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Originally posted by geroin guy use to play records in early and mid 2000's yet he bashes a guy and calls him 1988 "DJ", shitting on his own history i can download richie hawtin set from 2006 and wont be able to tell a different from that and a new set, " he thinks hes so innovative and technologically advanced with his laptop, yet the only thing he invented in the last 5 years is a lit up gay cube.

Richie is on a douche streak right now. This kind of reminds me of another post I saw of his recently on FB that made me raise an eyebrow:

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Matching the tempo of two records together is a skill, but not something that I would call creative.

I used to be the biggest Richie fanboy that ever lived (I've seen him play over 20 times in 5 different countries), but he hasn't done anything for me in the last 3 years (save one set at Guv on Canada Day in 2009). He used to play sets that would just floor you, but now I find his sets uninspiring and behind the curve. Nothing about his sets sound unique, except for that one tired looping effect that he continuously uses.

He's the tiest0r of techno, and I feel like all he does is play watered down sets for the masses.

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Originally posted by geroin cool but other than playing a massive stage setup and constantly switching back a forth between screens/sets i dont really see the practical use of this to the regular user..

The possibilities are really endless. Richie developed it because he needed it for the Plastikman live show, but its really very practical for day to day use, like when your sketching out new clips or putting together a live set.

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midi where, in the mixer? this would only be helpful if you're trying to control knobs on the mixer through the setup on the laptop but again i dont see the point of this, you can use your fingers for that when playing live. (sorry not trying to be a dick about it, unless there is enough reason why midi is implemented?)

Yeah, they reconfigured the midi settings in the stock xone 92, so that it was practical for controlling traktor/ableton. Instead of needing a mixer + 1200s & control vinyl + another controller (or a keyboard, which is limiting because it has no faders or rotaries), everything could be done via the ctrl 92 at the time. Xone saw the value in this and came out with the 1D & 3D shortly after.

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agreed, i think after so many years and so many formats it is the only format that has survived for so long as a DJ medium, it is important that we (as a newer generation) continue this trend of preserving it (imo at least).

Absolutely. I was lucky enough to get into this music when vinyl was still the norm, I hope the kids in 5-10 years from now have the same chance to appreciate it. For me, vinyl is the same as an 808 or 303. It just has a timeless warmth. My top two favorite parties ever were both vinyl only (one with Magda and the other with Britta Arnold).

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Originally posted by The Highroller Richie is on a douche streak right now. I used to be the biggest Richie fanboy that ever lived (I've seen him play over 20 times in 5 different countries), but he hasn't done anything for me in the last 3 years.

I'll also echo this. The last time I saw a truly incredible Richie set was July 2007. He's gotten complacent. I think recently its because he's been doing the Plastikman Live thing so much (which I'm not a fan of), been so into the label, and hasn't actually been releasing any new material. He's also pigeon holed himself and minus into one sound. I'm actually really excited Magda, Marc, and Troy are doing Items & Things seriously right now, I find it different and interesting, like how Minus used to be.

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Originally posted by The Highroller He's the tiest0r of techno, and I feel like all he does is play watered down sets for the masses.

wow what a diss

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Originally posted by Jeff Button LOL I'm on the cubes side. But seriously, I'm on the side of " Richie can say whatever the fuck he wants"

+1

he was probably jet lagged and drunk and coked out when he posted that, cut him some slack everyone.

I would love it if that record pulling DJ got a whole shitload of gigs out of this fiasco.

Holy shit those comments are funny. Are you still eating out of your mouth like it's 2011 - lmao

First Kevin O leary, now Hawtin gettin schooled. So funny.

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Originally posted by The Highroller I used to be the biggest Richie fanboy that ever lived (I've seen him play over 20 times in 5 different countries), but he hasn't done anything for me in the last 3 years (save one set at Guv on Canada Day in 2009). He used to play sets that would just floor you, but now I find his sets uninspiring and behind the curve. Nothing about his sets sound unique, except for that one tired looping effect that he continuously uses. He's the tiest0r of techno, and I feel like all he does is play watered down sets for the masses.

Man this post is all kinds of funny.

The Highroller of years past just thew up a little.

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Originally posted by The Highroller He's the tiest0r of techno, and I feel like all he does is play watered down sets for the masses.

Funny, I thought the same thing when I heard his "new direction" at a Benson & Hedges sponsored event at the Opera House in 2003.

lol oh man

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Originally posted by LightsOut 3) CTRL 92 - A modified xone 92 with advanced midi capability, when this type of midi capability in a mixer wasn't the norm.

Pretty pointless if you ask me, since you can't buy it anywhere.

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Originally posted by The Highroller I used to be the biggest Richie fanboy that ever lived (I've seen him play over 20 times in 5 different countries), but he hasn't done anything for me in the last 3 years (save one set at Guv on Canada Day in 2009). He used to play sets that would just floor you, but now I find his sets uninspiring and behind the curve. Nothing about his sets sound unique, except for that one tired looping effect that he continuously uses. He's the tiest0r of techno, and I feel like all he does is play watered down sets for the masses.

but is it the fact that your tastes changed or that he changed. how do you really know.

i mean, everyone on here was the biggest tiestor fan in 1999 and now he is the butt of jokes playing the same tunes.

what i want is the music to be directly downloaded to my brainzzzzz so i don't even have to listen to it at all. when is that coming?

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess tiestor fan in 1999 and now he is the butt of jokes playing the same tunes.

he doesnt really play the same tunes..

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Originally posted by geroin he doesnt really play the same tunes..

lol, for me it's honestly the same actual songs. As the Rush Comes. Feel it rushing. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

it was a completely unnecessary statement on Richie's part. I'm glad he realized his error and I can respect his response to that facebook thread.

I will always prefer playing CDS and vinyl as the true art form when it comes to DJ'ing. There is something to be said about physically using a pitch slider to match two beats together while also thinking about keys, set-direction and potentially more than 2 decks.

That being said...it works for him, like it works for so many other DJ's. The only thing I ask is that they do something else with it. Too many laptop DJ's have become monotonous, boring and soul-less with their music and that really is the most frustrating thing of all.

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Originally posted by samhouse Too many laptop DJ's have become monotonous, boring and soul-less with their music and that really is the most frustrating thing of all.

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Originally posted by samhouse Too many laptop DJ's have become monotonous, boring and soul-less with their music and that really is the most frustrating thing of all.

This.

http://1800recycling.com/2011/05/mu...e-broken-vinyl/

EDM culture sure is conservative of its traditions!

I'm on Richie's side here. Looking into the future is way more interesting than dwelling on the past. I wouldn't begrudge someone their choice of medium, but I might also chuckle at all the hardships that must be endured and sacrifices that are made to project an image of authenticity.

Also, with reference to the raised eyebrow on the previous page, does anyone actually think that beatmatching is creative? Like he said, it's a skill, not a task with which you can express yourself artistically. I am not sure why people are so hung up on doing something the hard way when that time can be freed up for actual creative work.

A disc jockey, also known as DJ, is a person who selects and plays recorded music for an audience. Originally, "disc" (sometimes spelled "disk", although this is now uncommon) referred to phonograph records, not the later Compact Discs. Today, the term includes all forms of music playback, no matter the medium.


just in case you missed it



A Dj is a person who selects and plays recorded music for an audience, no matter the medium.

so shut up and dance

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess lol, for me it's honestly the same actual songs. As the Rush Comes. Feel it rushing. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

lol.

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