself in it)? Videos are made to hit a more mainstream market place, MTV etc. That's why he stars in them himself, because he wants to be that famous person. Would you ever see Sasha or Digweed in a cheesy video. No because music comes first to them. I used to work for Sony, EMI and Virgin music managing bands/pop stars, I know exactly what he's doing and the route he taking. His management are doing the same with the rest of the guys they look after.

First of all, I'd hardly say what Markus plays "commercial trance." That's laughable. If you're talking about Armin then yes, completely but not Markus.

While he might have played prog you might want to remember progressive house died out. I've been into Markus since 2003 & I loved that style but it became a dead cause. How is a DJ supposed to play something that no one really produces anymore? Markus doesn't play anywhere near what Armin along with the rest of the cheesy DJ's play.

And while he might have made a few cheesy tracks doesn't mean he isn't true to his sound...I have yet to hear any other DJ play like Markus. In his studio mixes he still drops prog trance. Live he plays funky tunes which are meant for clubs.

If you want to talk about DJ's that haven't kept true to themselves you can mention Sander van Doorn, Paul van Dyk, Tiesto, Armin ETC ETC

Markus, sorry he hasn't gone that route. This song isn't my cup of tea but if he felt inspired then why the hell not?

I have no words. this is atrocious. it reeks of desperation for a "hit".

I don't hate Markus like some of you seem too. I like him but this video and song made me cringe.

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Originally posted by ChurchOfArmin Hey man, being the photocopy guy does not count as "working" at all those places.

You have no idea my friend. I'm in my early fifties, and have been in this industry 30 years.
I now own a very large publishing company associated with the TV and movie World.

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Originally posted by Pete t You have no idea my friend. I'm in my early fifties, and have been in this industry 30 years. I now own a very large publishing company associated with the TV and movie World.

No matter your experience (true or not) do not assume that you know what an artist is doing. Unless you are a psychic or a close friend of Markus, you will not TRULY know what is going on.

i can see clearly what is goin on and it sucks

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Originally posted by ChurchOfArmin No matter your experience (true or not) do not assume that you know what an artist is doing. Unless you are a psychic or a close friend of Markus, you will not TRULY know what is going on.

I don't understand all the defensive bashing, I'm not having a pop a Markus just observing what he's doing. He's a clever fella and a good businessman.

To dismiss the fact that he's a commercial DJ is nonsense. As with any product you sell in the World, if you want to sell more and make more money, that product must appeal to the masses and be more commercially viable. Markus obviously reached a point in his career where he couldn't get any further in the Progressive scene, he wanted more. Looking at the commercial Trance scene, it was much bigger. Grossed a hell of a lot more income, and was more accessible to masses, so he took this move.

There's no physic needed, the proof is in watching his moves.
Most daytime radio stations for example wont support instrumental tracks, nor tracks over 4 minutes long. To reach the greater masses you need this support, why he's making 3:30 minute versions of his vocal tracks in order to gain radio support.
The same can be said in the media World with MTV and such territorially, again why he makes supporting videos for his singles to get airplay support this growing his brand.

The more you guys support the fact he just a regular specialist Trance DJ, just devalues the true meaning of Trance. You/Markus cheapen the value of this scene, Trance is becoming a cheap laughable genre thanks to this misrepuestation.

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Originally posted by Pete t I don't understand all the defensive bashing, I'm not having a pop a Markus just observing what he's doing. He's a clever fella and a good businessman. To dismiss the fact that he's a commercial DJ is nonsense. As with any product you sell in the World, if you want to sell more and make more money, that product must appeal to the masses and be more commercially viable. Markus obviously reached a point in his career where he couldn't get any further in the Progressive scene, he wanted more. Looking at the commercial Trance scene, it was much bigger. Grossed a hell of a lot more income, and was more accessible to masses, so he took this move. There's no physic needed, the proof is in watching his moves. Most daytime radio stations for example wont support instrumental tracks, nor tracks over 4 minutes long. To reach the greater masses you need this support, why he's making 3:30 minute versions of his vocal tracks in order to gain radio support. The same can be said in the media World with MTV and such territorially, again why he makes supporting videos for his singles to get airplay support this growing his brand. The more you guys support the fact he just a regular specialist Trance DJ, just devalues the true meaning of Trance. You/Markus cheapen the value of this scene, Trance is becoming a cheap laughable genre thanks to this misrepuestation.

wish you woulda seen him this saturday

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Originally posted by nima86 wish you woulda seen him this saturday

I wish I could have, I'm due an injection of uplifting anthems, he doesn't often come to the UK though. Shame.

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Originally posted by Pete t I wish I could have, I'm due an injection of uplifting anthems, he doesn't often come to the UK though. Shame.

june 10 at ministry of sound. going to be a solo set. go and be blown away.

Sleepwalkers, even the vocal mix is hardly an attempt to attract mainstream audience. If you think it is, you either never listen to mainstream music or you didn't actually listen to the song. Markus has definitely made songs that do fall into more mainstream than trance, but this? No. It's not trance by a longshot, but it's not mainstream by a longshot either. Is it an attempt to get a wider audience or even to target a specific audience? Maybe. But since I've been reading about how Markus loved break dancing growing up and as young adult for the last 5-6 years, I'm going to take him for his word that this really was just a passion project for fun.

I played this track last week during my radio show and many people like it. I like it as well.

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