Those percs that come in at 1:32 and later, first those hats and then that nice clap, really pick it up well. Good build after 3:50, too.
Then we get to the breakdown, where I find it really difficult to remain objective, because in years of listening I haven't yet heard a soundtrack-y, orchestral trance break that I like. They never seem to "gel" with the rest of the tune for me. And the same goes for when you add the woodwind-y sound back in after the beat drops. I just can't dig that, even though I found it a quite nice melodic trancer otherwise. Put it down to my personal quirks, I guess.
One thing I notice with a lot of your mixes is that the highs are especially loud. It was definitely not as bad here as it has been before, but it always makes me wonder if your monitoring setup is skewed toward the low frequencies or something, making you overcompensate. I wonder if anyone else hears this...
Posted by Richard Butler on Jan-05-2012 15:45:
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Originally posted by Vector A
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One thing I notice with a lot of your mixes is that the highs are especially loud. I wonder if anyone else hears this...
Yes I noticed this on your latest Kysora - the highs did seem very loud and sharp. I think you will make the listening more easy if you can tweak this mate.
Posted by Kysora on Jan-05-2012 15:46:
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Originally posted by Vector A
One thing I notice with a lot of your mixes is that the highs are especially loud. It was definitely not as bad here as it has been before, but it always makes me wonder if your monitoring setup is skewed toward the low frequencies or something, making you overcompensate. I wonder if anyone else hears this...
I produce on headphones, as good as K701's are I'm generally told my mixes are low on bass, heavy on the upper frequencies, and apparently that's pretty common for people producing without monitors. I've gotten a lot better at learning how to compensate but I've still got a long way to go, apparently
Thanks for being somewhat objective, I know those breakdowns are a love 'em or hate 'em type of thing so I can't blame you there. Appreciate it!
Posted by Vector A on Jan-05-2012 15:52:
I am a headphone producer, too. That's how things must be when you make music in the same room your girlfriend uses to study. Oh well.
Production quality is high here. It sounds like second bassline is related to the initial melody in some way, which is kind of cool. But the first bassline seems kind of pointless, both because it is less interesting than the second one and because you use it for just a minute before abandoning it. I dunno, I guess you do need something to fill up the low end during that part...
All in all the track is produced to a high quality but feels like it is missing something for me, but I am not sure what. Sorry to be so vague.
Sound quality seems fine here. Maybe the bass is a little "rumbly" and less defined than it could be, but it is hard to tell on headphones. For what it is worth, I do like the idea. I could imagine a bunch of short, repetitive, hypnotic layers being built on top of that low end for an old school style trance track.
Posted by Vector A on Jan-05-2012 20:05:
Good production quality. Maybe the mix is a little claustrophobic, no breathing room in there, but I guess maybe you want that in a peak time sort of tune. I have a problem with the melody after the break. Maybe it is just me, but it sounds rather cheesy and kind of reminds me of Mario Kart or like some bouncy Japanese dance pop for some reason. Sorry, just one man's impression...
I do think the sound itself (the one that plays the melody after the break) could turn into something pretty cool with some pitch bend and more reverb, but that would take things in a darker direction than what you are going for. Anyway, I would say you had me for the first half or so here, but kind of lost me after the break.
Posted by Vector A on Jan-05-2012 20:10:
Okay, we have passed the halfway mark now. Nine more review spots left for this round, if anyone else wants them.
Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-05-2012 21:20:
Lets see how much you can take this track a part lol - having lots of fun working on it and would like to see if you going to have a lot of fun listening to it????
Everything seems well-balanced, and all the sounds seem well-designed. But it seems like they do not meld together so well, especially the bassline. I don't mean this in terms of the mix, but in terms of whether they feel like part of a coherent melodic whole. As a result, listening to the track doesn't give me any idea about where it is going, or any feeling of a "story" (don't really like that term, but it is probably the closest to what I mean). It sounds nice but I find myself thinking, "Okay, what's going to happen next?" Maybe I would change my mind about this if I heard a longer clip, though.
Keep it up and I will have a listen to the finished product.
Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-05-2012 21:43:
Sorry, forgot to give you warning "you need to close your eyes before you click play button" lol - yeah, you/we definitely missing this build up part in this track, like intro to a book which set you up with idea or direction I will take to, anyway thank you for your review/opinion and the rest of the track is coming soon!
Sound like we are missing this "Soul" for this track yet?
Cheers man,
Darek
Posted by rulzz on Jan-05-2012 22:22:
cheers for feedback
Posted by mathieu on Jan-05-2012 22:28:
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Originally posted by Vector A
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This is very well done. I am a sucker for that kind of filtered whatsit that appears in some kinds of house. Gives me a real nostalgia trip for some reason.
I really dislike the vocals, but I am guessing those were in the original (I have never heard it). Bass is nice and beefy. That portamento synth works very well as the lead. Only criticism is that the percussion feels a bit empty in the high end. But maybe I am just going deaf!
you sir, need to go back to the dictionary, go look up music.
then, you need to go look up the origins of trance.
i bet you dont even know how to string 2 notes on a melody together, so cant really judge mine, can you now?
ps. jealousy is a bad demon to have...
Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-05-2012 22:46:
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Originally posted by mathieu
you sir, need to go back to the dictionary, go look up music.
then, you need to go look up the origins of trance.
i bet you dont even know how to string 2 notes on a melody together, so cant really judge mine, can you now?
ps. jealousy is a bad demon to have...
Don't get this to serious man, his is trying and an effort counts.
Yeah that comment about my bass line was kind of interesting (in my view) lol I used to play bass guitar and have some (a bit) of knowledge how bass line should seats in a track but again, this is his and only his opinion.
Cheers,
Darek
Posted by mathieu on Jan-05-2012 23:26:
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Don't get this to serious man, his is trying and an effort counts.
Yeah that comment about my bass line was kind of interesting (in my view) lol I uses to play bass guitar and have some (a bit) of knowledge how bass line should seats in a track but again, this is his and only his opinion.
Cheers,
Darek
Its a joke from the COR mate Posted by Vernon Wanderer on Jan-05-2012 23:55:
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Don't get this to serious man, his is trying and an effort counts.
Yeah that comment about my bass line was kind of interesting (in my view) lol I uses to play bass guitar and have some (a bit) of knowledge how bass line should seats in a track but again, this is his and only his opinion.
Sound quality seems fine here. Maybe the bass is a little "rumbly" and less defined than it could be, but it is hard to tell on headphones. For what it is worth, I do like the idea. I could imagine a bunch of short, repetitive, hypnotic layers being built on top of that low end for an old school style trance track.
Thanks for taking the time to have a go at it, appreciated!
I agree about the bassline part, the kick already got some makeup now. Your assumption about it being a oldschool-inspired acid trance track is correct. Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-06-2012 00:06:
Yeah, I'm not good in politics and don't play politics, I just want to produce damn music, anything else "I don't care" lol
Oh good old times !!!!
Cheers,
Darek
Posted by MSZ on Jan-06-2012 00:09:
the low end needed cuts, that part is fixed in the final version. not made for a club so its not really driving.
Posted by Vector A on Jan-06-2012 00:17:
quote:
Originally posted by mathieu
you sir, need to go back to the dictionary, go look up music.
then, you need to go look up the origins of trance.
i bet you dont even know how to string 2 notes on a melody together, so cant really judge mine, can you now?
ps. jealousy is a bad demon to have...
Posted by Vector A on Jan-06-2012 00:28:
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Originally posted by MSZ
That is one heck of a bass noise you have there. Definitely my favorite bass sound posted in this thread. For the track as a whole, no criticisms I can think of. A+.
By the way, do you still use Reason for all your stuff?
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