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Re: Re: REVIEW: Hardwell @ Playhouse... because I like to shoot myself in the foot.

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Originally posted by omega1n 12. Delerium feat. Sarah McLachland � Silence (W&W vs Jonas Stenberg Remix) [White Label]

Interesting thing though... on FB my review got a lot of agreement...

for some reason TA is an odd platform...

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Originally posted by Junior Chavez His productions are INCREDIBLE... and unless you produce music you wouldn't know the degree of difficulty it takes to accomplish the level of quality he has with the tracks he's made. With such amazing talent... yes I expected a lot more... but... Sounds like I am ridiculous then.

Dude...





I don't know you can expect a guy who makes stuff like this to play non-cheesy sets. He co produces with tiesto for crying out loud.

He makes lowest common denominator pop-electro cheese. It's not a knock on his skills as a producer, though. Some of the most gifted producers in the world spend all their time working with Katy Perry and Britney Spears. It takes an incredible amount of work and talent to make this stuff and that's OK. The problem comes from expecting a guy who is known for making cheesy pop to play something other than cheesy pop. You wouldn't expect Timbaland to drop a deep house DJ set, so why expect that from Hardwell?

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Originally posted by Sadface Dude... I don't know you can expect a guy who makes stuff like this to play non-cheesy sets. He co produces with tiesto for crying out loud. He makes lowest common denominator pop-electro cheese. It's not a knock on his skills as a producer, though. Some of the most gifted producers in the world spend all their time working with Katy Perry and Britney Spears. It takes an incredible amount of work and talent to make this stuff and that's OK. The problem comes from expecting a guy who is known for making cheesy pop to play something other than cheesy pop. You wouldn't expect Timbaland to drop a deep house DJ set, so why expect that from Hardwell?

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I'm not real knowledgeable about Hardwell but i had thought he was along the same lines as Chuckie/Afrojack musically... so what you heard on Monday to me seems exactly what I would have expected.

What are these incredible productions he's done so I know? (not trying to be a smart-ass..i truly don't know what tracks/remixes he made his name with).

If you disagree, you disagree. No worries.

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Originally posted by Cool1g +1 I'm not real knowledgeable about Hardwell but i had thought he was along the same lines as Chuckie/Afrojack musically... so what you heard on Monday to me seems exactly what I would have expected. What are these incredible productions he's done so I know? (not trying to be a smart-ass..i truly don't know what tracks/remixes he made his name with).

That's exactly how I feel. If an artist/DJ is getting his productions played on mainstream clubs or by any of the mainstream DJ's such as Guetta, Tiesto, Swedish House Mafia, I wouldn't expect some forward thinking from them. Hardwell is pretty mainstream IMO.

I know jesse, but that's what we need! More forward thinking. You going to hernan?

I know we need that. Unfortunately the new wave of DJ's mostly caters to the masses which have a very narrow attention span and mostly want only familiar music.

If Hardwell would've started getting all Hernan on his crowd that used to the harder sound he would've cleared the dance floor. As a business man, that's a bad move. Remember, when DJ's blow up that big they are no longer just a "DJ." They become a business and people start depending on them to feed their families. If he starts taking big risks like that, than he could loose his crowd quick.

I wasn't there, but what I do when I play unknown tracks is that I follow them by a known track. That way I don't loose the crowd. He should've done that. But who knows what went through his mind. Maybe he was playing for the girls, which most mainstream DJ's do.

BTW, I doubt I'll go to Hernan. I wanna go but I'm booked that night and I finish at 2am.

i know where forward thinking music can be found every Friday hehe

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Originally posted by alan i know where forward thinking music can be found every Friday hehe

At Control!!!!

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Originally posted by DjWoody At Control!!!!

i meant afterhours at los globos

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Originally posted by alan i meant afterhours at los globos

Ooops, my bad! I'm so out of the loop on forward thinking music.

my review from that night

I was there that night and the place was extremely packed - but what do you expect a club like Playhouse to do? Turn down money? It's a business.

Onto Hardwell's set, he can't please everyone. I feel he plays to what the crowd likes and unfortunately to some, the majority of the people there are not diehard EDM fans (it's in the heart of Hollywood at PLAYHOUSE). I think it's actually pretty cool that he played the tracks from Skrillex & Alesso - I think that's a way of showing respect and appreciation. May be lame to the hardcore fans that follow his every track but he definitely had a overall solid set that everyone appreciated for the most part.

If you want to hear his true sets where he plays more obscure songs - you'd probably have to go to a smaller city or an afterparty.


Here's my LINK to the review + a lot of pictures from that night. [

I spot one pretty big Hardwell fan in the front.

Re: my review from that night

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Originally posted by imp0rtedrice If you want to hear his true sets where he plays more obscure songs - you'd probably have to go to a smaller city or an afterparty.

exactly what my review said... lol. did you guys even read? lol.

Look, MNS used to be underground and all about good music... not hippity-hoppety/r&b mashup garbage.

If I can go through 3,500 songs that were released in the past month or two... he should be able to do the same... he does this full time...

(what he should be doing... is going through the record pools he's in and blowing our minds with good gems that no one's ever heard.)

(and I'm sorry... playing the same track within 30 minutes because another dj shows up... FAIL)

Re: Re: my review from that night

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Originally posted by Junior Chavez exactly what my review said... lol. did you guys even read? lol.

I wasn't directly speaking and only speaking to you, man. Get over yourself.

But referring to your reply, you're right about MNS use to being underground. I went there when it was around the corner and in a crappy venue - what was venue called? National?

But times have changes - EDM isn't underground anymore unless you want to check out the genres that the bros have not discovered yet or will never get into. I mean you just have to take it for what it is. I feel it's a pretty natural progression for certain DJs to start playing more of that hiphop/top 40/whatever you call it due to all the collaborations these days.

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Originally posted by imp0rtedrice I wasn't directly speaking and only speaking to you, man. Get over yourself. But referring to your reply, you're right about MNS use to being underground. I went there when it was around the corner and in a crappy venue - what was venue called? National? But times have changes - EDM isn't underground anymore unless you want to check out the genres that the bros have not discovered yet or will never get into. I mean you just have to take it for what it is. I feel it's a pretty natural progression for certain DJs to start playing more of that hiphop/top 40/whatever you call it due to all the collaborations these days.

agreed that times have changed. MNS used to be my spot back at National and Las Palmas and since there move to Playhouse its definitely gotten more commercialized. I don't hate MNS but just prefer not to attend unless I'm there to see some good friends. Freddy Be (one of the founders of MNS) has definitely paid his dues doing parties that cater to the "underground customer" but in the end, the mans gotta pay rent This tends to happen to a lot of promoters (not all promoters) that have been doing it for years.

I remember seeing Digweed at MNS!!! That was such an awesome party, no stage bullshit, no special lighting, no special sound, just some turntables, a mixer, and Digweed playing on crowd level against the wall. We all crowded around him.

Re: Re: Re: Re: my review from that night

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal agreed that times have changed. MNS used to be my spot back at National and Las Palmas and since there move to Playhouse its definitely gotten more commercialized. I don't hate MNS but just prefer not to attend unless I'm there to see some good friends. Freddy Be (one of the founders of MNS) has definitely paid his dues doing parties that cater to the "underground customer" but in the end, the mans gotta pay rent This tends to happen to a lot of promoters (not all promoters) that have been doing it for years.

For sure, tht man has definitely paid his dues. I still feel he's really out of place amongst that uber hollywood crowd - but he's really elevated his weekly nights to the next level. Being able to pack shows on a Monday night is no easy task!

Ha! I found these pictures on Flikr from John Digweed at Monday Night Social way back in 2005. You get 5 brownie points if you can spot a TA in there.

ahhh... i remember that night very well!! right after NYE right? The Tsunami benefit i think?? i don't know what TA you are referring to though.

sigh... those were the days.

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal i don't know what TA you are referring to though.

Ha! It's me holding the DJ Mag & the Sharpie! lol Someone actually took a picture of me holding it up. Such a groupie!

I met my fiance at MNS at Nacional in 2006. I think the only time ive been since they moved to playhouse was for Hernan Catteneo maybe two years ago, needless to say it had changed a bit.

I sure do get a ton of text msgs and emails from Freddy Be though. No matter how many times I opt out of the damn emails, I still get em

As for the comment about a DJs natural progession is to end up playing the house/hiphop/electro/top40....

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