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^It really doesn't matter where our oil comes from. If something disrupts the global supply of oil, the price will go up for everyone in the world.

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Originally posted by trojans14 ^It really doesn't matter where our oil comes from. If something disrupts the global supply of oil, the price will go up for everyone in the world.

+1

Just because we do not buy our oil from them, others do. When other countries cannot buy Iranian oil, then those countries buy it from our suppliers. Also, since 20% of the world's oil goes through the Strait of Hormuz, the threat of closure alone drives up prices as well.

*edit* - forgot to mention that Iran will not close the strait. The U.S. has stated that the closure will be considered an act of war. They will not start a war over that.

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Originally posted by fantasyexctasy They still have the hormone in the cows from birth as the mom's hormones transfer over in the umbilical cord during pregnancy. They say organic, but it just means the food they eat has no synthetic pesticides. They still use pesticides (especially a carcinogen like argon) on anything that says organic on the label, it's one of the biggest misleading labels ever. They've tried to sue many times to have organic labels that use organic pesticides to put on their labels that they use pesticides still, but our good old friends at Monsanto fought this and won. Sickening

True! But if you look at every nitty gritty detail of food ingredients, you will find something of concern in pretty much every single food out there.

Rice milk , for example, has far fewer nutrients and protein than does milk that comes from animals. Also, it has been shown to contain high levels of arsenic, which can be deadly if consumed in large amounts, which is why parents are advised not to serve rice milk to kids under 4 years of age.

Soy milk too has been linked with infertility in men and cancer. The former danger, even if a myth, was enough for me to switch back to cows milk.

Honestly, I think all these side effects are only valid if you consume a particular product in excessive amount, so moderation is really the key. Personally, I have only been drinking organic 1% or 2% milk for the past few years and only use it in cereal or in my coffee. My cheese consumption is where I needed to cut down and recently, I've reduced my cheese intake too.

CA sales tax on GAS should be cut in half to at least help some in the meantime..

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Originally posted by trojans14 ^It really doesn't matter where our oil comes from. If something disrupts the global supply of oil, the price will go up for everyone in the world.

True but people have this misconception that somehow it's always a problem in middle east that's the cause of gas prices to soar. In reality, it's Venezuela who are the ones that recently cut back on production causing the price to soar. The speculators betting on this whole Iran fiasco should blame our government and Israel for the tension. Iran isn't going to nuke anyone, especially with about ten thousand war ships stationed in the Indian Ocean. It's just like Iraq all over again

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Originally posted by LiquidX CA sales tax on GAS should be cut in half to at least help some in the meantime..

CA is broke as a joke. Not happening.

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Originally posted by LiquidX CA sales tax on GAS should be cut in half to at least help some in the meantime..

You'll only save like 5 dollars a fill, the state could use the cash much more than any individual

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Originally posted by raveed True! But if you look at every nitty gritty detail of food ingredients, you will find something of concern in pretty much every single food out there.

This is true, once you get all into it, EVERYTHING is Contaminated and basically we are pretty much screwed. The industrial technological revolution has destroyed our ecosystem of healthy food.

Basically do the best job we can and pray it all works out. If not, we are all gonna die anyways, right?

I remember a few years back I got super health conscious and I always take things to the extreme. I came to the conclusion, unless we move to some remote island and build a hermetically sealed bubble, then clean the whole environment inside it and start growing your own stuff. There is no way to escape all this cancer causing non-sense.

How much radiation is floating around just from Fukishima, nevermind the 1000 nuclear tests that were done in Nevada

wow, thats really bad. Here is NY it was like 3.93 last time I filled up at Hess and 2 weeks ago it was at 3.85 so it only went up a little.

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Originally posted by RobertStern The industrial technological revolution has destroyed our ecosystem of healthy food.

Totally true.

Food Inc, among many documentaries opened my eyes to this...

Thank God I only drive 12 mi/day when I go to work 4 days/wk.

although I wouldn't disagree that the industrial revolution and population growth has caused a disruption in our food, but I think scientific advancements have also been able to identify many more things wrong with our diets that were previously simply unknown

If you think about what people ate 200, or even 500 to 1000 years ago, would you say that it was THAT much more healthy for you? Granted there are lazy careless people eating fast food every day, but thats a small percentage in terms of 6+ billion people

People are living longer than ever before, perhaps we are just able to identify problems like colon cancer or other health problems much more efficiently thus making it appear that more and more people are unhealthy. Previously, these sicknesses just went undetected.

Its true once societies become more industrialized, there is a rise in red meat consumption among other things, but there are many other foods that have become accessible that have extreme health benifits should you choose to be concious of one's diet.

To me, its similiar in the way that psychologist have now found so many "disorders" that now require a pill. People made it fine for generations without such diagnosis or remedies, and I doubt that these "disorders" are a thing of the last few generations. We are just more able to "identify" them(or make them up from common symptoms for profit) but these symptons are nothing new.

Im under the assumption that genetic engineers can produce much higher quality food these days. Yes there are things in our food that can cause cancer if not taken in moderation, but lets not forget that standing outside in the sun or in a tanning booth can do this as well.

ps. i know little about the subject, but just my two cents

did I mention how much I love the health concious food critic (vegitarian/vegan) preaching and talking down on quality of US foods or the danger of meat with his friends while smoking a cigerette and drinking a beer?

did somebody fart?

i forgot what subject we were talking about.

oil prices (gas), milk (gas), unhealthy foods (silent but deadly gas).

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal did somebody fart? i forgot what subject we were talking about. oil prices (gas), milk (gas), unhealthy foods (silent but deadly gas).

Lol.

Let's talk about trance.
Or How much tiesto sucks

A full tank cost me $22.77 today!!!

Damn!

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Originally posted by LiquidX CA sales tax on GAS should be cut in half to at least help some in the meantime..

if you don't like it, don't buy it

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Originally posted by Nerologic I mean really??? This fucking SUCKS for us that have long commutes. I drive everywhere I drive about 20/25k miles a year. Sometimes more, this freaking SUCKS!

move next to your worksite and you can ride the bike!

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Originally posted by Tosh A full tank cost me $22.77 today!!! Damn!

Are you complaining or are you rubbing it on our face? I filled up my tank on Friday and it costed me $80. I drove quite a bit over the weekend so I filled it up again today and it costed me $50!

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Originally posted by Tosh A full tank cost me $22.77 today!!! Damn!

do you drive a mo-ped?

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen do you drive a mo-ped?

It would only be like 5 bucks if that was the case. Can't wait to get my tax refund to by myself a scooter, I live 2 miles from my work but still full 30 dollars a week in a Honda, go figure

Took me $50 to fill my car.. Doesn't seem like much.. but since I have to drive to school on the weekends it will last me a week. :/

GSXR 750...
I spend about $40 a month, my insurance is $21 a month for the best plan... Oh, and it's fucking fun to ride!
That price is for a FULL tank, bottom to top, of premium fuel at Chevron!

i drive a 272 HP v6, i get 20.22 mpg (calculated based on past 4000 miles) and my commute is 16 miles each way.

but its worth it because vroom vroom



my last car got 44mpg (80 HP )...

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Originally posted by bigperf if you don't like it, don't buy it

Oh WoW great idea!

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Originally posted by LiquidX Oh WoW great idea!

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