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Originally posted by zyklon-jay did Britney Spears win her Grammys by mistake ?:P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Luke

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Originally posted by Marcus007 as opposed to melody first?

I was talking about this plonky squarewave bassline and shitty vocal-recording/performance deep house style that is popular for some reason now. Although some of it is pretty good, like Maceo Plex, he knows what he's doing, i dont blame him for milking the same style every track, all his tracks are bombs. Not my style bet definetly respect what he's done!

ya maceo is def a genius but i'm a little tired of his music these days. everyone plays it so it isn't really special anymore. Still has skills (of course)

I call it hipster house. Still deciding whether it's here to stay or another one of those fads.

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Originally posted by chris1011 I call it hipster house. Still deciding whether it's here to stay or another one of those fads.

I thought it was gonna last 2 months but im starting to think its not gonna die out for a while. It's too easy to make versus how popular it is. You can literally be the worst singer in the world and have 1 day of experience on ableton and as long as you put one of those plonky basslines and reverb the shit out of your piss-poor vocal, someone will sign it, thus prolonging the trend. Solomun's remix of Around has to be my favorite one of the bunch, that's a good track, fad or not.

Just to clarify with everyone this is probably gonna stick around for a while cuz many have missed, this is The prog that Desyn, Luke fair, Add2basket and that whole crew were championing 3 years ago it just got reincarnated and pitched down.

the reality of things it crosses over, genres and fads repeat themselves over and over...they are just disguised differently every time they re-surface.

to be honest its not as easy as you think it is to make.

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Originally posted by Maher Daniel Just to clarify with everyone this is probably gonna stick around for a while cuz many have missed, this is The prog that Desyn, Luke fair, Add2basket and that whole crew were championing 3 years ago it just got reincarnated and pitched down. the reality of things it crosses over, it has vocals in it, when the women like it and dance to it, it makes the men dance as well thats a whin whin situation, which means more booze being sold. to be honest its not as easy as you think it is to make.

Its pop house, I can see why its so popular.

do i really need to make another track under casa to prove my point Mr. Daniel..

wait wait wait...when we say 'hipster house', is an example of it the whole hot natured/hot creations sound that's being way overdone these days?

i call that ketamine house. and i fucking despise it.

I thought you loved that stuff Erika

look, there are always exceptions...i'm not saying i hate every song ever made that fits the genre in question ('despise' was a harsh word, i admit it) however, i am saying that i am fkn fed up of hearing the same formula & same components in each track that fits this hipster/ketamine house genre.

everybody and their mother has jumped on this wagon, and i get why. it's popular, it's hip, it's what attracts attention from bigger artists like lazarus, art dept, jones, foss, troxler, etc...these days.

i don't think it will fade away soon, but eventually, yes, it will. music is like fashion, everything repeats itself...

i think some ppl may have the wrong impression, and think i like this hipster house maybe because maher plays a lottttt of it these days and i support him no matter what he makes, but it's really funny actually when i come home & he asks what i think about what he's working on and i say something like 'i fkn hate this' lolllll...i am brutally honest with him.

honestly, it just hasn't grown on me...but i can still enjoy SOME of it in small doses with the right ppl and the right party. it's not all terrible, but i am sick of it.

and it's interesting, like ppl said before, i too hear maceo plex absolutely everywhere, but fuck, i still don't get sick of his sound. i rly feel he's in a fkn league of his own...u want a new beatport genre? maceo plex house, there, done. i still listen to 'life index' almost every day. so it's not because a genre is everywhere that i dislike it...it comes down to taste in the end (like everything else in life i guess).

ill check out the hot natured party that's happening at telus theatre, maybe they'll impress me this time

What is Hipster or Ketamine house? I don't get it.

Link ?

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Originally posted by ~*Stereohead*~ but it's really funny actually when i come home & he asks what i think about what he's working on and i say something like 'i fkn hate this' lolllll...i am brutally honest with him.

Good. You're doing him a favor! Go Erika. Honesty FTW

dOP does it well.

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal What is Hipster or Ketamine house? I don't get it. Link ?

caca like this.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay caca like this.

Now compare that with this. You tell me what sounds like a better production. We're not talking about what is a better anthem, club banger etc, those ketamine or whatever tracks are bombs and make people dance thats for sure. But personally, thats not what i look for in a record. I want to know that the producer took time, has talent and creativity to make the best possible music he can and if it bangs in a club, thats an added bonus. That's just my point of view as a record producer. Then again art department without you was the track that started that whole phase so maybe its a bad example. Gotta respect them even if i dont like their music.

As an artist myself and im sure many others would agree, theres so much music out there that the only stuff thats worth listening to is the stuff that makes you go "wow how the hell did he write that hi hat pattern, what a great crisp vocal recording, wicked melody, this guy must have formal piano training, etc.

thats my 2cents, im sure many producers/people that have been around the scene for a while would agree.

ib4 i get called an egotistical elitist douchebag for stating my point of view and backing it up.

that art department track certainly isn't hard to beat. If i had to play music for k heads it would be this and so funny to watch them attempt to dance to it.



not a fan of the stimming track either, i prefer the early dynamic stuff, but really he lost me.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay that art department track certainly isn't hard to beat. If i had to play music for k heads it would be this and so funny to watch them attempt to dance to it. not a fan of the stimming track either, i prefer the early dynamic stuff, but really he lost me.

Cool track!! Thanks for that one. That stimming one is pretty early on in diynamic (march2009), i used to be a massive fan of him, all his first eps, funkworm, his first album etc. It was sad to have to unclick "follow this artist" on beatport. he's been terrible

Also, if anyone understands what I said before and wants to start producing, please run away and steer clear of ableton. its the worst sounding software in the world and 95% of that ketamine stuff is made on that because alot of those tracks sample rnb records and ableton is super good for looping and sampling but it ruins the sound quality. It's super easy to tell who mixes in ableton and who doesnt. if you bounce out of ableton and into protools or with an outboard console , youre fine. But most of those guys are too lazy. If ableton sounded as good as everything else it would be the best audio production program in the world and everything else would be obsolete.

not on youtube but check out this for something to skull fuck junkies with

http://www.discogs.com/Somfay-Serendip/release/1129924

good old diynamic:





man that label really went to shit

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Originally posted by Adam420 good old diynamic: man that label really went to shit

Massive tank, I agree!
Eiszauber was actually the first track I even played in a club!
Still remember cueing that one up. Ah good times.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay caca like this.

Ok I see, didn't know that was called Ketamine house... i'm learning something new everyday.

presented without comment

so 90's. this trend and this uk bass movement are pretty much a slightly tweaked sound that was part of the 90's boom in dance music (old fucks like me will remember), and uk bass is essentially the uk garage we saw mostly towards the end of that decade. There where plenty of shit amateur house vocalists too back then, some which got very popular....the difference now is that i find that it is true to say that there are less quality records with quality vox now than back then. Damien Lazarus needs to find one of those fat black choir church ladies and sign her.

Don't forget the impact that dj worship had on dance music, causing everyone to want to be a dj and not really care if they do it badly or not. American idol and those shows cause people to think they are signers in the same way. I see it all the time, some chick claiming to be a vocalist, but when you hear her you have to stop yourself from giggling or making disgusted faces until after the hj.

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Originally posted by ~*Stereohead*~ look, there are always exceptions...i'm not saying i hate every song ever made that fits the genre in question ('despise' was a harsh word, i admit it) however, i am saying that i am fkn fed up of hearing the same formula & same components in each track that fits this hipster/ketamine house genre. everybody and their mother has jumped on this wagon, and i get why. it's popular, it's hip, it's what attracts attention from bigger artists like lazarus, art dept, jones, foss, troxler, etc...these days. i don't think it will fade away soon, but eventually, yes, it will. music is like fashion, everything repeats itself... i think some ppl may have the wrong impression, and think i like this hipster house maybe because maher plays a lottttt of it these days and i support him no matter what he makes, but it's really funny actually when i come home & he asks what i think about what he's working on and i say something like 'i fkn hate this' lolllll...i am brutally honest with him. honestly, it just hasn't grown on me...but i can still enjoy SOME of it in small doses with the right ppl and the right party. it's not all terrible, but i am sick of it. and it's interesting, like ppl said before, i too hear maceo plex absolutely everywhere, but fuck, i still don't get sick of his sound. i rly feel he's in a fkn league of his own...u want a new beatport genre? maceo plex house, there, done. i still listen to 'life index' almost every day. so it's not because a genre is everywhere that i dislike it...it comes down to taste in the end (like everything else in life i guess). ill check out the hot natured party that's happening at telus theatre, maybe they'll impress me this time

i'm with you on this. that whole sound is really overplayed at the moment. i was into it for a bit, but now i just want to get away from it because that's all you hear wherever you go.

enough negative energy, what do you guys find is the best produced stuff at the moment. I'm really feeling this Uk Garage stuff, thats where its at , at the moment. Guys like Actress Space Dimension Controller Lone etc.

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