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Posted by EddieZilker on Jan-05-2013 22:11:

I long for the days when hipsters were scarce and Twilo Thunder reigned supreme.


Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-06-2013 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
Are there any club tracks in that list? Could James Holden have any sort of DJ career by playing music from his list?

I'm sorry he just sounds pretentious as fuck.


Talk about pot, meet kettle.


Posted by djnitride on Jan-06-2013 04:32:

Its interesting the way Holden talks about the "english progressive scene" basically calling the music he had to make for it "in a box". Compared to alot of other dance music the stuff from that era seems like it had a diverse amount flavor to it.

From Breeder - Tyrantanic (Slackers Kingdom Come Remix) to Tijuana - Groove is in the Air (Simon's Future Dreams Mix) it seems like there is a good diversity compared to say modern day Trance which basically just comes down to an exact formula with almost no room to differentiate yourself from the next guy.

Yes, prog does have a general structure/formula it follows but what really made it great was the combination of that with the number of producers doing different things with it. The tracks I have listened to set them apart from each other, its rare I listen to a Digweed set and hear something that just sounds like it has no individuality. Really I don't think its even so much about "prog" itself but the DJs who play it and the fans that listen to it generally speaking hold higher standards.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-06-2013 12:41:

No, the early '00s progressive sound was not very varied at all.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Jan-06-2013 13:13:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Incidentally, the other half of Ogenki Clinic is a guy called Gwill Morris (who was also in Main Element, etc.) and he's also the resident at a classics night called Plasma Future in Manchester. He plays a lot of Holden and Silver Planet, so if you want to hear the twinkly Holden prog sound on a dancefloor, go see Gwill Morris instead. He's very good at what he does, too.


What is the crowd like there?

Very local and I would not mind going to it, but if it's like a few of the last classic trance nights (either full of shirtless roid monkeys) or has 3 people in, if not sure it's worth the hangover.


Posted by Kilixpree on Jan-06-2013 13:26:

weird list, i only know one track

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsabvPfkLfM

JAMES HOLDEN!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-06-2013 14:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
What is the crowd like there?

Very local and I would not mind going to it, but if it's like a few of the last classic trance nights (either full of shirtless roid monkeys) or has 3 people in, if not sure it's worth the hangover.


Good crowd, mostly veterans from Gatecrasher and Cream. No knuckle-heads and a good atmosphere.

Where do you live, anyway?


Posted by enydo on Jan-06-2013 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
No, the early '00s progressive sound was not very varied at all.


This sums it up. I love the stuff, but it's all brooding basslines and ominous stabs. Has gotten very old for me, at least, over time.


Posted by fredjan on Jan-07-2013 03:17:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
...it seems like there is a good diversity compared to say modern day Trance which basically just comes down to an exact formula with almost no room to differentiate yourself from the next guy.

Like progressive psytrance?
I don't disagree, btw.


Posted by djnitride on Jan-07-2013 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by fredjan
Like progressive psytrance?
I don't disagree, btw.


I can't really call myself an expert in either genre but I am more familiar with the late 90s/early 2000s prog sound. Most of the progressive psytrance I have listened to sounded the same, but I may have been looking in the wrong places. Most of what I found wasn't through established DJ's but digging through beatport.

Btw I don't really consider the "J00F" sound progressive psytrance


Posted by fredjan on Jan-07-2013 03:51:

quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
Most of the progressive psytrance I have listened to sounded the same, but I may have been looking in the wrong places. Most of what I found wasn't through established DJ's but digging through beatport.

Same here.
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJjAPAcDb28
All the tracks have wicked atmospheres and slick production; however, they also sound similar to each other.


Posted by euphoria on Jan-07-2013 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J so if you want to hear the twinkly Holden prog sound on a dancefloor, go see Gwill Morris instead. He's very good at what he does, too.


Yes!


Posted by Lews on Jan-08-2013 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
This sums it up. I love the stuff, but it's all brooding basslines and ominous stabs. Has gotten very old for me, at least, over time.


BLASPHEMY.


Posted by enydo on Jan-08-2013 00:36:

I still listen to a ton of it while running or working out, but in terms of casual listening... IT'S IN THE PAST.


Posted by Lews on Jan-08-2013 00:41:

Fucking heretic. It's like I don't even know you.


Posted by MSZ on Jan-08-2013 01:00:


Posted by enydo on Jan-08-2013 01:03:


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-08-2013 01:16:


Posted by Lews on Jan-08-2013 01:18:


Posted by enydo on Jan-08-2013 01:21:


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-08-2013 01:21:

STOKED UP.


Posted by MSZ on Jan-08-2013 01:33:


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-08-2013 01:39:

This thread goes down so well with what I've been smoking.


Posted by Guest on Jan-08-2013 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This thread goes down so well with what I've been smoking.


And what is that?


Posted by Lagrangian on Jan-08-2013 01:42:

I'm sorry, and what on god's name has any of you twats produced that has inspired an array of trance enthusiasts from around the world?

Enydo, System-J, em that Idiot from the East Coast?

Nothing! You sloths feast on the music of others and moan when it doesn't taste like...Sweets. You're all like fat obese kids playing WoW on Adderall (that's totally fine if you do); but, at the very least, appreciate the work of those who live outside of the RA Forums.

So what if he's an elitist, you don't need to approve of his workt, it's ok ... The rest of us LUCKY ones believe in INDIVIDUALITY and value INGENUITY or just plain ARROGANCE. You think Peter Townshend gave two shits about what critics thought of him? about his 'bell-boy' records? Do you think New Order cared what the Jews thought of their affinity with third reich? Cabaret Voltaire?

PLEASE KINDLY FUCK YOU, JAMES HOLDEN IS KING! ALL HAIL THE KING!!


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