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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-19-2012 21:51:

Not many people who post in the Music Discussion section like uplifting trance, or trouse. Most people tend to move on from those styles after a couple of years of listening to them.


Posted by aStateOfTrance on Mar-19-2012 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Not many people who post in the Music Discussion section like uplifting trance, or trouse. Most people tend to move on from those styles after a couple of years of listening to them.


I love them!
What do people listen to instead ?


Posted by Woony on Mar-19-2012 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by aStateOfTrance
I love them!
What do people listen to instead ?


Here mostly Techno, House and older Trance I guess.

If you listen to a ton of uplifting (like most people here used to) you will tend to burn out on it pretty quickly.


Posted by aStateOfTrance on Mar-19-2012 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
Here mostly Techno, House and older Trance I guess.

If you listen to a ton of uplifting (like most people here used to) you burn out on it pretty quickly.


I have for years and I still love it haha!
What type of house, obviously not the type that I posted.
Are people on here more into older type of music than the stuff that we class as house and trance ?
would you say the music we call trance and house, is not what you or people on here know it as ?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-19-2012 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by aStateOfTrance
I love them!
What do people listen to instead ?


Yes, but you are only 19 and your tastes will inevitably change as time goes on. Most people on here have been listening for several years now, and they have moved on to things like techno, house, progressive and psy trance.


Posted by aStateOfTrance on Mar-19-2012 22:39:

But most stayed within the general Electronic Music genre ?
I could never see my self with an ipod full of indie music!


Posted by GreenOctopus on Mar-19-2012 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by aStateOfTrance
I have for years and I still love it haha!
What type of house, obviously not the type that I posted.
Are people on here more into older type of music than the stuff that we class as house and trance ?
would you say the music we call trance and house, is not what you or people on here know it as ?


I don't have time to etch out a particularly lengthy response since I'm catching a film soon, but here's a short version.

Well, first and foremost, genre differences are somewhat less obvious than whether one song has a lot of bass, or some number of elements or instruments, or some particular melody or chord structure (generally.) I think you're right to identify the progression or beat structure of a song as contributing to genre differences, but it's hardly all you need to understand. House, for instance, tends to be less overt and more subtle with melody. It tends to have more sustained chords, and are often more dissonant, harkening to jazz roots.

House (Deep House, in these specific examples)::





Progressive House::


Trance tends to have a higher tempo, a more pronounced melodic progression (arpeggios, spacious pads), but is more obvious. I'm trying to be careful here, because if I took a Venn diagram comparing trance and house in terms of how lush or spacious or "atmospheric" one song were, you'd come up with many similarities. Progressive trance is often centered around a BPM range of 127 to 134, while progressive house often overlaps this, ranging from around 123 BPM to 132 BPM. *shrug* Oh well.

"Uplifting" Trance (has fuck all to do with how, literally, uplifting or "happy" a song is than its nature towards higher tempos and pronounced riffs.)::





Progressive Trance::



Anyway, like I said, I haven't more time to explain this. Maybe later?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-19-2012 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by aStateOfTrance
But most stayed within the general Electronic Music genre ?
I could never see my self with an ipod full of indie music!


Most people's tastes evolve in a logical way. Or their tastes stay the same because they stop going out, stop listening to music and just play classics from when they were 21 and moan about how modern music is all shit.


Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-19-2012 22:52:

aka the RebeL9


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-19-2012 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
aka the RebeL9


No. Rebel9 listens to new music. He's merely a purist - absolute expert with the most demanding standards in one small scene, knows shit-all about anything else.


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-20-2012 08:45:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
No. Rebel9 listens to new music. He's merely a purist - absolute expert with the most demanding standards in one small scene, knows shit-all about anything else.


I'm quite an expert within the type of music produced in Sahara (mainly Wassoulou, Mbalax and Korah). Also quite a big fan of the qawwali genre. But not many people here to discuss it with
It's actually better than 99 % of the electronic music out there.


Posted by Barachem on Mar-20-2012 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Most people's tastes evolve in a logical way. Or their tastes stay the same because they stop going out, stop listening to music and just play classics from when they were 21 and moan about how modern music is all shit.


Oh, so that's why i went from eurotrance on the tv to uplifting euro to uplifting trance to prog house/trance to fullon (psy)trance?
I still like some good uplifter or proggy piece, but i do like fullon as well.
But the bad cheeze had to go and i'm still allergic to it... XD


Posted by aStateOfTrance on Mar-20-2012 17:14:

Ok, so Trance has a faster beat, and has more of a build up?
How else do you guys tell them apart.

Also, what would you classify this as , just club dance ?
Or would it be house ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sINiFJNXr-o


Posted by Mattsanity. on Mar-20-2012 17:28:


Posted by Barachem on Mar-20-2012 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by aStateOfTrance
Ok, so Trance has a faster beat, and has more of a build up?
How else do you guys tell them apart.

Also, what would you classify this as , just club dance ?
Or would it be house ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sINiFJNXr-o


That's pure septic tank, dude.


Posted by paulversuspaul on Mar-20-2012 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by aStateOfTrance
Ok, so Trance has a faster beat, and has more of a build up?
How else do you guys tell them apart.

Also, what would you classify this as , just club dance ?
Or would it be house ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sINiFJNXr-o


Pop music with some electronic elements. If you had to a pick a genre I would call that Stadium House ie Swedish House Mafia sound. The big problem is that the majority of newer EDM is much closer to a Britney Spears track than a Frankie Knuckles track.


Posted by Chimney on Mar-20-2012 20:08:

Trance then:



Trance now:




This is progressive-trance:









quote:
Also, what would you classify this as , just club dance ?
Or would it be house ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sINiFJNXr-o


This is shit. You're from the generation that thinks progressive house is high pitched Avicii stuff.


Posted by Mattsanity. on Mar-20-2012 20:38:

If T/S is a troll, he's trumped my entire existence on TA.


Posted by aStateOfTrance on Mar-20-2012 21:09:

Yeah, I now realize that most of what I posted has been uplifting House music, bar the cosmic gate song which would be vocal trance.

Also, trouse, is that just basically uplifting house music ?


Posted by rdevito on Mar-20-2012 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by aStateOfTrance
Yeah, I now realize that most of what I posted has been uplifting House music, bar the cosmic gate song which would be vocal trance.

Also, trouse, is that just basically uplifting house music ?


Correct me if i'm wrong, but this is Trouse:



And holy molly what a piece of crap!


Posted by aStateOfTrance on Mar-20-2012 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by rdevito
Correct me if i'm wrong, but this is Trouse:



And holy molly what a piece of crap!


Similar, but this is what I would call uplifting house:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw7S...ayer_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VL6...player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiSVdP_8eo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPUlqkt5wFs


Posted by GreenOctopus on Mar-20-2012 21:46:

I see your Jochen Miller, and raise you Maor Levi and M.I.K.E. (Yeah! What the shit?)



Anjunabeats was cratering for years, but it takes true managerial fuck-ups to descend from this:


Posted by aStateOfTrance on Mar-20-2012 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by GreenOctopus
I see your Jochen Miller, and raise you Maor Levi and M.I.K.E. (Yeah! What the shit?)



Anjunabeats was cratering for years, but it takes true managerial fuck-ups to descend from this:


I dont really like them two that you have posted!
Is that what you prefer ?


Posted by GreenOctopus on Mar-20-2012 22:00:

No, that Maor Levi track is an absolute ear bleeder. And my point is that, in spite of labels like Anjunabeats looking out for number one at this stage in its life as a record label, I can see that there was once a time when even they opened out with what were apparently quality releases. More so, at least, than these screeching tracks (like Couleurs du Soleil) that cheapen the value of music and lower the expectations of its listeners. Anjunabeats plainly doesn't trust its listeners to appreciate better music. That's the takeaway.


Posted by aStateOfTrance on Mar-20-2012 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by GreenOctopus
No, that Maor Levi track is an absolute ear bleeder. And my point is that, in spite of labels like Anjunabeats looking out for number one at this stage in its life as a record label, I can see that there was once a time when even they opened out with what were apparently quality releases. More so, at least, than these screeching tracks (like Couleurs du Soleil) that cheapen the value of music and lower the expectations of its listeners. Anjunabeats plainly doesn't trust its listeners to appreciate better music. That's the takeaway.


Do you mean that people would rather listen to some 3 minute track which they can dance to, than 'Listen' and feel a better, longer track.


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