They weren't comparing Japan against the rest of the world they were comparing Japan against the US, where it does better in a lot of places.
Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jan-09-2012 00:49:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I notice they didn�t refer to japan�s massive national debt?
Because any sane person realizes that the idea of national debt is a non-issue for any country that plays a massive supporting role in actual physical trade. Sovereign debt only matters to the little guys who don't produce anything or scare anyone anyways (read Greece, Ireland, Spain).
The US and Japan can run up as much debt as we want, no one will ever call us on it as long as we pay back as little as we can (which we do). The rest is a giant fucking scam.
For a country like the US or Japan it'd be stupid not to run up our debt while we can and try and fix our issues so we can be even stronger in the future. The US fails to see that and the regressionist conservative libertarians are trying to weaken the US by saying we have to stop borrowing money. If we stop then our economy will falter even more and we will slip into a place where our deby actually matters.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2012 00:56:
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Because any sane person realizes that the idea of national debt is a non-issue for any country that plays a massive supporting role in actual physical trade. Sovereign debt only matters to the little guys who don't produce anything or scare anyone anyways (read Greece, Ireland, Spain).
God you talk some bullshit. You�re talking about growth, employment etc and government spending is irrelevant? Hahaha.
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
The US and Japan can run up as much debt as we want, no one will ever call us on it as long as we pay back as little as we can (which we do). The rest is a giant fucking scam.
Nonsense. The US and japan are no different to anyone else. When people stop buying bonds, then you�re in trouble.
Posted by Lira on Jan-09-2012 01:33:
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
They weren't comparing Japan against the rest of the world they were comparing Japan against the US, where it does better in a lot of places.
Even Brazil is probably doing better than the US (and Japan) under many circumstances!
Posted by stevebutabi on Jan-09-2012 01:49:
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Originally posted by Vector A
The "Who has bigger towers?" question is meaningless and silly (not least because Japan is basically forced to build upward due to lack of space). Otherwise good article, though.
Also the strong Yen in that chart isn't helping them out, from what I understand.
Posted by saluyamo on Jan-09-2012 01:53:
Maybe censoring their porn has a purpose after all
Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jan-09-2012 02:01:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
God you talk some bullshit. You�re talking about growth, employment etc and government spending is irrelevant? Hahaha.
Nonsense. The US and japan are no different to anyone else. When people stop buying bonds, then you�re in trouble.
And people are going to stop buying US or Japanese bonds when?
Like I said, as long as you provide something that the others require then they wont call in your debt. Yea interest payments keep going up, but its a pittance compared to what you get back.
The reason Greece can't ride on a wave of debt like the US and Japan can is because they don't provide jack shit. No one gives a fuck about Greece, they could drop off the face of the earth and little would be lost. Drop Japan or the US off the face of the earth and you have some major fucking issues since they actually provide quite a bit to the global economy.
As long as you pay the minimum interest payments no one gives a shit, and they'll keep giving you money. Thats why the US is in such a dangerous place right now. We have neglected our ability to maintain a strong enough domestic economy to continue doing that and there is a fear that we will soon be unable to even do that, and the libertarians want to make it so we can't do that. They are like year-0 communists in Cambodia.
There is no national debt crisis in Japanese politics, at least not on the scale of the US. They are smart enough to know that too many other economies depend on them doing well.
Posted by Desiderata on Jan-09-2012 02:48:
Why didn't you go to school in Japan instead of your brother?
Serious question.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2012 03:24:
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
And people are going to stop buying US or Japanese bonds when?
I don�t know when, if I did im sure I could use that information to make some money. But in no way would I conflate my ignorance with the market�s tolerance for infinite bond sales.
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Like I said, as long as you provide something that the others require then they wont call in your debt.
You seem to have a bit of confusion on what bonds are. There is no �calling� anyone. Nations/bond holders can no more call in the debts of other nations anymore than my bank can call me up and demand my house loan back immediately. Bonds are bought with a finite time limit, when they expire.
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Yea interest payments keep going up, but its a pittance compared to what you get back.
I have no idea what you�re attempting to say here.
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
The reason Greece can't ride on a wave of debt like the US and Japan can is because they don't provide jack shit. No one gives a fuck about Greece, they could drop off the face of the earth and little would be lost.
Clearly you�re wrong otherwise there wouldn�t be such interest in preventing Greece default. Whether a country �provides� anything or not has no bearing on bonds.
Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jan-09-2012 03:29:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Clearly you�re wrong otherwise there wouldn�t be such interest in preventing Greece default. Whether a country �provides� anything or not has no bearing on bonds.
If they weren't part of that massive failure known as the Eurozone they wouldn't.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-09-2012 03:31:
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
If they weren't part of that massive failure known as the Eurozone they wouldn't.
You�re ignoring the exposure of US banks to European debt defaults.
Posted by tubularbills on Jan-09-2012 03:32:
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Originally posted by Lira
Even Brazil is probably doing better than the US (and Japan) under many circumstances!
you said you were playing in snow...in the summertime. that's probably not a good thing. just sayinPosted by pointPi on Jan-09-2012 14:10:
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Originally posted by Lira
No country is perfect.
Except, of course, for Sweden. Sweden is superior.
High youth unemployment, catastrophic integration policies, quasi-Nazis, awful educational system, zero-tolerance against drugs, zero-tolerance against prostitution, most manga is classified as child pornography, the railway infrastructure is a joke, ultra-conservative views on architecture, Swedish House Mafia...
Yup, that's the essences of a perfect country.
Posted by Meat187 on Jan-09-2012 14:17:
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Originally posted by pointPi
most manga is classified as child pornography
I see nothing wrong with that. Mangas suck.
Posted by pointPi on Jan-09-2012 14:21:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Game over.
Makes me think of this somehow...
Guess what game this is from.
Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-09-2012 15:00:
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Originally posted by pointPi
High youth unemployment, catastrophic integration policies, quasi-Nazis, awful educational system, zero-tolerance against drugs, zero-tolerance against prostitution, most manga is classified as child pornography, the railway infrastructure is a joke, ultra-conservative views on architecture, Swedish House Mafia...
Yup, that's the essences of a perfect country.
Let's not forget Ace Of Base. Posted by Lira on Jan-09-2012 15:07:
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Originally posted by pointPi
High youth unemployment, catastrophic integration policies, quasi-Nazis, awful educational system, zero-tolerance against drugs, zero-tolerance against prostitution, most manga is classified as child pornography, the railway infrastructure is a joke, ultra-conservative views on architecture, Swedish House Mafia...
Yup, that's the essences of a perfect country.
Hahaha, that's just an old jokePosted by david.michael on Jan-09-2012 15:13:
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Originally posted by pointPi
Makes me think of this somehow...
Guess what game this is from.
Bioshock!
Posted by -FSP- on Jan-09-2012 15:24:
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo more than makes up for Sweden.
Posted by UWM on Jan-09-2012 15:25:
Nou you should really just avoid any future attempts to offer any criticisms and / or solutions regarding economic issues.
Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jan-09-2012 17:53:
No.
Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jan-09-2012 17:55:
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Originally posted by Meat187
I see nothing wrong with that. Mangas suck.
It's a free speech issue not a manga sucks issue.
Posted by Lira on Jan-09-2012 18:04:
