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This Thread is Progressive....

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Originally posted by Dinoz2013 This Thread is Progressive....

Is that because the various interpretations of the word 'progressive' are gradually building up layer by layer as the thread goes on, or because it is going off in a new direction which this style of thread has not seen before?

Progressive Attack...

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Originally posted by G-Con Times change, words take on new meanings and uses. Deal with it.

You and your mates sound like ignoramuses when you use the word progressive like that. Deal with it.

It's a marketing label and nothing else.

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Originally posted by nefardec You and your mates sound like ignoramuses when you use the word progressive like that. Deal with it. It's a marketing label and nothing else.

I'm not gonna bother getting into a debate with you or System J about it. I've read enough threads where one or both of you jump on people for using certain tags or genre descriptions in a so-called incorrect manner, enlightening us on the original meaning and use of the word, refusing to accept that for many people, that meaning has changed to something else.

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Originally posted by G-Con I'm not gonna bother getting into a debate with you or System J about it. I've read enough threads where one or both of you jump on people for using certain tags or genre descriptions in a so-called incorrect manner, enlightening us on the original meaning and use of the word, refusing to accept that for many people, that meaning has changed to something else.

But that's the point. To make your reply more thorough, they're both maintaining that the word, progressive, hasn't just taken on a new singular meaning. It's taken on so many "meanings" that at its newly distilled essence, it is practically meaningless.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker But that's the point. To make your reply more thorough, they're both maintaining that the word, progressive, hasn't just taken on a new singular meaning. It's taken on so many "meanings" that at its newly distilled essence, it is practically meaningless.

They didn't seem to be saying that in some earlier posts in this thread. Instead, they informed what the original meaning of the word was and how people are wrong to use it for its newer meanings.

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Originally posted by G-Con They didn't seem to be saying that in some earlier posts in this thread. Instead, they informed what the original meaning of the word was and how people are wrong to use it for its newer meanings.

Right. The issue surrounding the conflict then seems to be, not the facts pertaining to the original, genre-pertinent meaning, but whether or not using the word (other than when, and perhaps even if, referring to its genre-related etymological origins) has any value beyond that of creating further confusion.

Why isn't regressive a genre?

The founding artist can be deadmau5

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Originally posted by G-Con They didn't seem to be saying that in some earlier posts in this thread. Instead, they informed what the original meaning of the word was and how people are wrong to use it for its newer meanings.

We're not debating that the word refers to the music you're describing, just that the word did not arise from the structure of the music, but rather the marketing and music journalism world.

Progressive has meant the slow buildup and builddown of track structure to me and also most long out drawn house/trance tracks with slower BPM.
Thing is when other people i know irl refer to progressive EDM, most of the times, if not all, they refer to the same definition i hold.

Let's see if the progressive retards fall over my post as well...

I'd be extremely hard-pressed coming up with a definition of 'progressive' myself... all I can think of is a music genre usually around the 125-133 BPM range with a 4x4 house kickdrum lot of influences and sourcing from other EDM genres, such as tribal, trance, and even techno.

Stuff like Gat Decor's "Passion" and Leftfield's "Song of Life", sounds different from stuff like "My Lexicon", which sounds different from the Peace Division-esque sound doing the rounds in the early part of the 21st century, which sounds different from that whole "neo-trance" stuff popular with DJs like Sasha in the mid '00's, which sounds completely different from whatever they are calling "progressive" on Beatport now. I don't even know how Beatport classifies a track as "progressive"... it sounds like it's reserved for tech house songs that aren't too techy, electro house songs that aren't too overblown, Deadmau5 style sidechained 8th notes music, Anjunadeep, and the occasional late 90's throwback a-la Michael/Leavn/Steven Rivic.

Back in the late 90's, early '00's... prog songs were usually 10 minute long drawn out affairs... but nowadays you'll find stuff clocked in at the usual 6-7 minutes, so it's not like you can even use the "slow buildup" definition anymore... Minimal odysseys like "Minimoonstar" from Ricardo Villalobos (something like 18+ minutes long) have shot a hole in that theory, like System-J and nef have said. Kinda funny to see the 2 of them take the same side in an argument for once

One day people will be having this same argument about embers breaks and hopefully SystemJ will still be around to set the record straight.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Why isn't regressive a genre? The founding artist can be deadmau5

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