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Posted by Igaryok on Sep-16-2012 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Banora
Here you go. Watch this video first for proper Danish, then listen to my hick Danish.





Record and upload voice >>


I like your voice, it's uhh... relaxing

quote:
Originally posted by Vector A

Depuis quand �tudiez-vous le fran�ais ?


I've actually been learning it on and off for a long time. Started about 12 years ago in 9th grade, but didn't pay attention in the class, so that was a waste. Started learning on my own about 6 months ago. It's a very difficult language for me to learn for some reason, especially the pronunciations. The best thing to do is probably move to some French speaking region because I learned English that way in less than a year. Although, English seems to be a lot easier.


Posted by Trance-M on Sep-16-2012 19:22:

Dutch, German, English.
French a little and tiny bit Italian and Spanish, although those last two maybe aren't worth mentioning.


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-16-2012 20:25:

Well obviously slovenian, then english (though i have a bad accent that i picked up from watching too much american tv) and serbian, im currently relearning german since i forgot most of it (know enough to get around though) while also learning french (its going surprisingly well).

Im also patiently waiting for Lira to provide that "hangul for idiots" lesson since i also want to pick up an asian language or two after im comfortable enough with german and french to be able to hold a conversation.


Posted by Chimney on Sep-16-2012 21:34:

Can't hear any difference. Danish is all the same. But her voice is sexy.


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Sep-16-2012 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Banora
Here you go. Watch this video first for proper Danish, then listen to my hick Danish.





Record and upload voice >>


The Scandanavian lanugages sound incredibly difficult to me, let alone to read and make a fairly educated guess at pronouncing it. But I find it interesting how Scandanavians all seem to understand one another's language.


Posted by Banora on Sep-16-2012 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Igaryok
I like your voice, it's uhh... relaxing


Cheers! I wish I had kept the voice recordings from the 'what is your accent' thread. :/

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Your Danish > The Danish on that video


Haha, cheers!

quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
The Scandanavian lanugages sound incredibly difficult to me, let alone to read and make a fairly educated guess at pronouncing it. But I find it interesting how Scandanavians all seem to understand one another's language.


Hah, actually I think most of it sounds incredibly close to English!

For example:
Vil du komme til klassen i morgen?

Online recording software >>

Hvor kommer du fra?

Record and upload voice >>

Kan du hj�lpe mig?

Audio recording software >>

Danmark er et lille land

Record audio or upload mp3 >>

You can sound that out and figure out what is being said. When you hear it, it sounds very close to English!


Posted by Lira on Sep-16-2012 22:19:

The guide will be ready this month, Miha, I promise
quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
The Scandanavian lanugages sound incredibly difficult to me, let alone to read and make a fairly educated guess at pronouncing it. But I find it interesting how Scandanavians all seem to understand one another's language.

That's because the definition of "language" is incredibly loose. If Americans suddenly decided to call their language "American", someone like Lews who speaks North American English and South African English would then be able to say he doesn't just speak two variants of the same language, but two distinct languages ("English" and "American" in this case).

Danish/Swedish/Norwegian share a lot more in common than some of the Chinese "dialects", which are actually completely different languages (such as Mandarin and Cantonese). Mind you, there's no clear-cut division between what's a dialect and what's a language, although mutual intelligibility is expected from two speakers of the same language - mind you, this is not always possible and/or easy to define: Germans living near the Dutch border can speak Dutch just fine, although they can't understand "Swiss German" just as clearly; on the other hand, someone from Munich can't understand Dutch (reason why they're considered distinct languages)... see how complicated it gets after a while?

Long story short, they're closer to being dialects of the same language, but we call them distinct languages because they're spoken in countries that would rather see their languages that way.


Posted by Lira on Sep-16-2012 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Banora
Haha, cheers!

Really, it sounds so cute

By the way, can you understand any Dutch? A Dutch friend says she can understand some Danish, so I wonder whether it goes both ways.

I know for a fact that, although Chimney can understand me perfectly well, I can't understand Romanian not even if you hold me at gun point...


Posted by Chimney on Sep-16-2012 22:27:

I lived in Sk�ne in Sweden, which borders Denmark. Over there, people talk Swedish with a thick Danish accent. Sounds absolutely horrid. Everyone in the rest of the country hates "sk�ningar".

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I can't understand Romanian not even if you hold me at gun point...


I think French and Romanian are the most difficult of the latin languages, especially since we've got Slavic influences and tons of irregular verbs.


Posted by Lira on Sep-16-2012 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
I think French and Romanian are the most difficult of the latin languages, especially since we've got Slavic influences and tons of irregular verbs.

Actually, French is a lot easier for me to understand (and that's the only reason I guess I was able to pretend I spoke it when I craved for some coffee in the airport ). I'm not sure if, to the average European, Portuguese is easier than French - whether or not a language is difficult depends on your mother language, after all. We use more verb tenses in the everyday language, our pronominal system changed quite substantially here in Brazil, and fewer words that made their way to the English language. But, I could be wrong... it's not like there's a good way to independently measure these things anyway.

Funnily enough, Portuguese speakers usually have the opposite problem with Spanish: We can understand Spanish quite well, but they can't make head nor tails of what we say most of the time. It's probably because we dropped lots of consonants, and make loads of distinctions they don't perceive.


Posted by Banora on Sep-16-2012 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Really, it sounds so cute

By the way, can you understand any Dutch? A Dutch friend says she can understand some Danish, so I wonder whether it goes both ways.




Actually, yes, I can pick out words in Dutch! A lot of times I can read Dutch and get the gist of it, but Dutchies talk to quickly and their accents are so heavy that I have trouble understanding them. I was with a group of Dutch guys back in April after a festival, and they were talking about the girls at the festival and who they wanted to bang in the car ride we were sharing, and I couldn't stop giggling at the stuff I was catching.

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
I lived in Sk�ne in Sweden, which borders Denmark. Over there, people talk Swedish with a thick Danish accent. Sounds absolutely horrid. Everyone in the rest of the country hates "sk�ningar".


At least it wasn't the fucked up dialect of Bornholm... which really should be considered another language.


Posted by Alex on Sep-16-2012 22:50:

English and French.


Posted by Intellekshual on Sep-16-2012 23:42:

If dialects count, I also speak about 8 Arabic dialects, and a language called Berber: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_languages


Posted by EddieZilker on Sep-17-2012 00:12:

I speak English and used to be able to speak enough Spanish to find my way around an Italian restaurant's kitchen.


Posted by Lira on Sep-17-2012 01:07:

I guess we learned an important lesson from Banora: Don't ever take from granted the fact that foreigners can't understand what you're saying
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Originally posted by Intellekshual
If dialects count, I also speak about 8 Arabic dialects, and a language called Berber: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_languages

Dialects should definitely count, as long as they differ substantially from one another.

Actually, this is something I'd like to understand: Speaking Moroccan Arabic would I be able to talk to an Egyptian without any knowledge whatsoever of Classical Arabic? How about the other way around? Are the "dialects" just like the different variants of English, or are they more like French, Italian, and Portuguese?


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Sep-17-2012 02:08:

Man, I just had the most fucked up experience. I had coffee with someone who didn't understand me and vice versa, yet we understood each other in some caveman sort of way. She's hot too, I must find a way to make it happen. My guess is cue cards or ear piece.


Posted by Lira on Sep-17-2012 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
She's hot too, I must find a way to make it happen.

You're in. I've seen this happen loads of times


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Sep-17-2012 03:56:

*Fist pumps*

I certainly hope so.

They are so tiny, i really don't know how that is going to work. I'll make it work of course, but still


Posted by Yohan on Sep-17-2012 06:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
*Fist pumps*

I certainly hope so.

They are so tiny, i really don't know how that is going to work. I'll make it work of course, but still
pulling out your wang is not a linguistic maneuver


Posted by Yohan on Sep-17-2012 06:17:

I speak English, Engrish, Korean, Konglish, passable French, Franglais, bit of Persian/Dari


Posted by pointPi on Sep-17-2012 07:12:

Swedish
English
Currently trying to retrieve my German vocabulary
Planning to one day start learning Japanese


Posted by Moongoose on Sep-17-2012 07:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Banora
Cheers! I wish I had kept the voice recordings from the 'what is your accent' thread. :/



Haha, cheers!



Hah, actually I think most of it sounds incredibly close to English!

For example:
Vil du komme til klassen i morgen?

Online recording software >>

Hvor kommer du fra?

Record and upload voice >>

Kan du hj�lpe mig?

Audio recording software >>

Danmark er et lille land

Record audio or upload mp3 >>

You can sound that out and figure out what is being said. When you hear it, it sounds very close to English!


Well those few examples look quite similar to other languages...to me they actually look like as if a very drunk german tried to write something in english. Something clearly different but similar enough to other stuff you know that you could get the gist of it.




quote:
Originally posted by Lira
The guide will be ready this month, Miha, I promise


Its OK really, i would rather have something take time and be done well than be done quickly and feel rushed


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Sep-17-2012 11:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
pulling out your wang is not a linguistic maneuver


it is if she licks it.


Posted by Intellekshual on Sep-17-2012 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Actually, this is something I'd like to understand: Speaking Moroccan Arabic would I be able to talk to an Egyptian without any knowledge whatsoever of Classical Arabic? How about the other way around? Are the "dialects" just like the different variants of English, or are they more like French, Italian, and Portuguese?

Let's chat on FB about this. Otherwise it will be a huuuge post and I can't be arsed to write much at the moment.


Posted by Dj Skez on Sep-17-2012 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
I speak English and used to be able to speak enough Spanish to find my way around an Italian restaurant's kitchen.


"Yeah, you got 50 Puerto Ricans in the kitchen! Yeah, that's authentic Italian." - Brian Griffin "

I'm fluent in English, Hood Ebonics,Albanian Serbian-Croatian,and fully understand Spanish and some Italian but can't hold a conversation more than 5 minutes with Dominicans, their dialect is fuckin crazy que lo que , diablo...etc etc.. What the fuck did I write last night.


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