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Re: Re: photek - glamourama [solaris

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Originally posted by stev� uggggh cant remember which GU cd this was on. Lee Burridge? Danny Tenaglia?

Nic Fanciulli

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Originally posted by ripped and for those of you who consider Photek's productions bland and unmemorable just listen to this first track of Solaris

Well I already have, and I completely forgot what it sounded like. And listening again, I can understand why. Why is this track supposed to be impressive? It sounds like a percussive intro that never turns into anything. There are about five elements in the whole track, most of them just rehashes of hip-hop/electro staples from a billion prior tracks. Same with Glamourama - three or four stock drum machine sounds arranged in a totally linear beat. Add a bassline and spoken sample and you have yourself a production-line techno track. Sounds like something made in 1988.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well I already have, and I completely forgot what it sounded like. And listening again, I can understand why. Why is this track supposed to be impressive? It sounds like a percussive intro that never turns into anything. There are about five elements in the whole track, most of them just rehashes of hip-hop/electro staples from a billion prior tracks. Same with Glamourama - three or four stock drum machine sounds arranged in a totally linear beat. Add a bassline and spoken sample and you have yourself a production-line techno track. Sounds like something made in 1988.

it's nice that you can describe all this stuff but it doesn't matter how simplistic the track is sample and arrangment wise, what matters is the feeling that is created by it

You make it sound like there's no connection between the sounds and their arrangements in a piece of music and the feeling that is created. If there's no attempt to explain how or why a piece of music appeals to us (or doesn't) there is no "music discussion", there's just a procession of Youtube embeds. Ultimately, none of these tracks make me feel anything at all. It's almost as if they're supposed to sound sterile, and yet that flies in the face of the connotations of the cover art.

and also there are things like personal tastes, musical backgrounds and differences in perception

that's why discussing these things is like talking about eternity, there is no universal approach, everything's subjective and all that

Re: photek - glamourama [solaris

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Originally posted by MSZ hey, could anyone recommend some similair track to this one, i peeled this off a really nice album from 2000, which i like a lot. its a very deep tech, garagy type of track, that sounds kind of triggered and has atmosphere in some ways. let me know, its one of my favorite house tracks

Probably missing some of the characteristics you are looking for but this one has been one of my favorites.

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Originally posted by caddyshack Probably missing some of the characteristics you are looking for but this one has been one of my favorites.

no its much off base, this is a very very nice prog track though, i havent heard it. prog is my biggest passion cheers.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay soulphiction IMO.

soulsphinctor imo.

since were on the topic of awesome prog. im very thankful photek was the cause of this track. im sure he inspired A LOT of producers.

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Originally posted by ripped and also there are things like personal tastes, musical backgrounds and differences in perception that's why discussing these things is like talking about eternity, there is no universal approach, everything's subjective and all that

god do you know who System-J is? i think i remember a quote by oakenfold once.

"that system-j is a true legend, he once critiqued two of my tracks at the same time"

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Originally posted by MSZ god do you know who System-J is? i think i remember a quote by oakenfold once. "that system-j is a true legend, he once critiqued two of my tracks at the same time"

This

Re: photek - glamourama [solaris

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Originally posted by MSZ hey, could anyone recommend some similar track to this one, i peeled this off a really nice album from 2000, which i like a lot. its a very deep tech, garagy type of track, that sounds kind of triggered and has atmosphere in some ways. let me know, its one of my favorite house tracks

you guys notice that this track sounds like a prototype for today's sound? (that particular combination of big kicks, noise sweeps, and spaciousness.)

don't really have time at the moment, but i'll be able to post a few similar tracks later on.

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Originally posted by ripped and also there are things like personal tastes, musical backgrounds and differences in perception that's why discussing these things is like talking about eternity, there is no universal approach, everything's subjective and all that

I don't need a universal approach. I asked you a question, and you replied with the classic "It's just opinion, man". I want you to put your opinion into words, so we can have a discussion. If I don't like the album, posting more tracks I've already heard from the same album isn't going to enlighten me, is it?

if you don't like the album, what's the point of enlightening you, then

that "just my opinion" is the most relevant factor, I checked your opinion about Terminus, that's it. I really don't need to convince anyone

well, only if you want to be convinced

I don't know, but you tried it anyway. Although generally I am interested when I have a total disconnect with how someone else hears music.

I know, Photek is not for everybody

@ripped - accept the duel from system-j

this particular album Photek did some stuff he has never done before, under any alias i know of. can't say i like it that much, especially compared to his older releases, but maybe you can say what in the music really makes it shine for you, what made you get into it.

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Originally posted by pozz can't say i like it that much, especially compared to his older releases

Me too. I remember I tried listening to his whole discography in a couple of occasions, but just one and only release truly stuck with me - Modus Operandi. Probably because it resembles a lot in atmosphere early 90s UK techno from labels such as B12, ART and New Electronica. And of course, the programming is just otherworldy and completely different from anything I've heard in drum & bass before and after.

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Originally posted by pozz but maybe you can say what in the music really makes it shine for you, what made you get into it.

of course I can, but I won't

what you want is an indepth technical analysis
and an answer to a question "How can this album be considered not boring, it's so simplistic" which can't be answered in that way. And
because you will not be able to feel what I feel when I listen to it then there is no point. You will simply keep pushing your own ideas and it will never stop. I don't want to convince anyone in relation to this album. It's just too personal. That's it, it's all about the feeling.

If we were speaking about any other LP/EP that is not on the list of my personal all-time favorites (which includes Solaris, of course) then I would be more enthusiastic.

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Originally posted by MSZ there is some awesome quality on that album, and photek is a beast. his best track though for me, comes from an EP, i dont think any of you will say this track is bad, its really amazing and one of my top tracks spanning genres. Photek - T-Raenon 1996, Op-ART [OP1] http://www.discogs.com/release/7449

I still can't decide if I like Original or Version the most. Probably Version though.

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Originally posted by rawbound I still can't decide if I like Original or Version the most. Probably Version though.

its rather inspiring to see the same artist make such very high quality tracks of different genre.

Have to post this track. Still doing amazing things in 2011.

lovely track imo adam.

ttp://www.discogs.com/artist/Soulphiction

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay http://www.discogs.com/artist/Soulphiction

will be digging through his work, found 2 tracks that interest me a lot. was hoping you or tranny would chime in. thanks.

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