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Posted by Lira on Nov-27-2012 21:55:

Don't push it, Enydo, please. I said I'll stop, and I really don't want to derail another thread. If you want to continue this conversation, please bump the previous one.


Posted by enydo on Nov-27-2012 21:58:

Fine. I have to go visit my dealer, oh I'm sorry, PUSHER, anyways. He just got in a brand new shipment from Mexico. It's horrible ditch-weed, but damn I just love funding them.


Posted by srussell0018 on Nov-27-2012 21:59:

It's still pretty obvious that almost 100% of cocaine in the US is not grown in the US, and thus is either brought through Mexico, or flown in directly.


Posted by jonSun on Nov-27-2012 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
It's still pretty obvious that almost 100% of cocaine in the US is not grown in the US, and thus is either brought through Mexico, or flown in directly.


Yea that's obvious but im just still shocked anyone smokes mexican weed.


Posted by justin on Nov-27-2012 22:26:

Support trance not drugas


Posted by Lira on Nov-27-2012 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
Fine. I have to go visit my dealer, oh I'm sorry, PUSHER

I read you're post and its obviously that your a puffer.


Posted by Adam420 on Nov-28-2012 00:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
You come here and have your significant other kidnapped by a drug gang before you fucking tell me to fuck off! Being held at gunpoint is really fun, I bet.

Come, let's see how you like that when it strikes fucking close to home!


Your fiancee was kidnapped?


Posted by Adam420 on Nov-28-2012 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
Yea that's obvious but im just still shocked anyone smokes mexican weed.


Poor people probably do


Posted by Chimney on Nov-28-2012 00:30:

Am I the only one who doesn't do drugs/drink regularly? Like 1-2 times a year? :|


Posted by sensorium on Nov-28-2012 00:32:

Somewhat familiar with the story.

It's unfortunate that cartels don't have a moral compass. Like I mentioned in the other thread, having the drugs in ballot, and now approved in some states, will cause a change in Mexico. They are constantly fighting for keeping their respective routes and creating new ones while mini-cartels emerge.

More halcones than ever. More deaths every day. Maria Santos did what few will ever do, stand up to the corrupt. The result will always be punishment if you stand up for what is right. Don't get in their way.

It would be interesting to see how PRI (party to run the country for the next 6 years) approaches this cartel situation. Some argue that they will create some type of deal to minimize the killings, as it was before Calderon. Giving the history of the PRI, I'm guessing there will be more negotiations going on under the table. It will be clearer in the next couple of months with the Mexican George Bush.

If only this forum had more members with substance, not the one you guys make or buy but the one that makes you a better citizen, people like Lira wouldn't have to suffer convincing you of what is obvious. But the discussion at this level.


Posted by Adam420 on Nov-28-2012 00:36:

Imagine the cartels try to invade the U.S. and kidnap politicians and force them to make weed illegal again? I feel like they're almost crazy enough to do that.


Posted by Lews on Nov-28-2012 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
Am I the only one who doesn't do drugs/drink regularly? Like 1-2 times a year? :|


I'd say it's a fair statement that about half the people on this board are functioning alcoholics.


Posted by Dj Skez on Nov-28-2012 01:56:

Unfortunately, this is just another victim of the very powerful Mexican Cartel. She sacrificed her life so no harm can come to her daughter at the spur of the moment. The D.E.A has had more agents murdered than any other Federal Law Enforcement Branch in the United States trying to stop the ongoing war on drugs. There's been well documented cases which accused the C.I.A. of funding the Cartels in South America. Just more corruption in our government.


Posted by Sleightful on Nov-28-2012 02:38:

Wonder what effect legalizing marijuana would have on this. Would the cartels get pushier as more legal grow ops begin sprouting throughout the US or would it serve to curb the violence in Mexico? Guess there'll always be a demand for the harder stuff anyway.


Posted by Lira on Nov-28-2012 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
If only this forum had more members with substance, not the one you guys make or buy but the one that makes you a better citizen, people like Lira wouldn't have to suffer convincing you of what is obvious. But the discussion at this level.

Tell me about it. But you know what, I'm tired.

I don't mind the divide you can see in this thread between those who come from south of Rio Grande (you, me, rdevito) and everyone else. We live this problem, they don't, so it's only natural we're more attuned to it. But after a couple of fuck off's, it's hard to even feel motivated to keep posting/arguing/debating. When I last raised this point, I could at least get sane replies like this one:
quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
It would be simpler to just legalize drugs here. With the availability of far more cost-efficient distribution channels the black market wouldn't be able to compete and would be driven out of business in true capitalist fashion.

Which is quite reasonable if you know what goes on around here (not surprising, given how Arbiter is well travelled). Now I'm being told that computer chips are just as bad as cocaine in the other thread.

Deprimente


Posted by Lira on Nov-28-2012 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Sleightful
Wonder what effect legalizing marijuana would have on this. Would the cartels get pushier as more legal grow ops begin sprouting throughout the US or would it serve to curb the violence in Mexico? Guess there'll always be a demand for the harder stuff anyway.

I don't like citing the same source twice but here's an article by the Economist. If anything, legalising marijuana seems to have a good impact on Mexico.


Posted by Zharen on Nov-28-2012 03:14:


Posted by Sleightful on Nov-28-2012 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I don't like citing the same source twice but here's an article by the Economist. If anything, legalising marijuana seems to have a good impact on Mexico.


That's a good read. Only problem I see is the cartels getting desperate as their money runs thin.


Posted by Adam420 on Nov-28-2012 04:28:

Lira have you played Max Payne 3?


Posted by justin on Nov-28-2012 04:50:

Wrong forum


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Nov-28-2012 04:58:

IIRC a while back some guys running for president in mexico hinted that they'd like to shift the drug policy towards reducing violence instead of stemming drug flow to the US. i also recall some ppl here getting nervous abt the idea. i think it would be a good idea, actually.

even if the violence gets pushed to the US, as regrettable as that would be, i think it might have a positive long term impact. once ppl start dying in violent drug-gang clashes here on american soil, i think (and hope!) public, and therefore political, sentiment would shift towards legalization. but then again, who knows how middle america would react


Posted by Vivid Boy on Nov-28-2012 05:07:

Mexicans always have a choice. My fence is still unpainted


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Nov-28-2012 05:11:

There is no solution to any of this. Telling a junkie to quit buying drugs, just isn't going to work.

China is a bit funny. While everything is very very illegal here, China is the leading manufacturer and exporter of all of the precursors necessary to process/make some of these.

I think it is just Mexicans that are loco. Canada has become a huge producer of weed and synthetic illegals...yet Prime Minister Harper has never been raped by a mariachi band.

God and clods, the have vs the have nots are the problem. With poverty so rampant in Mexico, the catalyst is there for violence even without drugs. If it wasn't drugs it would be something else that makes the impoverished do crazy things.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Nov-28-2012 05:13:

I heard in Cuba they are so poor, women will sleep with you just for a piece of candy. I booked a trip for the day after Halloween


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Nov-28-2012 05:30:

some cuban women are crazy hot.


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