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Originally posted by kadomony I went with the UGLH Loophole mix. The rest is just standard fare, imo. Debating getting the UGLH Underground mix as well.

Yea UGLH actually did a good job with their remixes. It's definitely a track I wouldn't mind dropping in a more varied house/techno set. But still, most tech house is pure dance floor fodder and while this is pretty good, it's still just that. Hard to find that lasting/timeless quality with these tracks.

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Originally posted by Adam420 Hard to find that lasting/timeless quality with these tracks.

Agreed. I'd assume because there's no memorable melody. Hence why people almost always talk about trance classics.

That has to be it.

One thing I never got though, is why is so much of this tech house getting vinyl releases? Why would anybody care to have this stuff on vinyl? I mean if it were 1995 I'd understand, but I personally can't bring myself to buy a vinyl record today unless it's something really special.

I used to listen to a lot of tech house last year, I'm kinda falling out nowadays.. just like avicii's tracks being labelled as prog, there's a lot of 'tech house' that is just house with a big kick. Maceo Plex isn't tech house IMO. Deep house and nu-disco, hard to label but not tech house.

Also lol @ trance crackers saying tech house is just for the dance floor and it's boring and not for home listening, like trance is.

This is my fav tech house track:

-This article pretty much- much sums up Tech House.

Also haters please see below:

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Originally posted by Adam420 That has to be it. One thing I never got though, is why is so much of this tech house getting vinyl releases? Why would anybody care to have this stuff on vinyl? I mean if it were 1995 I'd understand, but I personally can't bring myself to buy a vinyl record today unless it's something really special.

I wonder the same thing. Especially the material coming out of germany STILL with the klinks and klonks, and of course lets not forget "bah-dooka-dooka-dooka-dooka-dooka-dooka-dooka) to infinity and beyond. (fuck you dubfire)

Basically the sound of "Desolat" or "Sci & Tec". I think they are both prime examples of atrocious sounding, soul-less modern techno & tech house (barring a very small few examples such as the moritz von oswald on Desolat)

They have an average crate-life of about 3 weeks, why anyone would want to take up space in their loft with this music is mind boggling. Its out of style before the post man can even drop it off for you.

THe most recent tech house vinyl purchase I made was the Benoit & Sergio that's already been highlighted in this thread. That song is above and beyond in so many ways. That track would get more attention if it werent drowned out by all the other shoddy competition in its respective genre. Whoever said diamond in the rough was right.

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Originally posted by corjay9 This is my fav tech house track:

Nothing personal, but you're actually proving my point with this post. I love radio slave, but seriously what in that track has any redeeming qualities at all? The bassline? Maybe. The effects and the overall arrangement is so cliched I'd probably go sit down if you dropped this and I was on the floor.

Most tech house wishes it was prog but they stripped all the fun out to sound more "serious".

Good job.

What would this be considered?

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Originally posted by Guest Nothing personal, but you're actually proving my point with this post. I love radio slave, but seriously what in that track has any redeeming qualities at all? The bassline? Maybe. The effects and the overall arrangement is so cliched I'd probably go sit down if you dropped this and I was on the floor.

The original is all you need

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Originally posted by enydo Most 'tech house' is prog but they replaced all the fun sounds with black and latin cultural references

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Yeah, that's what I meant.

I know there's legit real black-made tech house out there, but most of the stuff today is just an excuse for people to do drugs and feel "sophisticated".

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Originally posted by srussell0018 What would this be considered?

I have that listed in my collection as "House"
Not tech housey enough on the beat/bass imo for me to label it as such.

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Originally posted by enydo I love dancing to the exact same vibe for 5 hours!!

Yeah, exactly. There is some good tech out there, but it needs to have a place in a set. A bridge between house and techno, or house and prog, or prog and techno... whatever. Just don't play the same plodding 128bpm DJ tools for hours on fucking end.

Tech is, in general, the most totally middle-of-the-road dance music out there. It's not energetic, it's not atmospheric, it's not melodic, it's not really bassy, it's not soulful, it's not dark. It's nothing very much at all, just a competent beat that might keep you dancing for an hour or two at most. It seems purpose built for the bar or rooftop or patio party where everyone has sunglasses and shit facial hair and are more interested in talking and occasionally bobbing their head. It gives you a facsimile of a clubbing experience, so you can go out with friends, take drugs, meet girls/guys, but it almost never seems to have any passion in it, any genuine enthusiasm.

And what really fucking gets me is just how pretentious the genre is. All these endless references to Chicago, Detroit, jazz, forward-thinking, underground, cutting edge. There are 400 DJs in the same city playing your shitty white-noise-build black-vocal-theft haus, you cretins, and your designer scarf has more cutting edge to it.

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Originally posted by enydo Yeah, that's what I meant. I know there's legit real black-made tech house out there, but most of the stuff today is just an excuse for people to do drugs and feel "sophisticated".

sophistikation

i hold that contemporary tech house is mostly comprised of people who:

a.) were nerds or geeks in high school
b.) became interested in alternative rave/dance culture as a way of belonging to a group after the mainstream rejected them or vice versa.
c.) never became candy ravers, goths, or punks because though they were afraid of being labeled 'different' on the outside, harboring a strong secret desire to be one of the 'cool kids'.
d.) never became super interested in indie rock or were in a legitimate band because they lacked instrumental talent.
e.) or had way more instrumental talent than those shitty rock band emo kids but no friends or social life.
f.) replaced social skills with drug and alcohol procurement skills or deejaying skills
g.) grew up a little, then found that their geekiness/nerdiness could give them the cool that they longed for all those years, by channeling it through certain outlets (fashion, music production, philosophy, culture, and TECH HOUSE)
h.) are obsessed with the idea their music and scene is thus internationally culturally 'relevant', which creates and endless hunger for continued relevance, which leads to all manner of grasping for authenticity and wankery

or

i.) people who came late to the game who saw that hot, fashionable, drug-friendly international, cosmopolitan girls and boys were easy to bag at a tech house party. (aka the diddy-gerber theory of tech house)


'black-made' LOL

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J the same plodding 128bpm DJ tools for hours on fucking end.

actually it's worse now because the trend is towards super slow stuff. and it's getting more pretentious with all of the disco and funk sampling, because they are trying to own the myth of 'soul' in music, or at least lay claim to it. actually maybe a better way to put it is they are 'investing' in the myth of soulness.

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Originally posted by Guest Nothing personal, but you're actually proving my point with this post. I love radio slave, but seriously what in that track has any redeeming qualities at all? The bassline? Maybe. The effects and the overall arrangement is so cliched I'd probably go sit down if you dropped this and I was on the floor.

So with your reasoning, I'll take it that you hate all techno? What do you think about the Chris Liebings and the Ben Klocks?

This song/remix wasn't cliche when it came out in early 2009.. I'll agree that the arrangement and the spanish vocals and whatnot have been beaten to death since then, but you can say the same about all trends in music.

The growling bassline, the crisp hats, the percussion, the extended break and that drop completely destroyed dance floors for most of 2009. I heard it in a club and the place went ape shit.

All this to say that I saw Carl Cox last week and he played pounding tech house and techno relentlessly for 8 hours straight, and I was bored to death. Extremely dissapointed that he didn't switch it up whatsoever.

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Originally posted by enydo Yeah, that's what I meant. I know there's legit real EDM out there, but most of the stuff today is just an excuse for people to do drugs and feel "sophisticated".

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I don't like most tech house because it's a fucking percussion loop for 5 minutes, some white noise and the same percussion loop, but I do have a few tracks I like.

I think a lot of casual clubgoers are conditioned to bigroom tech house, so when they hear anything else at peak time they'll be dissapointed which is why everybody is continuing to play this stuff.

I mean the stuff works for big room/festival fistpumping but I think at some point even the Ibiza tourists are going to get bored of it.

I wonder where the tech house fans are, I'd love to see some defense of tech going on in here.

The genre definitely has its place, like System-J said, as a bridge genre. But hearing 4 hours of the stuff would be a total bore. I wonder which of these records coming out now will be seen as "classics" in a few years time. Kinda like minimal from a few years ago... can anybody really name any minimal records that were huge from that era that they still play?

when was it not wack? ugh.

It's a retarded term. Bleh.

But anyway...

Best tech house DJ I've seen is Davide Squillace. Awesome stuff.

I'm not really good at speaking in terms of genres. I personally would call the Maceo Plex tune more deephouse, but what do I know...

Is this a good example of techhouse? Never really liked this tune:

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