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Posted by Taipan on Jun-29-2011 11:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Two questions.

What does Facebook do with all the money it earns via advertising? Google has to support the huge number of free services they offer, for example. Mapping the entire world doesn't come cheap.

Why are people so scared of their "personal" data (i.e. what colour t-shirts they like) being shared? It's like those tools who protest against CCTV being installed - if you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't have a problem with being incidentally caught on tape.


Well, Google has far more advertisements than facebook but facebook makes far more money releasing personal information. I suppose my problem with them releasing personal data is if they are going to make money off me (which they are making a lot) they should pass some of that money THIS way.


Posted by Taipan on Jun-29-2011 11:27:

Also - its not just personal information like "what color tshirts you like" but Google also saves every search you've ever entered into the search engine. Forever. That's a little scary.


Posted by Lira on Jun-29-2011 13:15:

Great, even Orkut is now being upgraded to 2.0!

Del, come on, where are the flying cars you promised us here on TA!?


Posted by Lira on Jun-29-2011 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Euforix
You never know what CIA is going to do with that information.

I can easily tell what they'd do in my case.

"This guy apparently likes linguistics and philosophy and hangs out with too many girls of East Asian descent, being engaged to one. If we ever need a spy to change his mind about something, let's deploy Naomi Choi...msky"


Posted by Moongoose on Jul-01-2011 20:12:

They would assassinate me if they ever saw my search history...my interests in finance, rocketry, advanced physics and world domination, not to mention my belief that the world would be a much better place if someone dropped a nuke on the vatican, mecca, jerusalem and Clearwater, florida.


Then again, there are all those search strings for best slice of life comedy animes, so they could just figure me a harmless geek and leave me alone....



If only they knew


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jul-02-2011 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Two questions.

What does Facebook do with all the money it earns via advertising? Google has to support the huge number of free services they offer, for example. Mapping the entire world doesn't come cheap.

Why are people so scared of their "personal" data (i.e. what colour t-shirts they like) being shared? It's like those tools who protest against CCTV being installed - if you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't have a problem with being incidentally caught on tape.




Posted by noikeee on Jul-02-2011 04:20:

Frankly the lamest thing that happened to the internet in the past few years was the decline of the importance of chat rooms/group chats. I have no idea why they went out of fashion, they were awesome. You'd get to know people and get a bond with people. It doesn't really work like that in social networks or in instant messaging services, that's for talking to real-life friends or chatting up members of the opposite sex. Or maybe that's just me, I've never been the kind that randomly starts up private conversations with random dudes from the internet - "heeeeeeeeeey how you're doing?"

Forums like this sort of have that same atmosphere, the community atmosphere, but it's all too segmented in threads, sub-forums, whatever. It's enjoyable to have people talking all day long about random shit in a group chat, as long as those people are interesting to you. I do use a service (groups.im) which emulates a group chat in MSN by adding it as a contact, and talk regularly there to about 7 or 8 people I know from another forum. It's fun and we've all become good pals. I just don't understand why we have to use this strange hack, or go back to ancient shit like IRC. Why the hell have chat rooms have become gradually less and less mainstream? Back in my high-school days everyone used IRC and it was great. Nowadays all they do is Facebook and MSN.


Posted by Tasty Onions on Jul-02-2011 04:32:

Chat rooms are text only, thus boring (forums are also on the decline, btw; just look at the number of new topics created here over the last five years). The new web style is images and Flash objects being posted everywhere. So, the change was due to better Internet speeds.


Posted by ziptnf on Jul-02-2011 04:34:

I like Google+. I mean, Google practically owns my life as it is, so I don't mind jumping on board with this. It seems like it's a lot better than Facebook at the moment, and I really like those hangout things. Group chats are pretty fun, especially with your friends during random moments. I like the concept, it seems like a more practical way to go about social networking.

Oh, and add me, [email protected]


Posted by Tasty Onions on Jul-02-2011 04:37:

I thought it was still invite-only at this point.


Posted by noikeee on Jul-02-2011 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Tasty Onions
Chat rooms are text only, thus boring (forums are also on the decline, btw; just look at the number of new topics created here over the last five years). The new web style is images and Flash objects being posted everywhere. So, the change was due to better Internet speeds.



Erm, instant messaging is text-only and everyone still uses it. And facebook chat sort of counts as instant messaging.

I suppose you can do facebook chat for groups too, but it's not quite the same thing as old school chat rooms. I personally can't use it because you have to be "online" to chat. I've got all my co-workers on facebook and i don't want them to see i'm constantly online there all day long. Whereas we have to be online all day long on MSN because we use it for work.


Posted by Tasty Onions on Jul-02-2011 04:40:

Seems to me like people use IM a lot less, too. Different crowds, different habits, I suppose.


Posted by noikeee on Jul-02-2011 04:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Tasty Onions
Seems to me like people use IM a lot less, too. Different crowds, different habits, I suppose.


Hence why I said Facebook Chat counts as instant messaging. I suppose it's natural people move from dedicated IM clients to Facebook Chat over time, because it's all centralized. But it's just a different form of private instant messaging, really. Everyone still uses it, because if you need to talk to someone, and you either don't have their phone number and/or they're online, you're going to have to use a service of this kind.

Whereas people just don't use group chats as much, despite the fact it's still available, but clearly group Facebook chats and group MSN chats just aren't as popular as services like IRC were back then.


Posted by netroM on Jul-02-2011 08:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Tasty Onions
I thought it was still invite-only at this point.


Already invited? We've temporarily exceeded our capacity. Please try again soon.

I'm not even invited yet


Posted by Ted Promo on Jul-02-2011 11:42:

Google:

Creates social network. Invites no one.


Posted by netroM on Jul-02-2011 11:49:


one would've thought they had learned by now.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jul-02-2011 17:03:

A couple projects I work on use Wave as a collaboration tool. I generally feel its a bit too awkward. Also it runs like shit, even in Chrome, sometimes even idle Chrome will be eating up like an entire core while Wave is open in a tab.


Posted by djkopernikus on Jul-02-2011 20:38:

I would like to try this. Never used FB.

So invite if possible : [email protected]

Appreciated.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jul-03-2011 10:29:

There's a group chat option on facebook now?


Posted by netroM on Jul-03-2011 11:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
There's a group chat option on facebook now?

has been for some time.


Posted by djkopernikus on Jul-04-2011 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by djkopernikus
I would like to try this. Never used FB.

So invite if possible : [email protected]

Appreciated.


Received.


Posted by EgosXII on Jul-04-2011 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by djkopernikus
Received.


its closed... did you actually sign up??


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jul-04-2011 06:38:

any chance of also sending an invite to ?


Posted by EgosXII on Jul-04-2011 07:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
any chance of also sending an invite to]?


nobody can send invites, and even if they do the recipients can't sign up, cause google have locked it down hard after it was abused...


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jul-04-2011 08:44:

quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
nobody can send invites, and even if they do the recipients can't sign up, cause google have locked it down hard after it was abused...

Could you remove my email from the quote then please. Thanks for the tip


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