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Posted by Euphorica on Aug-29-2012 14:43:

definitely not the best ever made. they missed out on a lot of stuff.

but only so much one can cover in 90 mins.


Posted by GGM on Aug-29-2012 19:21:

Sick documentary and a great watch. The UK focus and bias in putting their radio/BBC's involvement so high on the list is a bit annoying but pretty much every documentary has that type of thing to some degree. I love how they got all the long time legends involved and used their point of view constantly so it's not just a narrator blabbing on and on. Cox, Tong, Van Helden and Oakenfold have all been around for decades up until now so it's cool to get their take on it. Loved the tid bit on Daft Punk too since that's what got me into everything. I think it could've used a bigger focus on Detroit + Berlin's role in techno, trance (for the most part wasn't covered), the 808 drum machine + Moog. But it's hard to fit everything into 90 minutes as mentioned.

On the topic of "best ever", it's all subject to opinion but I personally enjoyed this one a lot:


Not the same style of trying to cover everything since the start of all things electronic. Just love the detailed history it gives on stuff that happened during a time I was too young to experience but lead to the music I enjoy today.


Posted by culorut on Aug-29-2012 22:36:

Well done documentary but I felt it ripped off Pump up the Volume - The History of House Music.



Posted by Skipper on Aug-30-2012 01:26:

So many more docs to watch, thanks everyone!


Posted by -g- on Aug-30-2012 02:12:

highly biased but highly enjoyable.

def recommended!


Posted by PurpleHaze on Aug-30-2012 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by GGM
On the topic of "best ever", it's all subject to opinion but I personally enjoyed this one a lot:



Wow I really really enjoyed this documentary. The live original footage from the Shelter and The Music Institute in Detroit in the late 80's/early 90's added a lot of dynamic to the documentary and opened my eyes to what scene Richie and his friends grew up with. LOL at how he came up with Plastikman...never knew that and gave me a good laugh. He looked like Moby with his bald head and glasses which was his nerd style for so long lol!

There was discussion of a party that he threw in the Packard warehouse where he lined the entire place in black plastic and was playing dark eerie minimal in the early 90s. Unforutunately no live footage from that party from what I can remember but fuck me it must've been off the hook

I loved Richie's optimisim for every situation/cross-road/dead-end that he came to in his life. What a guy! Always looking on the bright side of things.

Thanks for posting this GGM!

I'll check out the video that Skipper posted after work. I'm really getting into EDM documentaries ATM!


Posted by loopdokter on Aug-30-2012 18:00:

This was basically the soundtrack of my youth to adulthood from the late 1980s to present. It was great just hearing the music, let alone hearing from so many people who had involvement in the scene.

My main contention was the presenter. While he is a DJ and producer, he's known for his urban music affiliation, not his electronic music affiliation. I would have rather they had someone with some better presenting experience do it. John Peel would have been ideal, but he's obviously not with us.


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Posted by The Highroller on Aug-30-2012 19:54:

Maestro still has to be my fav dance music documentary. I'm looking forward to checking out SLICES though.


Posted by Nobbie Q on Sep-01-2012 06:43:

Pretty cool doc. Yeah trance definitely needed to be talked about in this documentary, but as others as have already said, only so much can be covered in 90 mins.


It definitely makes you appreciate the culture more. Who else felt like DJ'ing right after this or search up club listings ??


Posted by an_an on Sep-02-2012 17:08:

quote:
Originally posted by GGM
Sick documentary and a great watch. The UK focus and bias in putting their radio/BBC's involvement so high on the list is a bit annoying but pretty much every documentary has that type of thing to some degree. I love how they got all the long time legends involved and used their point of view constantly so it's not just a narrator blabbing on and on. Cox, Tong, Van Helden and Oakenfold have all been around for decades up until now so it's cool to get their take on it. Loved the tid bit on Daft Punk too since that's what got me into everything. I think it could've used a bigger focus on Detroit + Berlin's role in techno, trance (for the most part wasn't covered), the 808 drum machine + Moog. But it's hard to fit everything into 90 minutes as mentioned.


+1

Great documentary! But hated how it was so bias to how UK changed the rave scene! Missed out on a bunch.


Posted by Skipper on Sep-03-2012 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by GGM

On the topic of "best ever", it's all subject to opinion but I personally enjoyed this one a lot:


Not the same style of trying to cover everything since the start of all things electronic. Just love the detailed history it gives on stuff that happened during a time I was too young to experience but lead to the music I enjoy today.


Thanks for this - I really enjoyed it.


Posted by loopdokter on Sep-04-2012 16:31:

quote:
Great documentary! But hated how it was so bias to how UK changed the rave scene! Missed out on a bunch.


The UK invented rave, so I'd like to think it's pretty self-explanatory that they 'changed it' as you say. Take any of the raves here in North America in the late 1990s that had 20,000-30,0000 people at them and multiply that by about 6. Although the documentary alluded to it and stood outside of the grounds on which it was held, they never mentioned the rave that changed all raves (and helped bring in the Criminal Justice Act) by name - Castlemorton. The police were literally helpless in shutting it down because it was so massive and any attempt at doing so was deemed to be even a bigger security risk.

Castlemorton was like the Woodstock of the UK rave scene.


Posted by feelgood on Sep-04-2012 19:18:

Watched OP's video last night. Very enjoyable.

Its oversimplification of some aspects was also its virtue. Very easy to watch and listen to.

Like OP said, love or hate Guetta, he's definitely giving off the impression that he just loves dance music!


Posted by GGM on Sep-04-2012 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Thanks for this - I really enjoyed it.


NP and thanks for starting the thread. Some really good watching material came of it.


Posted by GGM on Sep-04-2012 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
Thanks for this - I really enjoyed it.


NP and thanks for starting the thread. Some really good watching material came of it.


Posted by GGM on Sep-17-2012 20:10:

Looks like the Dutch are tossing their 2 cents into it...


Posted by StereoPrincess on Sep-19-2012 13:23:

There is a big lash back at this doc.

British DJs are saying it missed a lot of things.

http://www.mixmag.net/words/news/gr...entary-populist

As well as Sasha tweeting:



And really an English club doc doesn't mention Hacienda? WHAT?


Posted by Skipper on Sep-21-2012 01:20:

What? Maybe I am thinking of another doc, but I thought Hacienda was in there. I can picture the video footage in my head.


Posted by Skipper on Sep-21-2012 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by GGM
Looks like the Dutch are tossing their 2 cents into it...



Some amazing shots in there! The dutch certainly have something to say and rightly so IMO


Posted by Mach X on Sep-21-2012 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
What? Maybe I am thinking of another doc, but I thought Hacienda was in there. I can picture the video footage in my head.


Tons of references to the Hacienda, but nothing ON the Hacienda specifically.


Posted by geroin on Sep-21-2012 02:00:

http://www.gregwilson.co.uk/2012/09...nged-the-world/

pretty much agree with a lot greg wilson says about this doc.

ps. Love Saves the Day: A History of American Dance Music Culture, 1970-1979 (the book greg mentiones in his blog is actually pretty amazing. was able to grab a copy for around 25 bucks sometime ago.)


Posted by cb_32 on Sep-23-2012 06:29:

i believe the docu could have gone into more details instead of spending time talking about guetta an skrilly


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Sep-23-2012 15:11:

I enjoyed the Richie Hawtin documentary more than the video that is the subject of this thread (probably for one because I'm not a fan of house proper so an in-depth history of that kind of sound doesn't interest me much). I do, though, appreciate the admission/celebration of the fact that MDMA played a significant role in the rise of the club culture (rather than, for example, shying away from this fact as if it's something of which to be ashamed).


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