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yeah the jazz cigarettes have made me have to write cheques with crayons. I speak with my work, you don't want to listen? My foreskin remains intact.

Rock Lobster.

i don't have an hour to listen. I just think you would give examples for those that are interested. I mean you know your mix, i'm sure you could take 10 minutes to mention the things you feel made the mix more than just tunes.

I'll be seeing Prydz at te Identity Fest next month down here. He's the only reason I'm going.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i don't have an hour to listen. I just think you would give examples for those that are interested. I mean you know your mix, i'm sure you could take 10 minutes to mention the things you feel made the mix more than just tunes.

My literacy level is somewhere between retard and blind people with that hand numbing disease. The only reason i'm good at dj'ing is the flashy lights.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay I guess i would ask Eddie to chime in as he seems to have listened to them and can give a completely unbiased opinion.

If I were going to point to a part with a clear example of what I think is under discussion, here, it would be from 52:20 to around the 57 minute marks. There, rather distinctly, can be heard three different tracks which are mixed in key and with a distinct intent, in-so-far as melodic phrasing is concerned. What's more is that this occurs throughout the course of three tracks with a second phrase, completing as it's taking over, for one that's losing prominence in the first track to feed into the last track this stretch of time pertains to.

Perhaps it could have been finessed a little more but it wasn't executed with a semantic discussion concerning harmonic mixing, in mind. They don't necessarily mesh together, perfectly, but they don't necessarily need to in order to have a desirable effect. From 1:16:25 (careful - there is clipping around that point) to the end is perhaps a more tangible, if not meaningful, example where I think Jay's done a good job fitting an acapella into the song that follows it.

At first, it seems as though he's playing two separate tracks that have nothing to do with one another - that it is just a spurious decision, on his part, to include an acapella; for the sake of playing an acapella. What he's done with a sort of fluid precision, however, is set up an algorithmic riddle. Prior to the introduction of the final song, one is left wondering, what the fuck is he up to?. Somewhat deftly, he pulls off the reveal in such a way that I had to check the track-list to make sure that it wasn't just him flipping the record over from the acapella version to a remix with an established rhythm section.

I'm not trying to blow smoke up Jay's ass with this post. While I'm impressed with his handy-work and think it relevant to the discussion, I'm wondering if it's qualitatively finessed enough to be a "solid" example of this topic's ideal. The examples I'm citing are rough around the edges. Irrespective of the clipping issues, the acapella could have been shortened in its length while still achieving the same effect. There isn't necessarily a "lockstep" precision to it that would help to ensure its poignancy. In terms of melodic and harmonic complexity, however, I still think both cited examples surpass Clooney's "Chords-out-of-Context" metaphor by displaying a rather clear execution of an intention that is apparent, as such.

Looking forward to seeing Prydz here on Saturday. Although he's only scheduled to play 12:30-2:30... with Arty closing (who's fucking idea was THAT?).

Normally I'd think "Oh well, Prydz will just play longer and the closer will have to deal" ... but since it's Arty, I'm sure his management would get a massive stick up their asses if he doesn't get his full set. -_-

Maybe Prydz will go on early? One can hope.

I hereby elect judge eddie zilker of the people's court. Thanks for saying what i would need several dictionaries and paralegals to even attempt to state.

That being said we call on agree in citing this one as : Rock Lobster.

Thanks for giving the critique, it's always awesome seeing someone who knows how to use things like words give a little insight. Negative or positive y'all motherfuckas still giving me hittttttts

In other words: I'll edit this post in the morning when i make sense.

I'll be seeing Prydz on Saturday at the Palladium as well. This will be my 3rd time seeing him in LA! Can't fucken wait.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney it would be like pulling out a chord book and playing the notes without understanding the greater point

so you're saying it's kind of similar to saying you went to a university and graduated but you actually didn't?

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Originally posted by jonmitz so you're saying it's kind of similar to saying you went to a university and graduated but you actually didn't?

Honestly, give it a rest.

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Originally posted by jonmitz so you're saying it's kind of similar to saying you went to a university and graduated but you actually didn't?

analogies take practice. keep at it.

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Originally posted by Quazar Looking forward to seeing Prydz here on Saturday. Although he's only scheduled to play 12:30-2:30... with Arty closing (who's fucking idea was THAT?). Normally I'd think "Oh well, Prydz will just play longer and the closer will have to deal" ... but since it's Arty, I'm sure his management would get a massive stick up their asses if he doesn't get his full set. -_- Maybe Prydz will go on early? One can hope.

Contracts. They are oblied to play from 12:30 to 2:30, if technical issues happen is another story , you can see some artists playing extended sets but thats up to them they are not oblied in any form, if both venue and artist agree is sort of a vocal agreement.

In this case you won't see prydz playing more than 2:30, neither will see Arty because he is a douche.

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Originally posted by Beatflux these guys weren't playing anything spectacular. Absolutely no vocals at all and no elaborate melodies or big leads. Sometimes all you heard was a kick and off beat bass.

care to tell who they were? sounds promising!!

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos Contracts. They are oblied to play from 12:30 to 2:30, if technical issues happen is another story , you can see some artists playing extended sets but thats up to them they are not oblied in any form, if both venue and artist agree is sort of a vocal agreement. In this case you won't see prydz playing more than 2:30, neither will see Arty because he is a douche.

get the dj high, he will play an extended set. The main reason why djs don't play longer is that the promoter doesn't give a fuck and wants to go home with his money. Djs that are high will play until they run out of drugs.

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Originally posted by Beatflux I saw Eric Prydz live and he's how the evening played out: I got there 2 hours before he came on and the warm up guys played some generic house/tech house that was pretty basic. House rule is DJ's can't play bigger than the headliner, so these guys weren't playing anything spectacular. Absolutely no vocals at all and no elaborate melodies or big leads. Sometimes all you heard was a kick and off beat bass. When Eric comes on he plays a 7 minute track that's one long pad. The rest of the set is broken down into three parts: Part 1: More of the same: warm up house. Part 2: More melodic stuff. This is where it gets interesting. He starts to play stuff with more melody. He plays a special bootleg of Pjanoo that reveals that famous riff for just one pass. The riff plays once and then is kind of muted for the rest of the track. A few tracks later Pjanoo is introduced again, but then it goes into Part 3: Mash Ups Pjanoo is finally dropped and its a mashed up version with vocals from I don't know where. He plays a few other mash ups as well and ends the night with Mirage. He really seems to like 2night. None of this is really surprising considering that he also builds up his track arrangements in the same way. 99% of DJs don't even bother to put in this kind of thought though, which is really a shame. What he did was not really difficult, and it just required a bit of forethought into his set.

Alot of DJ's do this. But many times it goes unnoticed by most people.
Not every DJ has their own anthems, if you'd like, and the fact that he's more of a popstar than a DJ anymore, who does an act that is in a constant state of being fine-tuned. It's no big secret that most of the really top deejay'z play the same set every night.

I don't know what the dj scene is like over in Colorado, but at least here in Oslo I've heard dj's play like the first two verses of a spoken house tune then to mash the rest of it with banging tribal track an hour later etc. A good dj will do stuff like that when they play live, keep the crowd on their toes abit. But as I said, can go unnoticed in clubs, where people (at least here) often go outside for cigarettes, coke in the bathroom etc. I guess bigger names glue them better to the floor.

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Like L4C was saying before, you can hint at a track to come later on by dropping a small snippet of it before its going to be played in full, and that's what Eric did. Anticipation is quite the drug.

Yes it is, if administered correctly.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay i really hate posting my own stuff.

Gotta love that irony. But it'd be even better if you'd say shit.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney analogies take practice. keep at it.

you said anal

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Originally posted by dj_alfi Gotta love that irony. But it'd be even better if you'd say shit.

it was intended, why would i do the other? i'm describing my work, not yours that no one listens to.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay it was intended, why would i do the other? i'm describing my work, not yours that no one listens to.

haha fuck you :P bitches be lovin my mixtapes ALL THE TIME bro.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi Alot of DJ's do this. But many times it goes unnoticed by most people. Not every DJ has their own anthems, if you'd like, and the fact that he's more of a popstar than a DJ anymore, who does an act that is in a constant state of being fine-tuned. It's no big secret that most of the really top deejay'z play the same set every night. I don't know what the dj scene is like over in Colorado, but at least here in Oslo I've heard dj's play like the first two verses of a spoken house tune then to mash the rest of it with banging tribal track an hour later etc. A good dj will do stuff like that when they play live, keep the crowd on their toes abit. But as I said, can go unnoticed in clubs, where people (at least here) often go outside for cigarettes, coke in the bathroom etc. I guess bigger names glue them better to the floor. Yes it is, if administered correctly.

If were doing a 2 hour set I would put a 10 or 15 minute intermission, in the set just because standing around for 2 hours straight is exhausting. At the end of the set I had been there for about 4-5 hours so my back was killing me. Ears were completely fine though thanks to proper ear protection.

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Originally posted by Beatflux If were doing a 2 hour set I would put a 10 or 15 minute intermission, in the set just because standing around for 2 hours straight is exhausting. At the end of the set I had been there for about 4-5 hours so my back was killing me. Ears were completely fine though thanks to proper ear protection.

What do you mean, "doing a 2 hour set"? as a dj? and you would put an intermission in the middle of your set?

or do you mean as an attendee, and you're just supporting/embellishing (sp?) the 'might go unnoticed in a club' statement i made?

ill be honest, i am in a great deal of pain right now and the way you worded the first sentence is really puzzling me right now. sorry for any incoherence.

powder your nose surely

Eric was awesome in LA! He kicked ass.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi What do you mean, "doing a 2 hour set"? as a dj? and you would put an intermission in the middle of your set?

Get on the PA and say you have 10 minutes to get drunk and stuff then turn down the music.

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Originally posted by Beatflux If were doing a 2 hour set I would put a 10 or 15 minute intermission, in the set just because standing around for 2 hours straight is exhausting. At the end of the set I had been there for about 4-5 hours so my back was killing me. Ears were completely fine though thanks to proper ear protection.

Try dancing, the movement will take the strain off your back. I also recommend improving your physical fitness. And taking drugs.

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