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As some one pointed out earlier... as soon as the trance-impaired bigots (lol) hear an electronic bass drum instead of what they're used to, it turns them off. It's like me: as soon as i hear a really heavy guitar riff, i switch right off as well. But in general, i don't mind listening to different types of music once in a while. I believe it makes me appreciate the music I love even more.
It's just something about that really heavy guitar and the whole thrash metal thing. Ughhhh, especially the voice that makes the people sound like they're choking.

Here is my opinion. Most people on this earth are brainwashed zeolots and for the most part incredibly stupid. The end.

Most people hear the beat and say how do you listen to that, they dont really listen to the melodies and unique sounds which gives electronic music lovers the highs

mostly through musical arrogance and lack of musical brain ie. dont like music without singing.

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Originally posted by Cyberwoo Here is my opinion. Most people on this earth are brainwashed zeolots and for the most part incredibly stupid. The end.

your opinion is good hehe,

wen i try to get my m8s (not tranceaddicts) to listen to trance, they dont wanna know, cos apparently its all the same, "all sounds shite to me", aaaggggghhhhhh, if they sat down and fully listened to a compilation cd or mix they mite actually understand why i luv it so much. wen they put rock music on i try and listen and sometimes quite like it, because i know wat its like wen people wont give it a chance. Borrowed one of my m8s politics of dancing the other day and thank god he has seen the light!
the thing is one of my m8s (who is now into rock) used to b into trance as much as i was, but now is really arrogant about it, and sez i only go clubbing cos of the fanny, like he gets it. i know for a fact he will like it again if he gave it a chance and gets it out of his head that its not total shite.

if more people would give it a chance and actually listen to a melody instead of turning it off before the intro is finished then they mite grow to like it.

but seems like these people dont know how to live life to its fullest.

Mick

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen If someone doesn't understand trance then it is their loss. They will miss out on one of the best things in life.

Exactly what I was gonna say

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Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR mostly through musical arrogance and lack of musical brain ie. dont like music without singing.

I think musical arrogance is a prob a lot of people have period but I agree that for some reason a lot of people need music to have vocals to be able to enjoy it for some reason.

I don't think the commercialization point really applies to north america, because the stuff just isn't on the radio over here. And I don't think simply exposing people to "good" trance is the answer either. People either like the style, or they don't like the style. I could put together an 80 minute comp of trance anthems that everyone on here loves, but your average non-TA would probably pick out one or two songs that they liked, and consider the rest shite, or something akin to it. It just requires a certain taste.

Uninformed people *do* tend to hear the 4/4 beat, and focus on that instead of on the changing melody, and the emotion aspect of the tunes...I find most people who aren't into trance who I expose to new stuff like constantly changing tunes...like my pal Scott is into airdrawndagger, WoW, and stuff like Holden's Nothing (Mix 2) because of the way they don't focus on beat, and constantly change things up. Going beyond that into liking more "conventional" stuff is something that a lot of people just aren't able to do, it's just not something that takes them to that pinnancle that it takes us to; and has been said already, there's nothing wrong with that, there's plenty of room for all kinds of different music for different tastes...

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Originally posted by dj kinetica it takes a while to build =/ and to get the full effect you gotta listen to the whole song but people dont wanna take the time to listen to the whole thing =/

Man, this is a great point that I hadn't even thought of...and it's so true.

People tend to be used to shorter tunes, and when you set them down with something like say "Gouryella-Gouryella", which takes 2.5 minutes to even get going, they tend to lose interest quickly.

That's why I've tried to explain to people before that you shouldn't *anticipate* a change, or be waiting for something with a trance song, you should just let the tune go where it's going to go, and let yourself flow right along with it...especially with more chilled stuff like Sunday Club and Chicane.

It is just TASTE that does it

It's because the only so called "trance" they've heard is the shit that's played on the radio, and that's where they get the "trance sounds like BOOOM BOOM BAM BAM" sterio type. Oh well, they're missing out.

"why is it so long?"

"how come there are no lyrics?"

its so repetitive"

blah blah blah..

y'know, i bet if the redio stations played a few good songs, there would be alot more ppl liking trance, and alot less stereotypes about it. and also, ppl bash it, but they havent tried it..

goddammn it !

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Originally posted by Aya Brea It's because the only so called "trance" they've heard is the shit that's played on the radio, and that's where they get the "trance sounds like BOOOM BOOM BAM BAM" sterio type. Oh well, they're missing out.

100% agree there aya.

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i used to get frustarted all the time cuz all my friends did the cliche' "this is girly music, this all sounds tha same, this is boring" etc crap but through my trance obsession i have been able to travel the world and then become friends with peeps that share this obsession with trance music...i have always felt like this is "my special music" as long as i like it fuck all ya'll hoes that dont PEACE

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Originally posted by tor8024 very often i hear people saying "how can you listen to that shit, it's always the same, it's boring with all those beats"

lemme ask you something...what do you think of progressive?

How come even fewer people understand progressive? then again, prog is way harder to understand that trance ever will be (no offence to trance, but thats the truth)...hehe, prog is more "sophisticated"

our brains are more sophisticated.....

i think it's rather feeling the music that does it for me... i mean, i hear beats and subconsciously i know that something new is going to come on with the next 4 beats... and i anticipate it...

you know how they say that if you don't like classical music, that means you don't understand it and you're not mature enough for it? i just think that's complete bullshit. for everyone his/her own. every person is different and everyone has their own turn on. mine is trance and not pop or rock.

but you all are right, most americans are stereotyped towards electronica. my sister's boyfriend (well, he's really russian but actually listens to acosta, tiesto, and such) was asking me why there weren't any huge hits this year... caz last year there was darude with sandstorm and the year before that atb with something else...

i don't see that as ignorance, i don't criticize him. i see that as being misinformed, not understanding WHAT the real electronica stuff is. and i emphasize, he DID borrow all of my GU cds (004, 007, 009, 013, 015, 019, 021, 022) and the only ones he really liked was just 007, i think... melodic stuff... he also asked me to made him a cd with some new stuff and i let him preview some tunes before recording and he told me which ones he liked... ALL of them were female vocals...


so the big question would be, WHY? why are some people able to yell "OMFG, this is the best track in my life" when they hear the breakdown of Ligaya, and others say "turn this repetitive crap off"? what makes me 'die' when the screeching and ripping percussions of S.H.O.K.K. come on and others to say that my speakers are broken and they're making some kind of weird noise?


i guess the answers lie much deeper on a psychological/chemical/physical level. what makes us special? maybe some kind of study would reveal a similarity or 2 in us, TAs... maybe it's some kind of a weird DNA configuration or a chromosome thing... who knows???

wow, sorry, i only wanted to post 2 sentences...

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Originally posted by TiestoInTheMix i think it's rather feeling the music that does it for me... i mean, i hear beats and subconsciously i know that something new is going to come on with the next 4 beats... and i anticipate it... you know how they say that if you don't like classical music, that means you don't understand it and you're not mature enough for it? i just think that's complete bullshit. for everyone his/her own. every person is different and everyone has their own turn on. mine is trance and not pop or rock. but you all are right, most americans are stereotyped towards electronica. my sister's boyfriend (well, he's really russian but actually listens to acosta, tiesto, and such) was asking me why there weren't any huge hits this year... caz last year there was darude with sandstorm and the year before that atb with something else... i don't see that as ignorance, i don't criticize him. i see that as being misinformed, not understanding WHAT the real electronica stuff is. and i emphasize, he DID borrow all of my GU cds (004, 007, 009, 013, 015, 019, 021, 022) and the only ones he really liked was just 007, i think... melodic stuff... he also asked me to made him a cd with some new stuff and i let him preview some tunes before recording and he told me which ones he liked... ALL of them were female vocals... so the big question would be, WHY? why are some people able to yell "OMFG, this is the best track in my life" when they hear the breakdown of Ligaya, and others say "turn this repetitive crap off"? what makes me 'die' when the screeching and ripping percussions of S.H.O.K.K. come on and others to say that my speakers are broken and they're making some kind of weird noise? i guess the answers lie much deeper on a psychological/chemical/physical level. what makes us special? maybe some kind of study would reveal a similarity or 2 in us, TAs... maybe it's some kind of a weird DNA configuration or a chromosome thing... who knows??? wow, sorry, i only wanted to post 2 sentences...

life events vs. feelings at the time being

progressive lies deeper in ones trance life......


interpret those two senteces as u will

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec life events vs. feelings at the time being progressive lies deeper in ones trance life...... interpret those two senteces as u will

so then i guess you're saying that the more philosophical the person is, the more they've experienced the bitterness of life in its glory (as opposed to having a happy and untroubled childhood/teen years) then the more they're into trance?

because i'm very interested in the reasons that i can freely listen to GU022 without ff'ing it or skipping any tracks (and i admit, it didn't really strike me as unusual in the beginning, i even hated it a bit). but now i find that it really grew on me with the 2nd time (i knew it would happen, it happened before).

maybe it's all about being the "MOOD" music?

I wont call myself a metalhead but i like Trance/Techno and Rock.....

trance

when i tell people "i love trance" they ahve no idea what i am talking about...it is so annoying..and

The best way to get someone into trance is to give them a pill of E and take them to a huge party...

Thats what got me!

sketch

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH lemme ask you something...what do you think of progressive?

i like lots of genres, including prog.

but i just hate it when a dj plays trance and the bass is so hard you almost can't hear any melody and fx.

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Originally posted by tor8024 but i just hate it when a dj plays trance and the bass is so hard you almost can't hear any melody and fx.

i agree. but having said that, in a club last saturday, the DJ played the Embargo mix of Insomnia and the bass in that was absolutly fuckin awesome and powerful. everyone went mad to that tune. does everyone know of this tune?

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Originally posted by djrichy i agree. but having said that, in a club last saturday, the DJ played the Embargo mix of Insomnia and the bass in that was absolutly fuckin awesome and powerful. everyone went mad to that tune. does everyone know of this tune?

i no that tune, its called 'player one - insomnia (embargo remix)' i think, its the same as faithless insomnia, iam wondering if the person i got it off has named the mp3 wrong, help me with that please!!!!

and i realy don't no why people find trance shite, and like rock, its realy weird has the mind & brain works

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