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For sure you'd need a team of experienced people putting the actual parties together - with everyone else simply suggesting ideas for bookings and offering the financial backing to make it happen. Whether it's a good idea or not wouldn't really matter since there would be no risk involved if enough people got behind a guy to bring him.

Way I see it it would be more of an ongoing thing, with people voting behind guys they'd like to see come. Once a name got enough support on votes the actual finances would need to come in from those people, and then finally the booking. Not exactly a simple idea I know, but would be interesting..

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Originally posted by BradMiller For sure you'd need a team of experienced people putting the actual parties together - with everyone else simply suggesting ideas for bookings and offering the financial backing to make it happen. Whether it's a good idea or not wouldn't really matter since there would be no risk involved if enough people got behind a guy to bring him. Way I see it it would be more of an ongoing thing, with people voting behind guys they'd like to see come. Once a name got enough support on votes the actual finances would need to come in from those people, and then finally the booking. Not exactly a simple idea I know, but would be interesting..

If we actually decided to do anything of the sort, I'd be game. Needs some commitment though. I haven't done shows in a while but I have some experience.

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Originally posted by BradMiller For sure you'd need a team of experienced people putting the actual parties together - with everyone else simply suggesting ideas for bookings and offering the financial backing to make it happen. Whether it's a good idea or not wouldn't really matter since there would be no risk involved if enough people got behind a guy to bring him. Way I see it it would be more of an ongoing thing, with people voting behind guys they'd like to see come. Once a name got enough support on votes the actual finances would need to come in from those people, and then finally the booking. Not exactly a simple idea I know, but would be interesting..

You should have to buy shares in the collective first to get a vote, else you get the derps who make a lot of noise but never pay up. I mean, you can't vote in normal shareholder meetings without owning the stock in the first place, right? And if you want your opinion to have more clout, you have to own more shares. Money talks.

Could also think of it as union dues since you'd have to keep an ongoing fund (maybe semi-annual or something?).

Well this is a great idea, and someone needs to get on it fast before some overachiever reads this and starts a website to facilitate these types of transactions ala ebay or something along those lines and steals the thunder haha

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Originally posted by Lufelia You should have to buy shares in the collective first to get a vote, else you get the derps who make a lot of noise but never pay up. I mean, you can't vote in normal shareholder meetings without owning the stock in the first place, right? And if you want your opinion to have more clout, you have to own more shares. Money talks. Could also think of it as union dues since you'd have to keep an ongoing fund (maybe semi-annual or something?).

Like that idea - would be really cool if everyone just paid a membership fee then voted on who to bring based on the total resources available. Plus, in theory we could always keep the parties for members and cut out the flyer and promoting costs completely (and just charge a bit more for walk-ups). I worry that people might not want to put in money without being guaranteed to see someone specific, but I do like the idea that it would kind of force us all to trust each others taste and listen to new things. Kind of like a book club for music

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Originally posted by euphoria Well this is a great idea, and someone needs to get on it fast before some overachiever reads this and starts a website to facilitate these types of transactions ala ebay or something along those lines and steals the thunder haha

Hell if we can get enough people on-board I'd love to see it happen. Figure without any advertising costs it would take atleast $1,500 or so to book someone like J00F (on a weeknight?) - $200 for hotel and transportation, $300 for a flight, maybe $700 booking fee, $200 for a cashier, and $100 misc. At that level, we'd need 50 people willing to put up $30 each or 100 at $15. Think it's possible?

in on collective TA talent bookings for 2012

John (JOOF) has seen this post and is up for supporting your quest.

Things have certainly gone a tad commercial in the US hence why John had been heading to other territories that understand and support him musically. He has a close connection to NY due to his residency at Arc many years ago and is keen to support you guys.
We need more guys like you.

email darren at: [email protected] for any questions

lets make this happen!

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Originally posted by J00F Records John (JOOF) has seen this post and is up for supporting your quest. Things have certainly gone a tad commercial in the US hence why John had been heading to other territories that understand and support him musically. He has a close connection to NY due to his residency at Arc many years ago and is keen to support you guys. We need more guys like you. email darren at: [email protected] for any questions lets make this happen!

Talk about true fucking trance spirit. Let's get this GOING.

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Originally posted by BradMiller Like that idea - would be really cool if everyone just paid a membership fee then voted on who to bring based on the total resources available. Plus, in theory we could always keep the parties for members and cut out the flyer and promoting costs completely (and just charge a bit more for walk-ups). I worry that people might not want to put in money without being guaranteed to see someone specific, but I do like the idea that it would kind of force us all to trust each others taste and listen to new things. Kind of like a book club for music Hell if we can get enough people on-board I'd love to see it happen. Figure without any advertising costs it would take atleast $1,500 or so to book someone like J00F (on a weeknight?) - $200 for hotel and transportation, $300 for a flight, maybe $700 booking fee, $200 for a cashier, and $100 misc. At that level, we'd need 50 people willing to put up $30 each or 100 at $15. Think it's possible?

50 tickets at 30 bucks each SHOULDN'T be hard. Keyword is -shouldn't-, but I have high hopes. I'd even be willing to donate a bit more "investment", assuming if the show DOES pay off I'd get it back. If it doesn't... well... oh well!



We need a place, I have no connections there. Zee has RVL but I think a name like J00F would need a bigger place, just because I doubt you can get enough people to cover the costs into RVL. Is Santo's an option still, Brad?

Also, I, as well as others on here I'm sure, would also be willing to donate my DJing (opener or closer) for free. That saves a few hundred bucks as well for each slot.

J00F is a favorite at my shows in SD. We love having him here !

Saweeet, would be great to see something like this happen Before we get ahead of ourselves though I think we need to remember that it would be best to start something very small and build it very slowly. A Friday or Saturday night would be very possible at RVL / Stay / National Underground for a minimal bar guarantee, but anywhere like Santos or Sullivan Room and you're dealing with a 5k bar guarantee which would require atleast 300 people. A Thursday to start would be much safer IMO since they usually don't have as high (or any) guarantees those nights, and we might actually be able to get a better deal on artist prices as well. I've got contacts at all the venues above and can help a bit in that area, but what we'd really need is a group of people to organize and run the events - any takers?

I would like to be on the event team, that's for sure.

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Originally posted by Sedna I would like to be on the event team, that's for sure.

Saweet did you want to go ahead and take the lead on the project from here? I can help out with venue leads and general info etc.. but I'm afraid that's all I'd really have time for at the moment.

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Originally posted by BradMiller Saweet did you want to go ahead and take the lead on the project from here? I can help out with venue leads and general info etc.. but I'm afraid that's all I'd really have time for at the moment.

I sent you a message about it. In the interest of the prosperity of our new young promotion company, I'd say we should have a team. If Zee is up for it, I'd love to work with her. Anyone else who is willing to volunteer their efforts, please say something!

I personally don't care if I ever see a dime of profit; I just want to see the true EDM scene prosper.

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Originally posted by Sedna I sent you a message about it. In the interest of the prosperity of our new young promotion company, I'd say we should have a team. If Zee is up for it, I'd love to work with her. Anyone else who is willing to volunteer their efforts, please say something! I personally don't care if I ever see a dime of profit; I just want to see the true EDM scene prosper.

Oh trust me nobody makes money - you just don't want to lose it lol The hardest part of this I think will really be figuring out a way to organize a member / payment process and to get people to commit to it in advance. Throwing the shows should be relatively easy if we can figure that part out - and on that end the more suggestions from everyone the better.

Yea, I can help. I can also get RVL pretty much anytime I want (with enough advanced notice) so if that's the venue you want to use just let me know

Come by Friday and we can chat more about this in person.

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Originally posted by euphoria Yea, I can help. I can also get RVL pretty much anytime I want (with enough advanced notice) so if that's the venue you want to use just let me know Come by Friday and we can chat more about this in person.

I'm most likely going to be there Friday, so that sounds good.

Count me in if you need any help Trance is hardly my thing nowadays but I'm willing to contribute to the collective effort.

NYTA Collective talent booking/brainstorm

well, the idea got thrown around in the 'message to promoters thread' about booking j00f but i figure it's a good idea to get a real thread based on the concept that started there going.

on paper the concept is pretty simple: get a group of people willing to pool together the money to book some artists. so i guess it all starts here. before anyone can take this idea any further, we need to know who will realistically participate.

if we were able to get a membership number of ~50 people, we could all pitch in ~30 for a party that costs 1500 (travel, lodging, advertisement, whatever miscellaneous expenses). or, having a reoccurring membership fee where all the finances are pooled into one useable fund. obviously with those figures we're not talking about booking Skrillex for the next meadowlands show. this isn't about competing with the major promoters here in the city or becoming the next big NYC booking agency.

in my own personal opinion, i think if there were enough people legitimately interested in doing something like this, the best bet would to be a test run where the costs are split among the members and then afterwards figuring out the next steps. it would more than likely need to spread beyond the TA forums and hopefully we all know a handful of people who would also be down to pool some money to get a variety of talent in new york.

if i had to imagine HOW this would work, here's the layout I have running through my head:

1. Members join up and agree to participate by paying their share in future parties
2. Members submit potential booking ideas to be consolidated into a singular poll for everybody in the group to vote on
3. Top voted talents are then contacted, and estimated costs are received
4. Based on estimated costs and # of members, the most realistic talent is chosen and members pool costs together

lets hear your thoughts, and speak up if you'd be down for something like this

hai guys. sorry to thread jack but i thought a thread w/ a more appropriate title would gather some more attn to this idea of collective talent booking: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...1&forumid=26&s=

Don't people pay their share by paying cover??

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Originally posted by Stassi Don't people pay their share by paying cover??

this is for people who want a say in who they're seeing and want to participate in a community effort to bring a variety of talent to nyc.

Also, collecting money ahead of time ensures there are actually the funds and the interest to book DJs. Relying on covers is risky. I think mitigating risk (to promoters) was one of the reasons this idea came up in the first place.

I can't organize or make decisions for shit, just tell me where to throw my wads of cash* around.


*$1 bills

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Originally posted by Lufelia Also, collecting money ahead of time ensures there are actually the funds and the interest to book DJs. Relying on covers is risky. I think mitigating risk (to promoters) was one of the reasons this idea came up in the first place. I can't organize or make decisions for shit, just tell me where to throw my wads of cash* around. *$1 bills

not to mention, if done properly a huge chunk of the networking would be done in advance. i'm sure anyone who's investing in it would want to spread the word as much as possible.

as for the organization of these efforts, i'm sure once the interest is generated and we have a set number of people willing to participate that getting it together wouldn't be too hard. so long as everyone fully understands the concept and doesn't flake.

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Originally posted by Excess not to mention, if done properly a huge chunk of the networking would be done in advance. i'm sure anyone who's investing in it would want to spread the word as much as possible.

i like your idea of having a plan, but i dont agree with this statement

you said previously that if only a group of say 50/100 members were willing to chip in for this party cause they are devoted and interested in seeing a dj, what makes you think that anyone off the street would wanna come see j00f just cause it's your party?
not to knock the guy but j00f's fan base in nyc isent gonna be much more than 100 i can tell you that much

overall tho if say 100 to 150 TA heads are willing to throw in and make a party happen then it will be a good time, cause everyone there would be there for the same reason...TO HEAR GOOD MUSIC

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Originally posted by AY STAR i like your idea of having a plan, but i dont agree with this statement you said previously that if only a group of say 50/100 members were willing to chip in for this party cause they are devoted and interested in seeing a dj, what makes you think that anyone off the street would wanna come see j00f just cause it's your party? not to knock the guy but j00f's fan base in nyc isent gonna be much more than 100 i can tell you that much overall tho if say 100 to 150 TA heads are willing to throw in and make a party happen then it will be a good time, cause everyone there would be there for the same reason...TO HEAR GOOD MUSIC

never said that anyone off the street would come. my statement was more towards the idea that those members would have friends they could pitch the party to. besides, who said it had to be j00f? obviously, this isn't geared towards one artist or genre. it would be up to everyone to vote consistently on who we'd be bringing.

say it ends up being Arnej we try to bring to the city and we have 50 members. bet you a night like that would spread relatively easily on its own from members giving info out to friends etc., and i'm sure we'd have a few dedicated members who would spread flyers and whatever else.

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