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Posted by RapidFire on Sep-09-2011 19:24:

i admire his amibition... but its misguided. Like most of the multi-faceted musicians out there (prince, bowie, etc), he fancies himself a chameleon, constantly shifting his artistic direction with every album. That's no small task but I wish he would stop following the current trends and start setting the precedent again.

He needs to go back to putting all of his passion and energy into a more sophisticated sound instead of desperately (and futilely) attempting to become a pop star. Sure that would come with a hefty pay cut, a significantly smaller audience and far less of an ego trip but at least he'd come away feeling artistically fulfilled. Or he can lie to himself and think he's making music of the same caliber...whatever works.

And it eems like most of his peers are suffering from the same syndrome. In an attempt to keep up with the current sound, they`re blatantly sacrificing their artistic integrity, as well as their individuality (the cornerstone of their greatness). Is it really that important to reach a wider audience? If your music is good it'll reel in the right crowd. What use is the casual fan anyways if his only reason for liking you is because you pander to his (narrow) views?

I still see a glimpse of the old BT on THM...but its fading.

/end rant


Posted by EddieZilker on Sep-09-2011 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
I guess I just don't understand why his opinion has to be groundbreaking or nuanced. It's something he said and they printed it.

At least with the JOOF stuff I understand people getting annoyed by it, but that's a little different situation.


I don't think it has to be nuanced or ground-breaking but then it's not really news and shouldn't be presented as though it's coming from any controversial point of view. The headline invokes this notion that he's in defiance of some arbitrarily imposed standard backed by a legitimate movement of trance purists. Whether a shadowy faction of trance connoisseurs exists, along with how much influence they exert, remains to be seen but their importance seems to be largely magnified so that BT has someone to defy.

That said, it's not the J00F/Perfecto marketing drive made to look like a subversive, rebellious campaign to "reform the scene" in the name of grassroots appeal. Perhaps he is being attacked unfairly and I'll concede to being completely jaded about most of the "news" articles that get posted in this forum. Still, it's just kind of an irksome static that isn't really important or interesting.


Posted by Seandroid on Sep-09-2011 22:02:

God this forum can be simultaneously amazing and incredibly annoying. People are allowed to like and play dubstep. BT didn't seem like he was being pretentious to me, it just seemed like he was rightfully annoyed at the people who go to a show and expect to hear the same music over and over again.

You can't win, people on here complain if you make something resembling classic trance because it's dated, but if you do something that's currently popular like electro or dubstep then you just "don't understand" and people whine about how music haw "gone to shit."

God help you if you happen to like a pop song! Liking anything on the radio is a great way to lose your oh so important "credibility" lol.

If you want to listen Xpander for the rest of your life that's fine but maybe try to broaden your horizons?

Idk..


Posted by srussell0018 on Sep-09-2011 23:05:

totally bro


Posted by Adam420 on Sep-09-2011 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
if you do something that's currently popular like electro or dubstep then maybe try to broaden your horizons?


Fixed


Posted by meriter on Sep-10-2011 00:02:

need more UK 2-step garage


Posted by Dj Pluviose on Sep-10-2011 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
if you do something that's currently popular like electro or dubstep then you just "don't understand" and people whine about how music haw "gone to shit."

God help you if you happen to like a pop song! Liking anything on the radio is a great way to lose your oh so important "credibility" lol.

If you want to listen Xpander for the rest of your life that's fine but maybe try to broaden your horizons?

Idk..


quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
if you do something that's currently popular like electro or dubstep then maybe try to broaden your horizons?


quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
Fixed


Lol. Amen to that.

BT, Tiesto, Armin, Ferry, Paul Van Dyk, and every other respected artist has forgotten what it takes to "become respectable."

The reasons could vary... they stopped trying, they sold out, or they lost their touch. None of us will really know.

But if they ARE trying to do something different, unique, and "expand their horizons," then they are not doing it right by targeting "the masses."

Seems like most of these artists nowadays have forgotten the fact that, if you want to be refreshing, do the complete opposite of what the masses are doing.


Posted by saluyamo on Sep-11-2011 05:59:

quote:
If you keep up with BT�s Laptop Symphony radio show


Does any here? and is it good?


Posted by Vector A on Sep-11-2011 12:09:

Think the majority of the "30 to 35 year old" set has moved on to house or techno. Otherwise he is pretty much right. Genre partisans are a bit of a dying breed. Probably a good thing.
quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
He needs to go back to putting all of his passion and energy into a more sophisticated sound instead of desperately (and futilely) attempting to become a pop star.

That has been his thing for over ten years. Remember this album cover?


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Sep-11-2011 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Vector A
Think the majority of the "30 to 35 year old" set has moved on to house or techno. Otherwise he is pretty much right. Genre partisans are a bit of a dying breed. Probably a good thing.

That has been his thing for over ten years. Remember this album cover?



I would argue Satellite is his finest track, love that song so much.


Posted by Vector A on Sep-11-2011 13:09:

I like "Satellite," too. Not saying the album was bad.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-12-2011 12:15:

He plays really shit music these days, and that's the only part that matters.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Sep-14-2011 03:43:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
He plays really shit music these days, and that's the only part that matters.


like.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Sep-14-2011 03:43:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
He plays really shit music these days, and that's the only part that matters.


like.


Posted by Teezdalien on Sep-14-2011 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
God this forum can be simultaneously amazing and incredibly annoying. People are allowed to like and play dubstep. BT didn't seem like he was being pretentious to me, it just seemed like he was rightfully annoyed at the people who go to a show and expect to hear the same music over and over again.

You can't win, people on here complain if you make something resembling classic trance because it's dated, but if you do something that's currently popular like electro or dubstep then you just "don't understand" and people whine about how music haw "gone to shit."

God help you if you happen to like a pop song! Liking anything on the radio is a great way to lose your oh so important "credibility" lol.

If you want to listen Xpander for the rest of your life that's fine but maybe try to broaden your horizons?

Idk..


I tend to agree with you here, while I can certainly understand a lot of critcism, these boards are full of pretentious know-it-all twats that rip on anyone that's had a taste of success, unless it's sasha/digweed. The constant negativity around here is pathetic really.


Posted by Neonbeats on Sep-16-2011 01:31:

wtf is this guy talking about. So he plays at a trance party and is surprised when people wanna hear trance all night? this guy slow?

and wtf is he talking about 30-35yr olds only wanting to listen to trance? talking out his ass


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Sep-16-2011 06:18:

Well like it or not the guy is the best looking edm producer ever.


Posted by sg_57 on Sep-16-2011 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Neonbeats
wtf is this guy talking about. So he plays at a trance party and is surprised when people wanna hear trance all night? this guy slow?

and wtf is he talking about 30-35yr olds only wanting to listen to trance? talking out his ass


Is there no value to the idea of coming to play for an event and presenting those who paid to attend with the best music no matter what the genre, rather than limiting oneself to a specific category?

Or would only idealistic dreamers even fail to notice that we have become a completely compartmentalized society, where just like at the fruit stand everything is exactly measured, calibrated and doled out in known increments, whether it's our entertainment or whatever else? And that therefore DJs have to deliver a reliable amount of specificity in what they provide, rather than getting all adventurous and experimental.

I get it. That anything-goes approach worked well when it was dinky hole-in-the-wall parties with 2-bit promoters paying you $20 for cab fare, but now that it's a big deal and lots of money, it's become strictly business.... deliver a reliable product that meets quality standards on schedule, get paid.

I think that this streamlined, utilitarian and landscaped approach to any genre of music is (oh never mind) ..... it's just like everything else really. Forget it, carry on... sorry I erred.

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