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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest Maybe you guys are just so old and senile you've forgotten your past?

Nope. It was 20-some years ago, but I clearly remember opening the dbx box, reading the manual, fiddling with the knobs while I talked into the mic, and thinking to myself wow, that was easy. I think the internet is making today's kids stupid and lazy. Shit, they've got exponentially more resources readily available for learning than anybody could dream of even 10 years ago, but it seems like they refuse to take 20 minutes to figure out some of the simplest things on their own.

i only argue things i know. You want to talk about feminine hygiene, i wouldn't know a thing but the trick is that i wouldn't say anything. IF I did, ya I suppose i would be wrong about alot of things. When i talk, i talk about thinks i know. And i am wrong sometimes. Very rarely and i will admit it. My batting average is good enough that a few strikes isn't going to vex me. And when i am wrong, it is usually a small oversight.

It isn't some ego induced mania that tricks me into thinking i know everything. It is called learning. Take the average person on here, take the hours they've spent learning music, times that by 1000, thats probably somewhere closer to the time i've spent. And it is only natural that someone that has spend more time would tend to know more and given the fact i only argue things i know , why would i ever be wrong ? Unless i'm being a dick and arguing for the sake of arguing.

The fact that i am right is not some conspiracy, it is math coupled with good looks and the kind of knees that make nuns hot. or mums. whatever, fuck you

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest No one is perfect. For example Mad4Brad is incapable of thinking he is wrong about anything. ;-)

Maybe, but thing is though he usually is right (or at least I agree with what he says for better choice of words). People just get pissed off with him by the way he puts it across, which is fair enough but you should know him by now.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney You use an eq or a compressor because you have a reason for it. So the parameters are already decided before you even add it.

I doubt the rank "noobs" have much in mind beyond "must use compressor, makes track louder!" And then they just flip through the presets and pick the most brickwalled one.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i only argue things i know. You want to talk about feminine hygiene, i wouldn't know a thing but the trick is that i wouldn't say anything. IF I did, ya I suppose i would be wrong about alot of things. When i talk, i talk about thinks i know. And i am wrong sometimes. Very rarely and i will admit it. My batting average is good enough that a few strikes isn't going to vex me. And when i am wrong, it is usually a small oversight. It isn't some ego induced mania that tricks me into thinking i know everything. It is called learning. Take the average person on here, take the hours they've spent learning music, times that by 1000, thats probably somewhere closer to the time i've spent. And it is only natural that someone that has spend more time would tend to know more and given the fact i only argue things i know , why would i ever be wrong ? Unless i'm being a dick and arguing for the sake of arguing. The fact that i am right is not some conspiracy, it is math coupled with good looks and the kind of knees that make nuns hot. or mums. whatever, fuck you

Ha, sorry I was kidding. Anyways, you should at least be somewhat realistic in so much as other people are going to approach music differently than you. Now, certainly their approach may not be a good approach, but that's what they're going to do. That was my entire point. Hopefully you can see that at least.

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest Hopefully you can see that at least.

now your not being realistic

i get schooled every day. I work with people that know more than i do so i don't walk around with a tiara , sorry a figurative one , I sometimes wear actual tiaras, but i don't see it as me knowing alot. I see it more as others not knowing anything. So in the grand scheme of thing, i would say I am actually more aware of my irrelevance than most. But that is the reason I tend to learn so much. Basically you are mostly all little children. Good looking kids with soft skin and supple cheeks that you just want to kiss and hold. And i'm like a 21 year old pedophile. I know more obviously, but still have much to learn. And i find you guys hot. So i hang around really for sexual gratification. That Eddie is so my shit. I would totally rock his world. It isn't about right or wrong. It is about breaking social taboos

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i get schooled every day. I work with people that know more than i do so i don't walk around with a tiara , sorry a figurative one , I sometimes wear actual tiaras, but i don't see it as me knowing alot. I see it more as others not knowing anything. So in the grand scheme of thing, i would say I am actually more aware of my irrelevance than most. But that is the reason I tend to learn so much. Basically you are mostly all little children. Good looking kids with soft skin and supple cheeks that you just want to kiss and hold. And i'm like a 21 year old pedophile. I know more obviously, but still have much to learn. And i find you guys hot. So i hang around really for sexual gratification. That Eddie is so my shit. I would totally rock his world.

see, that's more like it!

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i get schooled every day. I work with people that know more than i do so i don't walk around with a tiara , sorry a figurative one , I sometimes wear actual tiaras, but i don't see it as me knowing alot. I see it more as others not knowing anything. So in the grand scheme of thing, i would say I am actually more aware of my irrelevance than most. But that is the reason I tend to learn so much. Basically you are mostly all little children. Good looking kids with soft skin and supple cheeks that you just want to kiss and hold. And i'm like a 21 year old pedophile. I know more obviously, but still have much to learn. And i find you guys hot. So i hang around really for sexual gratification. That Eddie is so my shit. I would totally rock his world. It isn't about right or wrong. It is about breaking social taboos

I feel all tingly... I telling on you!

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i get schooled every day. I work with people that know more than i do so i don't walk around with a tiara , sorry a figurative one , I sometimes wear actual tiaras, but i don't see it as me knowing alot. I see it more as others not knowing anything. So in the grand scheme of thing, i would say I am actually more aware of my irrelevance than most. But that is the reason I tend to learn so much. Basically you are mostly all little children. Good looking kids with soft skin and supple cheeks that you just want to kiss and hold. And i'm like a 21 year old pedophile. I know more obviously, but still have much to learn. And i find you guys hot. So i hang around really for sexual gratification. That Eddie is so my shit. I would totally rock his world. It isn't about right or wrong. It is about breaking social taboos

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest No one is perfect. For example Mad4Brad is incapable of thinking he is wrong about anything. ;-)

I'm sure you just said this because you needed a release, but the ratio of these attacks have exceeded the threshold and there's really not much to gain from it. I think you guys should makeup.

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Originally posted by cryophonik I'm sure you just said this because you needed a release, but the ratio of these attacks have exceeded the threshold and there's really not much to gain from it. I think you guys should makeup.

They started pretty fast and while they've hit a brick wall, I'm not sure people are beyond a slow release of their grievances.

and the Pulitzer for best short story / witticism goes to Cryophonic.

I wish i could write.And Eddie just knocked it out of the park. Writing is so much cooler than music. Like , writing is the only art where doing meth is like not really a bad thing. He's a writer. Musicians are just frustrated writers that can't actually put into words what they want to say.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney and the Pulitzer for best short story / witticism goes to Cryophonic. I wish i could write.And Eddie just knocked it out of the park. Writing is so much cooler than music. Like , writing is the only art where doing meth is like not really a bad thing. He's a writer. Musicians are just frustrated writers that can't actually put into words what they want to say.

Switch some stuff around and that's the way I feel about music.

its him.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker They started pretty fast and while they've hit a brick wall, I'm not sure people are beyond a slow release of their grievances.

Now, they just need to stop being such dBs.

I like how you guys never post topical comments. It is, of course, due to the fact that you have nothing substantial to contribute.

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest I like how you guys never post topical comments. It is, of course, due to the fact that you have nothing substantial to contribute.

What's topical? Should we be gushing about Armin or Tiesto? What are you trying to say, here? Do you not like us? Are we not good enough for you? Too old? Too straight? Are we too married to the old traditions and all the bad habits that came along with them? Do you see us has-beens; throwbacks from a bygone era; the old in "good old boys?" What in the f@ck are you trying to say, buddy? You don't think we're cool enough for you? Don't think we're up to the current trends and modern tastes of today's music making phenoms? Do you see us as washouts? As failures? What? What the f#ck do you mean when you say we don't post anything 'topical?'

check out cryo's post below

I'm taking that as a signal that you don't really like us. Of course your manhood is so transient that you just post a gif of Speedy GonDeadmau5 and we're supposed to infer a giant, "FUCK YOU" from that. Well, I'm not going bend my knee to suit your ideas about what is or isn't optical!

check out cryo's post below

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edit: gif deleted since it was distracting. look at cryo's comment below

OK, here is a comparison of several compressors all slammed pretty hard using the same settings on a drum loop (unquantized MIDI created by a professional drummer triggering the Superior Drummer2 NY Hit Factory samples). No, I did not try to match the levels, nor did I try to get the same amount of gain reduction because I wanted to demonstrate the differences in gain reduction and sound between them at the same levels. The release scales varied on some comps, so I did try to get them all to be in the same ballpark.

Settings:

Attack: very short (0.2-0.5 mS, depending on the minimum allowable value)
Threshold: -18dB
Ratio: 20:1
Release: moderate (~350)
Makeup: 0dB (i.e., none applied)

http://www.cryophonik.com/files/cry...ressor_test.wav

The first loop is the raw (uncompressed sample)

The remaining loops are processed by (not in this order):

Drawmer DL241
Waves Rennaissance Channel (compressor module only)
FabFilter Pro-C
Sonitus Compressor (bundled with Sonar X1)
Waves C-1
Waves SSL 4000G (compressor module only)
Sonar X1's Pro Channel track compressor

There are definitely differences. Which one's which? Raphie - I'm counting on you to ID the Drawmer - it's the only hardware compressor in the bunch.

Thanks for doing that. I don't personally use acoustic drum sounds, but they definitely all sounded different to me. The attacks sounded different, the amount they sounded compressed sounded different and I think the release was the biggest difference.

I thought the best sounding ones were 1. the third one (third one after the first uncompressed one so fourth one out of all of them) and the 2. fifth one (i.e. the sixth one out of them all).

I have no idea which one is which though.

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