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-- it has dawned on me that music that has no soul does not benefit the listener
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Here's the soul:
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| Originally posted by pointPi The heart has nothing to do with emotions. |
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| Originally posted by Teezdalien wrong. |
All I know is that when I have stopped following my heart, I have found myself walking backwards.
See, it's like I made this really profound statement which is literally true because your heart is kind of in front of other organs and if you weren't "following" it, you'd have to be walking backwards or sideways or something. I hope everyone learned something, today.
I know I have!
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| Originally posted by Adam420 Wrong? I don't believe the heart has any physical bearing on emotions. It's just an old saying. Emotions are triggered by chemicals in your brain. |
The heart does have a bit to do with emotions. For example, by regulating the heart beat with beta blockers, you can reduce performance anxiety. Your brain picks up on bodily cues (sweat, flushing, rapid heart rate) as indicators of fear, danger, and nervousness, so if you remove those cues, then you may end up "feeling" less nervous and fearful subjectively.
Well look at it this way, the brain will not function without the physical drive of the beating heart, right?
Well, nothing would.
Re: it has dawned on me that music that has no soul does not benefit the listener
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity if people want to enjoy life via music, soulful music is required. I'm not saying soulful as in a actual genre if there is one, but I'm using that as a proper adjective. even if brainless music sounds good, if it's overbearing, then it could lessen your morals and make you think you need some stupid chemicals to enjoy it. I'm not going to single out any artist or track, but if it goes BOOM BOOM BOOM and has no conscience, then it should be avoided in my opinion. I'm not surprised that my last mix, a tribal house mix got 0 replies. I'm not here to promote that - I'm just ok that no one gave a rat's ass about that mix. tribal house has decent music, but in my case, it didn't benefit my soul whatsoever. now I understand that the neighbours are justified when they get angry about nonsensical, crazy music. |
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| Originally posted by Ian Music is to each individual something different. To say that music with no soul doesn't benefit the listener therefore is too widespread a generalisation. If you're trying to reason with yourself that what you listen to must have soul then you're trying too hard. Relax and don't hit 'new thread' for everything that comes into your mind  |
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| In other words, it's a nebulously defined ideal which is measured subjectively and is not a condition any two people could definitely agree is present. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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| Originally posted by pointPi I'm sorry, but I'll have to strongly disagree on that point. First of all, your heart is nothing but a muscle whose sole task is to pump out blood to the rest of the body. The heart has nothing to do with emotions. Second of all, and I'm presuming by heart you meant your emotions, ART IS SCIENCE! We know that there are several neurological and evolutionary reasons behind to what we consider good music, and none of them has to do with "soul". In fact, they all have to do with craftsmanship and aesthetic value. Here's a video that explains it: To further elaborate, the way we are hard wired in the brain is the explanation to why why we e.g. consider a minor chord a sad AND listenable sequence of vibrations. Anyway, I've recently been thinking about why I tend to have a weak spot for uplifting trance, but not for say mainstream pop or happy hardcore. I wondered "how come?" and came up with conclusion "complexity, sexual neutrality and aesthetic value", not soul. |
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity and I'm not going to watch 17 minutes of that video. |
I thought this thread was a joke. I guess I was wrong. Also, that "art is science" post is taking word "heart" too literally. 
Anyways,
I want my dance music to be about dance. I want no "intelligent" and "soulful" pretensions in there. I just want music that is good to dance to and get lost into. I cannot explain how much I hate insistence that dance music should be listenable on its own. Fuck that shit. If you can't dance then don't bother with dance music and just go and listen to pop music. You have plenty of music genres for that, from classical to jazz to rock to ambient to New Age.
Uplifting trance, for one, is basically just modern New Age music accompanied by beats.
Re: it has dawned on me that music that has no soul does not benefit the listener
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity I'm not saying soulful as in a actual genre if there is one |
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| Originally posted by jvs I thought this thread was a joke. I guess I was wrong. Also, that "art is science" post is taking word "heart" too literally. Anyways, I want my dance music to be about dance. I want no "intelligent" and "soulful" pretensions in there. I just want music that is good to dance to and get lost into. I cannot explain how much I hate insistence that dance music should be listenable on its own. Fuck that shit. If you can't dance then don't bother with dance music and just go and listen to pop music. You have plenty of music genres for that, from classical to jazz to rock to ambient to New Age. Uplifting trance, for one, is basically just modern New Age music accompanied by beats. |
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| Originally posted by EddieZilker All I know is that when I have stopped following my heart, I have found myself walking backwards. See, it's like I made this really profound statement which is literally true because your heart is kind of in front of other organs and if you weren't "following" it, you'd have to be walking backwards or sideways or something. I hope everyone learned something, today. I know I have! |
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| Originally posted by jvs I thought this thread was a joke. |
contrary to that track by a godless producer, tell me this track doesn't have more soul courtesy of a black woman.
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity contrary to that track by a godless producer |
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| Originally posted by ziptnf You must worship a god to create soulful music? |
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity contrary to that track by a godless producer, tell me this track doesn't have more soul courtesy of a black woman. |
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity well I don't mean to beat around the bush here, but I'm sure atheists can be spiritual. that doesn't mean they're religious, but I'm sure the first-rate atheistic producers psyche themselves up through some god they can see and touch. it could be a matter of some gay illegal psychedelic drug. |
'soul' in music is a myth.
it's a marketing gimmick
a shibboleth
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| Originally posted by nefardec 'soul' in music is a myth. it's a marketing gimmick a shibboleth |
it has dawned on me that my idea of soul in music is complete bollocks. have a nice day.
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