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Posted by stewart.m on Jan-12-2012 02:33:

the same thing could be said for tv programs and adverts i've lost count the times either myself friends or family have said "i really like this song playing now on the tv who is it ".

And guess what the answer is fuck knows because very often the artist is not credited or showed to us after the advert is finished. i wonder how much money is lost there?


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-12-2012 02:41:

well the fact it is being use, money is being made. But a free podcast , which given the dj, is most likely illegal , promoting the dj but doing nothing for the actual producer who is not suing you because he is too busy trying to make a decent living. if this doesn't seem a little fucked, well fuck me.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jan-12-2012 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by stewart.m
the same thing could be said for tv programs and adverts i've lost count the times either myself friends or family have said "i really like this song playing now on the tv who is it ".

And guess what the answer is fuck knows because very often the artist is not credited or showed to us after the advert is finished. i wonder how much money is lost there?


That's a little different. The advertiser isn't advertising the artist. They're using a song to sell a product. Also, most times you can google that information. You can't really google "song between 30:30 and 35:50 on DJ NoName's November 17 Podcast."


Posted by stewart.m on Jan-12-2012 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
That's a little different. The advertiser isn't advertising the artist. They're using a song to sell a product. Also, most times you can google that information. You can't really google "song between 30:30 and 35:50 on DJ NoName's November 17 Podcast."
i know but not everybody has the net and most wont bother to hunt it down via google. and yes the artist will be paid something its true but you can still argue its money lost.


Posted by Richard Butler on Jan-12-2012 15:50:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik


producers should be aiming for larger revenue streams (e.g., iTunes) rather than relying on Beatport




I had a couple of releases on big labels and they automatically put em on itunes, no big deal and it means nothing anyway.

You touched on over saturation. Well that's the biggest barrier to consumers. Hell I got oversaturated trying to choose perfume in a store for my wife, too many choices (about 100). If I go to a supermarket I waste time as I get transfixed on say the oriental section wondering whether I should be buying all this stuff.

Overload leads to people being unable to buy and anyway do us as consumers know about many films comming out? There are hundreds per month now, and it's difficult to know what to watch. Music is 100 times more supplied.


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-12-2012 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I had a couple of releases on big labels and they automatically put em on itunes, no big deal and it means nothing anyway.


True, simply getting your track on iTunes alone might not do much for you, but there is much more potential sell large numbers compared to Beatport, if your track does well.

Also, getting back to the idea of glory hunts, this has been my experience:

Hot Babe: you have songs signed to labels?!!! No way, where can I buy them?
Me: Beatport
Hot Babe:

Versus:

Hot Babe: you have songs signed to labels?!!! No way, where can I buy them?
Me: iTunes
Hot Babe: Do you like my new thong?


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-12-2012 17:06:

hot babe was totally your mom. Its ok, i do that to.


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-12-2012 17:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
hot babe was totally your mom. Its ok, i do that to.


Actually, it was my wife, but, ya know.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-12-2012 17:17:

my bad, just something i would say regarding people interested in what i do. Change a few facts, story is pretty much accurate but with a little dramatic licence ,you come out a big swinging shot caller.


Posted by cryophonik on Jan-12-2012 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
my bad, just something i would say regarding people interested in what i do. Change a few facts, story is pretty much accurate but with a little dramatic licence ,you come out a big swinging shot caller.




In hindsight, I should've gone with this witty retort instead:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
hot babe was totally your mom. Its ok, i do that to.


You wear a thong?


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-12-2012 18:06:

on request. it all depends on what the client asks. Stroke the shaft, craddle the balls and swallow the gravy. Best line from tropic thunder. Well that and "survive".


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