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I long for the days when hipsters were scarce and Twilo Thunder reigned supreme.
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| Originally posted by Guest Are there any club tracks in that list? Could James Holden have any sort of DJ career by playing music from his list? I'm sorry he just sounds pretentious as fuck. |
Its interesting the way Holden talks about the "english progressive scene" basically calling the music he had to make for it "in a box". Compared to alot of other dance music the stuff from that era seems like it had a diverse amount flavor to it.
From Breeder - Tyrantanic (Slackers Kingdom Come Remix) to Tijuana - Groove is in the Air (Simon's Future Dreams Mix) it seems like there is a good diversity compared to say modern day Trance which basically just comes down to an exact formula with almost no room to differentiate yourself from the next guy.
Yes, prog does have a general structure/formula it follows but what really made it great was the combination of that with the number of producers doing different things with it. The tracks I have listened to set them apart from each other, its rare I listen to a Digweed set and hear something that just sounds like it has no individuality. Really I don't think its even so much about "prog" itself but the DJs who play it and the fans that listen to it generally speaking hold higher standards.
No, the early '00s progressive sound was not very varied at all.
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Incidentally, the other half of Ogenki Clinic is a guy called Gwill Morris (who was also in Main Element, etc.) and he's also the resident at a classics night called Plasma Future in Manchester. He plays a lot of Holden and Silver Planet, so if you want to hear the twinkly Holden prog sound on a dancefloor, go see Gwill Morris instead. He's very good at what he does, too. |
weird list, i only know one track
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsabvPfkLfM
JAMES HOLDEN!
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| Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 What is the crowd like there? Very local and I would not mind going to it, but if it's like a few of the last classic trance nights (either full of shirtless roid monkeys) or has 3 people in, if not sure it's worth the hangover. |
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J No, the early '00s progressive sound was not very varied at all. |
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| Originally posted by djnitride ...it seems like there is a good diversity compared to say modern day Trance which basically just comes down to an exact formula with almost no room to differentiate yourself from the next guy. |
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| Originally posted by fredjan Like progressive psytrance? I don't disagree, btw. |
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| Originally posted by djnitride Most of the progressive psytrance I have listened to sounded the same, but I may have been looking in the wrong places. Most of what I found wasn't through established DJ's but digging through beatport. |
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J so if you want to hear the twinkly Holden prog sound on a dancefloor, go see Gwill Morris instead. He's very good at what he does, too. |
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| Originally posted by enydo This sums it up. I love the stuff, but it's all brooding basslines and ominous stabs. Has gotten very old for me, at least, over time. |
I still listen to a ton of it while running or working out, but in terms of casual listening... IT'S IN THE PAST.
Fucking heretic. It's like I don't even know you.
STOKED UP.
This thread goes down so well with what I've been smoking.
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J This thread goes down so well with what I've been smoking. |
I'm sorry, and what on god's name has any of you twats produced that has inspired an array of trance enthusiasts from around the world?
Enydo, System-J, em that Idiot from the East Coast?
Nothing! You sloths feast on the music of others and moan when it doesn't taste like...Sweets. You're all like fat obese kids playing WoW on Adderall (that's totally fine if you do); but, at the very least, appreciate the work of those who live outside of the RA Forums.
So what if he's an elitist, you don't need to approve of his workt, it's ok ... The rest of us LUCKY ones believe in INDIVIDUALITY and value INGENUITY or just plain ARROGANCE. You think Peter Townshend gave two shits about what critics thought of him? about his 'bell-boy' records? Do you think New Order cared what the Jews thought of their affinity with third reich? Cabaret Voltaire?
PLEASE KINDLY FUCK YOU, JAMES HOLDEN IS KING! ALL HAIL THE KING!!
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