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Originally posted by wookieslut yea i think trance is crap at the moment. armin is the only dj i know thast playing new songs and he usually throws in the same stuff over and over probably because he cant find any new goood tracks to fill his show. i think trance is getting boring, its not fun to dance to, its not good party music in the u.s.a., is often difficult to mix harmony wise, and is overall frustrating for a dj. i like progressive house/trance better. its alot better sounding on the decks and people enjoy it more at parties. i also think alot of you people here are tools and dont even know what you like.

Hrmmm.. so basically what you are saying is that you moved to more progressive stuff because you cant mix trance?

I think most of the Top DJs just dont have or make the time to pick out quality music anymore.. most of them are just sent promos and they spin them. Good trance is out there.. you just have to find it

peace

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Originally posted by DJ Sinergy Hrmmm.. so basically what you are saying is that you moved to more progressive stuff because you cant mix trance? I think most of the Top DJs just dont have or make the time to pick out quality music anymore.. most of them are just sent promos and they spin them. Good trance is out there.. you just have to find it peace

no i can mix trance but it is boring and im getting tired of it. i am now mixing jungle. i dont even know why im responding to this since i dont give a shit

Trance is NOT DEAD...never died. The music press has claimed for yrs that it's dead, never died. Major Clubs spinning trance, major deejays spinning trance, trance cd's and compilations are selling well. It's not dead.

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Originally posted by a-aplz Exactly! Like I have mentioned before on another thread like this..it was posted by somebody in the US where not many people understand or know trance. Move to Europe, and trance is everywhere.

thats my problem exactly...i'm stuck in the midwest in a bunch of cornfields and the closest major cities are chicago and indianapolis....and since i'm 15 and all the big djs like pvd decided to go to over 21 clubs, the only rave ive been able to go to is sasha and digweed last year......i want to move to holland

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Originally posted by wookieslut no i can mix trance but it is boring and im getting tired of it. i am now mixing jungle. i dont even know why im responding to this since i dont give a shit

haha.. sorry... just the way it originally came out it sounded funny... I wasn't trying to stir up shit.. please dont take my sense of humour wrong.....

peace

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Originally posted by sherman i want to move to holland

Lets move there Mr. Sherman.

All I know is that I can't stand any non-trance electronic music.

i think i trance is prolly gonna go underground.. i mean for some reason i want that to happen.. its sorta like breakdancing. okay in the 80's it was everywhere and now its like not really big. theres like now breaking scene at my school. and for some reason i like that. sincee im like the only breaker. cuz i hate people doing the same thing as me. i like to be different from everyone else with their skateboards and punk clothes... ughhh.

trannce is sooo the best. but i must admit there is allot of crappy trance.. i dunno bout you guys but something i cant stand is that really dumb is anthem trance and like happy hardcore.. that stuff is major poo.. i think people misunderstand trance because of this.. cuz all their hearing is like fragma and darude..

If trance was dying we wouldn't be here talking about it.

Cheers,

Arbiter

Nuff said!

Trance songs are increasingly sounding more and more alike


heh heh ... yeah because trance is COMMERCIAL (well, some of it is anyways)! just look to pvd post for an angel e-werk club mix. and compare it to LSG's the hive (which has a bit more creativity to it).

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Originally posted by DJ Sinergy Good trance is out there.. you just have to find it peace

good trance = pole folder - planetary activity

Well, if you have asked that question 3 months ago...I may have answered:"About to die"...but now, I certainly know that it's not dying. A hell a lot of QUALIFIED music has being released lately....and is being released.

But I agree with the guys who say you location is very important. For expample im my country TRANCE IS DEAD...I know it !!! The reason is it's so hard to mix and my country doens't have really really qualified djs, or they may just be LAZY !!!


Moving to Holland is a very good idea but learing the language and all that stuff(job, school...ect) makes it sound more like a fantasy rather than an IDEA.

If trance dies, there are people like us, who will make it live again...I'm sure(I'm not talking about the cheezzy thing here)Trance gets boring with the cheezy stuff and this misleads the media and the other people who aren't into trance.


Also another guy said that he would like TRANCE to go underground....so I would. I also want to be different to other people:in fact I want to recognize my TRANCER friends as soon as I see them. It would be much easier to communicate , and we'll live in peace...ha ha ha...

Yeah it's another fact that dj's don't really play new stuff...but I seem to understand their problem: THEY DON'T EARN enough to buy new records...or they think:"if theses people say -->Trance sounds the same,it all again the chords and the same beats<---- WHY SHOULD I BUY NEW RECORDS....I can buy myself a new pair of shoes.....


Yeah...that's the thing about trance,all about feelings,I'm happy that trance is not dead....

Greetz
Dj Ahter

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Originally posted by Dj Ahter Well, if you have asked that question 3 months ago...I may have answered:"About to die"...but now, I certainly know that it's not dying. A hell a lot of QUALIFIED music has being released lately....and is being released. But I agree with the guys who say you location is very important. For expample im my country TRANCE IS DEAD...I know it !!! The reason is it's so hard to mix and my country doens't have really really qualified djs, or they may just be LAZY !!! Moving to Holland is a very good idea but learing the language and all that stuff(job, school...ect) makes it sound more like a fantasy rather than an IDEA. If trance dies, there are people like us, who will make it live again...I'm sure(I'm not talking about the cheezzy thing here)Trance gets boring with the cheezy stuff and this misleads the media and the other people who aren't into trance. Also another guy said that he would like TRANCE to go underground....so I would. I also want to be different to other people:in fact I want to recognize my TRANCER friends as soon as I see them. It would be much easier to communicate , and we'll live in peace...ha ha ha... Yeah it's another fact that dj's don't really play new stuff...but I seem to understand their problem: THEY DON'T EARN enough to buy new records...or they think:"if theses people say -->Trance sounds the same,it all again the chords and the same beats<---- WHY SHOULD I BUY NEW RECORDS....I can buy myself a new pair of shoes..... Yeah...that's the thing about trance,all about feelings,I'm happy that trance is not dead.... Greetz Dj Ahter

So know that you are the one who is going to make it live

Greetz,
Dj Ahter

Trance is very much alive.

The only thing I would agree on is that the calibre of tracks these days has gone down significantly due to there being a lack of motivation amongst some producers to be unique - some are still trying to hang on to the elements that made their past productions a success without realizing that the electronic landscape is no longer as it once was.

Lots of labels still sign tons of shitty "cookie-cutter" tracks that don't get any airtime - and then there are quality tracks that get no distribution and nobody gets a chance to hear only because they don't have the right connections.

People still have a desire to listen to quality trance - the problem is that compilations rarely ever do the job - and some of the ignorant 'veteran' electronic music listeners feel that when someone who is new to the scene picks up one of these and feels they know all about trance that they are somehow lessened in their 'musical' tastes and go on to say they prefer other genres in order to distance themselves from their 'newbie' friend(s). (mmmmmm.. what a run-on sentence)

Trance is NOT dying !
Just wait and see who'll be at the top of "Top 100 DJs" later this year.

It will be Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk, Armin Van Buuren and Paul Oakenfold.
With at least 4 out of top 10 DJs being Trance DJs, how can you say that Trance is dying?


Or consider Ibiza - clubbing capital of the world. Thursdays at Amnesia headlined by Tiesto and PVD is one of the most famous club nights in Ibiza. "Judgement Sundays" at Eden with Judge and Ferry Corsten is also very popular.

trance dying, stop scaring me with this stuff... almost gave me a heart attack at the age of 18 lol

Trance isn't dying. It's just evolving.

DJ Nuclear

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Approximately posted by Vesa This question can be discussed from this and that angle and no-one is able to predict trends; musical possibilities of trance (as an art form outside of clubs); something about melodic producers and experiments that Rank 1 has been making together with DJ Misjah on Smash Trax, or the stuff that Huinink & Lammers were producing before they moved away from melodic trance. You can also see the possibilities of trance when you look back at yadda yadda Magiks and then Armin's Boundaries Of Imagination. But after the trance boom, producers did this and that and the absolute possibilities of trance, which are almost endless. If there was a new trance boom with lots of effort from innovative new producers, trance would very likely develop much further than we can currently imagine. Besides, there is no-one stopping trance producers from haggida-haggida blabidy-blah something as complex as this post.

But silly mockery of good posts aside (My brain is cooked and giddy from a depressingly stressful workday, so don't mind me), I'd love some full names of tracks that demonstrate your point about innovative trance producers and their revolutionary expreiments. It'd be great to check 'em out.

It's true, there's a lot of rehashing going on now, and that's always dangerous. In my own tracks I try to break rules here and there, which is hard to do without "diluting the potion" if you know what I mean. (click on the signature for an example...)

no, it wont die it will simply evolve.....

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Originally posted by djdawn For me the biggest change came with the end of the "real" hardtrance (now called Rave) around '96/'97. Tunes weren't produced at 160+ bpm anymore (for whatever reason, I still don't understand).

Ah... those were good times... My first tunes were "rave" tunes...

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Originally posted by USMC_Greg All I know is that I can't stand any non-trance electronic music.

And that's reason enough for trance not to die.

i think the "elite" tranceaddicts would love to see trance go underground. They wouldn't have to complain about "CHEESE" or "commercial" trance anymore. It's better for you anyways hehe

I think it's a different situation here in north america than it is in europe.. here it seems like trance has remained with the same popularity for quite some time. Definately progressive is becoming more popular, but i dont really think it is converting trance fans over.

like other people have said, trance isnt dying but is evolving. and so far I like the route it's taking.

no

no, trance is not dying, it is huge in japan, that's why ayumi hamasaki is releasing so many trance albums

and IMHO trance is still big in uk, and house has been dead for 10 years already. that's why M People are not selling anymore :-< (i used to like M People)

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