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Posted by Nadi on Aug-25-2002 04:59:

By the way, why would you not share them? Half the people on the boards are always complaining about no one listening to good trance, and its not like it really hurts you. Burning a cd is like half an hour and 15 cents


Posted by netw3rkd on Aug-25-2002 05:24:

I wan't a burner. 220 Gigs of HDD space goes fast when you're in the scene.

And I am going on vacation tomorow morning so I will be back in 4 days.


Posted by JohnSmith on Aug-25-2002 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Nadi
By the way, why would you not share them? Half the people on the boards are always complaining about no one listening to good trance, and its not like it really hurts you. Burning a cd is like half an hour and 15 cents


I completely agree. the reason i became a DJ is so i could spread music to people. I will give away mp3s, audio CDs, tracklistings, information, whatever, it all helps spread the music.

I make mix CDs, burn a whole spindle full of them, and just hand them out to people at raves!


Posted by vmc on Aug-25-2002 18:29:

Only two of my friends like trance so I borrow them my CDs with it and they enjoy it.


Posted by CortexBomb on Aug-25-2002 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by mr. poopyhead
its just music. not many people have time to go on forums all th time. your friends just want a little help being introduced to some new music, so why all this fuss?


I agree with you here...this whole thing smacks of elitism to me with people having this haughty view that they've "paid the dues" by spending all day downloading and researching tunes so for some reason the "lesser" fans are somehow unworthy...that's a crap attitude to have IMHO and it's why small music scenes stay small, because of the people who have such backward attitudes.

Whenever I have friends who're interested I'm more than happy to give them a copy of my latest compliation, or even to burn them a custom one if there's stuff that I know they'd like. I don't see a need to be the "high and mighty" trance god who hoards all the promos for myself...if it's quality I want to share it and expand interest in the scene...


Posted by CortexBomb on Aug-25-2002 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
I completely agree. the reason i became a DJ is so i could spread music to people. I will give away mp3s, audio CDs, tracklistings, information, whatever, it all helps spread the music.

I make mix CDs, burn a whole spindle full of them, and just hand them out to people at raves!


Damn straight!

I used to DJ super late night on a university radio station in Kalamzoo, MI, and that's completely how I felt about it. By spinning the music you help to spread the word and let people know what's out there...when listeners would call up I'd give them all kinds of info about the tracks, where to get them, etc.

I also make multiples of my mix discs to give away, I just don't understand why people would want to keep all the quality tunes to themselves...it's only going to hurt trance in the long run IMHO.


Posted by SportTrance on Aug-25-2002 21:05:

Spread the word, Spread the word.....blah blah blah.....

If you guys had any idea about the music scene in this country, you'd come to learn that spreading the word around here doesn't really help anything, at all. Some of you guys would like to see the entire nation listening to trance, infact, thats the wish of a lot of people. But you know what? It doesn't happen like that here. The music industry in this country is so corrupt with money, fads, bandwagoning and popularity, that the chances of electronica surviving and being strong to its truth are highly slim.

We've had our share of the "word being spread". Back in 99, we had a local DJ who pretty much brought a lot of the music to the scene. He spun on the cities #1 local mainstream radio on saturday nights. It ofcourse boosted the hell out of "dance", and what not. Well, lets just say I no longer really go to that club, and that DJ doesn't spin their anymore. A DJ still plays on saturday nights, but its almost as if its burnt out. As if its not longer a "new thing".

I don't feel the need anymore to let the world know about my music. Ignorance is bliss, if they don't have it, they don't got it. I've gotten a few of my friends into it, but thats it. 90% of the times, they like it, but thats as far as it goes. To this day I haven't known one person (that I "introduced" the music to), that has shown the amount of love and respect that I have to the music. Thats ok, I understand that. But I don't feel the need to spread the word. If they want to hear it, I'll let them, but thats all I need and should have to do. Give them a decent cd, if they dont like it, then well, they dont like it. No one walked up to me and handed me a cd and said "listen to this". I found it myself. People here have PLENTY of oppurtunities to fall into the music. We have PLENTY of clubs in the states that play our music. Don't think around here everyones eyes are closed and not exposed. They've seen it.

Our entire party scene has gone completely down hill. Its not just legality issues, its the bandwagoners, the wannabes, the druggies, all fuckin it up. How do you think they got there? What do you think influenced them to go to a rave? Last thing I ever want to see here, and I have always stated this, is any form of real electronic on MTV, on TV, or anything else. This shit has survived good and long enough outside these borders, lets keep it that way. I guarantee, this shit ends up on MTV here like most foreigners wish, then well, its pretty much going to go down from there. There's nothing more I can't stand than a poser. Someone "abusing" my music, for their own appearance and what not. Around here, music gets the money sucked out of it, used, abused, then thrown away. Don't forget the level of corruption/temptation the DJ gets, when he's offered a couple million dollars, to do remixes with with a rap artist, etc.

All in all, the music needs respect, and it won't get it here.


Posted by Tranz on Aug-26-2002 00:15:

Most of my friends listen to the same musik as me, but I tend to get it sometime months before them, so I try to make them CD's as much as I can. I'm always about sharing musik, as long as I know it is going in the right hands. Why waste my time & CD on some bloke who doesn't know what he is listening to???


Posted by Srezic on Aug-26-2002 00:35:

None of my friends really listen to trance or anything. I haven't tried to get them into it or anything cuz they are stubborn asses.

I'm sure if i had friends that listened to trance or house or progressive, or whatever I love, then we'd share songs and info with eachother.

But I haven't had to worry about that yet. =P.


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Aug-26-2002 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by SportTrance
Spread the word, Spread the word.....blah blah blah.....

If you guys had any idea about the music scene in this country, you'd come to learn that spreading the word around here doesn't really help anything, at all. Some of you guys would like to see the entire nation listening to trance, infact, thats the wish of a lot of people. But you know what? It doesn't happen like that here. The music industry in this country is so corrupt with money, fads, bandwagoning and popularity, that the chances of electronica surviving and being strong to its truth are highly slim.

We've had our share of the "word being spread". Back in 99, we had a local DJ who pretty much brought a lot of the music to the scene. He spun on the cities #1 local mainstream radio on saturday nights. It ofcourse boosted the hell out of "dance", and what not. Well, lets just say I no longer really go to that club, and that DJ doesn't spin their anymore. A DJ still plays on saturday nights, but its almost as if its burnt out. As if its not longer a "new thing".

I don't feel the need anymore to let the world know about my music. Ignorance is bliss, if they don't have it, they don't got it. I've gotten a few of my friends into it, but thats it. 90% of the times, they like it, but thats as far as it goes. To this day I haven't known one person (that I "introduced" the music to), that has shown the amount of love and respect that I have to the music. Thats ok, I understand that. But I don't feel the need to spread the word. If they want to hear it, I'll let them, but thats all I need and should have to do. Give them a decent cd, if they dont like it, then well, they dont like it. No one walked up to me and handed me a cd and said "listen to this". I found it myself. People here have PLENTY of oppurtunities to fall into the music. We have PLENTY of clubs in the states that play our music. Don't think around here everyones eyes are closed and not exposed. They've seen it.

Our entire party scene has gone completely down hill. Its not just legality issues, its the bandwagoners, the wannabes, the druggies, all fuckin it up. How do you think they got there? What do you think influenced them to go to a rave? Last thing I ever want to see here, and I have always stated this, is any form of real electronic on MTV, on TV, or anything else. This shit has survived good and long enough outside these borders, lets keep it that way. I guarantee, this shit ends up on MTV here like most foreigners wish, then well, its pretty much going to go down from there. There's nothing more I can't stand than a poser. Someone "abusing" my music, for their own appearance and what not. Around here, music gets the money sucked out of it, used, abused, then thrown away. Don't forget the level of corruption/temptation the DJ gets, when he's offered a couple million dollars, to do remixes with with a rap artist, etc.

All in all, the music needs respect, and it won't get it here.


i can see your point, and obviously we can't turn everyone on to trance. no one is asking you to be some trance evangelist here; you don't have to push your tastes onto others. but i mean, the issue to begin with was people ASKING for trance, and people not sharing. you don't need to spread the word in the sense that you talked about, but when your friends ask you for new stuff, then give it to them... they're your friends after all.

i see that a lot of your are mad at your friends for not giving the respect and worship that trance deserves. but not everyone is going to be a hardcore fan, but i'm sure a casual trance listener can derive the same pleasure from the music as anyone here...


Posted by jdat on Aug-26-2002 02:48:

You people are loser, and will only make sure, that the exposure to trance remains to a minimun.

off course this is all about your personnal preferences, but like, WTF is up with not wanting to share?
ok you're not gonna share with random people, but I mean this year and previous years I have tried my best to expose people to trance in whatever shape or form. I've had people snap back saying it sucked, cause they were into cheese techno compilations ... so what...

I've been able to turn a couple people into it seriously, and for that I say it's worth the effort... this kid who's 14 used to always tell me oakenfold rocks etc, well I shut him up and showed him there was more then oakey

I think the purpose is to share

it's like not wanting to share on the internet ... wtf is up with that ... you got possibilities to share bandwidth , SO DO IT

I don't get it why people open one or two slots on file sharing progs ... and then they are the same people who complain about never being able to find their files

I guess I'm to idealistic thinking everyone should have access to the same data, at the same speed, no matter who and where they are.

I believe internet should be free, and that no barriers should come in between....

and I've thought that since the days I got a 2400 baups modem


ok go ahead flame me for my idealistic point of views, but seriously give me REAL/CONCRETE reasons why you shouldn't share on the internet, or with friends?


I'm waiting


seriously


Posted by CortexBomb on Aug-26-2002 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
I guess I'm to idealistic thinking everyone should have access to the same data, at the same speed, no matter who and where they are.

I believe internet should be free, and that no barriers should come in between....


There's nothing wrong with idealism, in an idealistic world people would be free to do whatever they wanted for a career, and music would be completely free to anyone who wanted it.

Hell, you could even make that fly in a socialized system where the government would pay musicians a salary for creating music, which would be free to anyone who wanted to d/l it from the master servers.

Expanding on the idea a bit (since I've thought about this several times before) you could have each citizen get an ID and pass to access the master system to d/l music with a certain cap per month.

The artists would continue to be on the pay roll as long as the number of d/l's exceeded some defined number to make sure that only people who were actually contributing got paid.
Idealistic? Sure...but there's nothing wrong with wanting the world to be a better place...it's a lot better than being a jaded ponce IMO.


Posted by DJ-MC on Aug-26-2002 20:41:

Dog Running

the new songs i download i always share them


Posted by elena on Aug-27-2002 01:55:

"Expanding on the idea a bit (since I've thought about this several times before) you could have each citizen get an ID and pass to access the master system to d/l music with a certain cap per month."

whatta nutcase...doesnt it sound a tad too much like brave new world?

I dont understand greedy people who DONT like to share their music...what's the point of having the newest releases n such when youre the only one enjoying it.

Stop flaming the newbies for not knowing the new hottest tune and share.

If only i could get on the hub...


Posted by mr. poopyhead on Aug-27-2002 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by miss_e
I dont understand greedy people who DONT like to share their music...what's the point of having the newest releases n such when youre the only one enjoying it.



its an easy concept to understand... if you're the only kid with the newest toy, then you're special and you don't want to share with others. its called being an elitist.

as for the hub issue of only having 2 slots open, i only have one slot open, why? cause my upload is capped at 16k/s by my isp, so even if i opened 10 slots, they'd all get 1.6k/s which is lame, =P.


Posted by Lira on Aug-27-2002 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by mr. poopyhead


its an easy concept to understand... if you're the only kid with the newest toy, then you're special and you don't want to share with others. its called being an elitist.


If you need such thing to be special, you're not being special at all

I think we should share. I'm into trance because once, a school teacher decided to share electronic music with his students. Maybe, I would be still listening to crappy radio pop-dance, but I'm not, thanks to him.

What if they don't like what you like? If they came to you, that's because they're interested. I'd rather be know by someone who shares cool music with people than being some kid with the newest toy...
Elitism sucks.


Posted by Strike on Aug-27-2002 04:17:

a lot of people say they're not willing with share to a bunch of ppl who doesn't appreciate, and respect trance as much as themselves
and i agree...i wouldn't want to either

i don't mind sharing on the internet at all
when u share on the net, they're looking for the tracks

but i hate sharing with some of the candy raving people in my class
they goto raves juss to look "cool" with their glowsticks n shit
there's this guy i know..he asks me for some good tracks..i name him classics
he takes a listen...only to tell me they all sucked

i mean...this is coming from a guy who d/ls songs from kazaa by using the search term "trance"
the same guy who can't name me 5 producers off the bat if i asked him
the same guy who has been pumping exploration of space for over 6 months..and still goin

this is why i don't share my music unless it's on the net, or unless they actually do show an interest in trance

i think i'm converting one of my friends atm


Posted by whiskers on Aug-27-2002 04:23:

gimme my trance...


crap, lately i find any post that is over 4 lines to be extremely confusing...


Posted by whiskers on Aug-29-2002 15:49:

arghh, my sister just asked me to make a copy of Tiesto's In Search Of Sunrise 2 for her... so that she could do her AEROBICS stuff to it!!!

OMFG!!! aerobics!! to ISOS2!!! that's just plaing wrong... just a thought of that is plain wrong... it's like masturbating to a picture of your mom.... ewwww...

some people just don't appreciate trance for what it is... WORKING OUT to ISOS2??? is that some kind of a new fetish??? wrong, just wrong...


Posted by bongs on Aug-29-2002 16:40:

I have 2 close friends that i like to share with. When i hear something new, i cant wait to share it with them.

the thing that i always find funny and true is that...

everytime i burn a mix, they end up liking tracks that i least suspect. And not the ones that I thought they would.

just like how everyone's taste varies here.


Posted by Flec on Aug-29-2002 22:39:

anyone who doesnt share their the music to friends when they ask for it simply because you think they arent good enough for the music is a fucking asswhole and should be kicked out of tranceaddict

honestly who the fuck do you all think you are?

i know that if i hadnt of givin my friend that one cd he would not be the crazy trance freek he is now( btw he was a wigger b4 trance)


honestly all of you ppl get off on this shit "oh look at me i lisen to trance and you dont i can understand it!! im so cool look at me!"

thats not what its about! TOTALLY wrong attitude and you should all be ashamed of yourself


music is great and EVERYONE is allowed to lisen


Posted by netw3rkd on Aug-29-2002 22:44:

Riiiiiiiiighht......

So say if I didn't want to burn a copy of In Search of Sunrise 3 for a friend I should be kicked out of this forum? Heh...ooook.

Most of the peopel I have given a CD to say "wtf is this shit" or w/e. So I don't see the use.


Posted by whiskers on Aug-29-2002 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Flec
anyone who doesnt share their the music to friends when they ask for it simply because you think they arent good enough for the music is a fucking asswhole and should be kicked out of tranceaddict

honestly who the fuck do you all think you are?


we're 1337 underground

and my sharing with rock and metal buffs is officialy over. they always say trance is shit and think we're wusses for listening to it. wtf do i have to prove something to them.

trance to the masses? fuck that. we already lost oakenfold and tiesto to the masses. who's next???


Posted by Seventh City on Aug-30-2002 16:54:

ok 7th city is biggest ungreedy whore ever


Posted by Kurve on Aug-31-2002 11:56:

well i dont see why some of u morons (JK) dnt share u ******s got it shared to you ..... but hey if the person u think is worthy enough and understands the song then sure share it after u had it for a few weeks for your self .... but if the person wouldnt know the difference from darude to some digweed..then no point in giving such morons music its just a waste ..sorry for my expressions im drunk lol

.. but then again i understand and i would be lieing if i said i didnt feel the same way and sometimes we are selfish pricks who think the music is just for us as if we fuckin made the track ..but hey all i say keep a new track for ur self for a few weeks then give out cuz hey always new tracks comming out


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