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Posted by G K Murray on Sep-03-2002 21:44:

Re: Re: Re: Ecstasy effects 'may be imaginary'

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Ande


agreed, so why the goverment put it as a class A drug then??????????????? (or B)

thats what i don't understand


Because Governments have such NEGATIVE attitudes towards scientists. Scientists should be trusted, and the steroetipical scientist of today is becoming ridiculous, norrow minded PEEN.

Whereas, it's the anti-drug campaigners who thrive off norrowly viewed outlooks on drugs. These people dispise scientists, because scientists are the only people who can prove them wrong, and totally shame their hole objective.

The government, who believe anti-drug campaigners are carrying out positive duties towards certain scenes such as the clubbing scene, really aren't. The way forward is to HANDLE IT, and ACCEPT IT, not totally stop it like these anti-drug campaigners actaully think they can achive one day. Just shows how much they know


Posted by BluNine on Sep-03-2002 22:12:

quote:
Who drives around and kills people on mdma?

have you forgotten the huge news story concerning the NURSE that hit someone while fucked up on X, drove home with them STUCK IN HER WINDSHIELD, and left them in her garage for 3 days to DIE? apparently, you have.


Posted by Ian on Sep-03-2002 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by BluNine

have you forgotten the huge news story concerning the NURSE that hit someone while fucked up on X, drove home with them STUCK IN HER WINDSHIELD, and left them in her garage for 3 days to DIE? apparently, you have.



And that person wasn't you, so I wish her better luck next time on choosing her victim

I don't do drugs, but ffs we know ppl do and this is helpful to them so pack the fucking flaming up, they know the risks, they don't have it held to their mouths, so leave them to do their business & get on with ur own


Posted by Ste on Sep-03-2002 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by BluNine

have you forgotten the huge news story concerning the NURSE that hit someone while fucked up on X, drove home with them STUCK IN HER WINDSHIELD, and left them in her garage for 3 days to DIE? apparently, you have.


oh yeh and the person invovled obviously had only taken MDMA....


sum people...


Posted by Ste on Sep-03-2002 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranzlucent



This wanker from the Netherlands, who wants to be from Germany thinks he has a clue about what goes on in South America. What a retard. You're starting to get funny again bjloveparade.



you say that yet act like your the be all and end all of EUROPEAN music?


Posted by jp on Sep-03-2002 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by BluNine

have you forgotten the huge news story concerning the NURSE that hit someone while fucked up on X, drove home with them STUCK IN HER WINDSHIELD, and left them in her garage for 3 days to DIE? apparently, you have.


That's a top of the iceberg compaired to all the children hit by drunk drivers


Posted by Ste on Sep-03-2002 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by uwmadtrance


I'm curious where you've done your research, and I would like to peruse any publications you might be responsible for. I love your ignorant blanket comments in your posts (such as the one I've quoted), it makes your arguments look all that more intelligent. Oh, and when I've finished my three majors on the Dean's List at a very respectible University this Spring, we can argue as to who is the zombie ...


the only researching tranzlucent has been doing is on remedies to get rid of hemeroids.


Posted by jp on Sep-03-2002 22:23:

That pill the nurse took wasnt mdma, it was probably MDA or LSD


Posted by Ste on Sep-03-2002 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
That pill the nurse took wasnt mdma, it was probably MDA or LSD


highly liked the latter as well


Posted by G K Murray on Sep-04-2002 00:43:

Some of the stats are stupid when comes to Ectasy. Millions of people take them on weekends in the U.K, never mind the entire globe Things like, there's more prople die from heart attacks mowing their lawns in a year andeating a packet of peanuts is more dangerous etc etc.

At the end of the day, millions will carry on taking pills at weekends, and there's nothing the Government can do


Posted by Tranz on Sep-04-2002 03:23:

dumondetrancer, you have brass balls calling me gay, with that queer avatar of yourself. is that what you look like when you're checking out the gay porn videos you are your 'mates' made over the weekend bloke?


Posted by Wasted_Space on Sep-04-2002 15:15:

This thread is brilliant.

flaming, accusations, name calling...


Keep it going.


Posted by Hi-Voltage on Sep-04-2002 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranzlucent
dumondetrancer, you have brass balls calling me gay, with that queer avatar of yourself. is that what you look like when you're checking out the gay porn videos you are your 'mates' made over the weekend bloke?

peace mate
you're goin' too far
we cannot talk about something in a calm way?why do we behave like nomads?
IMHO E is not dangerous,just da 'trash' which put into a pill make it dangerous,not da mdma...
if da goverments legalized E,there would be no such as problmes and E would be cheaper


Posted by frontebb on Sep-04-2002 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Hi-Voltage

peace mate
you're goin' too far
we cannot talk about something in a calm way?why do we behave like nomads?
IMHO E is not dangerous,just da 'trash' which put into a pill make it dangerous,not da mdma...
if da goverments legalized E,there would be no such as problmes and E would be cheaper


When we have geniuses like you clarifying things in such an intellectual manner, there really is no reason FOR ranting. I mean, heck, why waste the time, ya know?


Posted by DJ Chrono on Sep-04-2002 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade


I know for a fact most Brasilians like fucking up their brain with ACID/LSD

how bout that


LOL this is hillarious.

do you know what kind of accusation you're making here?

you know for a FACT that MOST Brazilians use ACID/LSD,
where'd you learn this fact?

this thread is jokes


Posted by DJ Chrono on Sep-04-2002 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR

LMFAO you arrogant fuckwit, get a life and wake up to the truth u stupid fucking moron! yeh im sure you get all your wise words from the anti drug campaigners of america, another bunch of dumb arsed f�ckers!


LOl, you people can't be serious.

you actually believe xtc has no side effects ..?
you should be the one to "wake up to the truth".

and would it be better if there were no 'anti drug campaigners of america'? you think it would be better if they encouraged the use of drugs, and made them openly avaliable? Are you oblivious to the current state of the united states and drug problems? Do you not realize that their are 450,000+ homeless people (i dunno the exact figure.. maybe it's alot higher) living on the streets of the US, with a large percentage of them their because of substance abuse problems..

Maybe the situation is alittle different over in the UK or whereever you live, but that doesnt mean it is the same everywhere. and maybe you should think before you say retarted comments


Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Sep-04-2002 22:27:

quote:
with a large percentage of them their because of substance abuse problems


And how many of them are taking E? Its all Crack and Herion thats what the homeless take.

Anyways if you all want to preach about how fucking clean and great you all are, then go to some rehab place and preach all this shit at least you might be a bit more helpful then creating arguements like it is around here.


Posted by Ste on Sep-04-2002 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono


LOl, you people can't be serious.

you actually believe xtc has no side effects ..?
you should be the one to "wake up to the truth".

and would it be better if there were no 'anti drug campaigners of america'? you think it would be better if they encouraged the use of drugs, and made them openly avaliable? Are you oblivious to the current state of the united states and drug problems? Do you not realize that their are 450,000+ homeless people (i dunno the exact figure.. maybe it's alot higher) living on the streets of the US, with a large percentage of them their because of substance abuse problems..

Maybe the situation is alittle different over in the UK or whereever you live, but that doesnt mean it is the same everywhere. and maybe you should think before you say retarted comments



hum, did i say that, NO!

im sure you liek a drink right? think how many deatsh from drink related rage, uncontrolablity and illness comes from that? also smoking! everything you do thats not natural will eventually catch up with you, smoking, (lung damage) drinking (liver dmaage) eating too many fatty foods (heart disease/blocked arteries) so maybe you shoudl think before calling my comments "retarded".

ecstacy is a bad form of placebo sumtimes, if u start taking it u start to be mre weary abot what happens to u, like things u never noticed before, but were always there. ur mind "makes up" that it has affected u when most of the cases it hasnt. sothis maybe an extreme case, im sure she never jsut popped pills once a week though, if you catch my drift. at the end of the day the danger and hype surrounding E IS imaginary the "this pill will probably kill me" mentality shared with the majority of people is stupid and made up, even the scientists used to test the affects of E were biased as proved in the report, so in deed the are IMAGINARY...


Posted by jp on Sep-04-2002 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Chrono


LOL this is hillarious.

do you know what kind of accusation you're making here?

you know for a FACT that MOST Brazilians use ACID/LSD,
where'd you learn this fact?

this thread is jokes


most brasilians who do drugs use ACID


Posted by TiestoFanMatt on Sep-04-2002 23:34:

People keep bringing drinking into this, but if drinking was created in the 21st century then it wud be illigal unquestionably. If xtc was made legal, think of all the people who would die. Not everyone is careful when taking xtc. DumondeTrancer posted a thread about precautions taken, and about drinking water to keep the body cool etc... For people who prepare to take the drug then this is perfect advice that is needed (well done dumondetrancer( But the truth is allot of people would take xtc in a spontanious action and they would be the people who would die because of this. That is one big reason why its illigal. I had a friend who died from that so I know the effects that it has not only on friends but the devastation caused on the families. It's hard to see people here talk about it when i know that the unlucky ones who are only take it once are the ones that are seriously effected.

I think ppl need to stop making this a personal flaming thread here. It's a discussion and its sad to see ppl turn to name calling

The truth of the matter is though, if people want to take it, they will do. If, like most people (hopefully) on this board have a broad knowledge of the substance etc... then thats their choice, flaming them and bashing their lifestyle wont change their minds but only make them more determined to prove ppl wrong.

Matt

p.s. hope i didnt offend anyone, so dont flame me plz



Posted by sothis on Sep-04-2002 23:57:

quote:
sothis maybe an extreme case, im sure she never jsut popped pills once a week though, if you catch my drift


uh, no... im sorry, i dont get your drift.

are you insinuating that i am lying, and in reality, i was taking mdma more than one time a week? ill hold back on being angry until i find out if thats what you actually meant or not.


Posted by sothis on Sep-05-2002 00:00:

and another thing... my situation is not confined only to me. i know one other person, personally, who is having to take the same category of medication as i am (anti psychotics) because of damage from mdma. literally everyone i know that used to do this drug on a semi regular basis, has stopped, because they feel what it has done to them emotionally. if you havent gotten to that point yet, you are lucky. but it will happen if you do it on a regular basis.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Sep-05-2002 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR
hum, did i say that, NO!

im sure you liek a drink right? think how many deatsh from drink related rage, uncontrolablity and illness comes from that? also smoking!


of course drinking heavily is not healthy, Im just saying that you said "im sure you get all your wise words from the anti drug campaigners of america, another bunch of dumb arsed f�ckers!" Maybe you should consider that they are acutally trying to help solve some humitarian issues that are very present within their country.

also when you said "LMFAO you arrogant fuckwit, get a life and wake up to the truth u stupid fucking moron!" to someone who was aknowledging that xtc could have long term side effects,, it's very immature, and ignorant, and that why I said think before posting retarted comments.


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