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Posted by DJ Chrono on Aug-31-2003 17:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Maaz
Anyway, I'm taking ninjutsu on Saturdays and I'll probably take Kendo on Sundays...


hey maaz, did u ever end up taking kendo? im seriously looking into taking lessons, and if i like it get all set up with bogu ..

any one else have any kendo experience?


Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-31-2003 17:48:

I know how to rip ur heart out with one punch... the martial arts i got it from is called kickyoass-fu i am the founder i came across it while meditating...


<-----that is our uniform


Posted by AndiH on Aug-31-2003 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Mikado
My sisters been takin Kung fu for years and im so supprised that i can still kick her ass. [...] she has gotten a bit better with ber footing and weight managment but i still own her any one know y?


what style does she do?

also, most kung fu styles rely heavily on punches and kicks so by the time you're wrestling with her she'd probably have hit you in the face with her elbow if you weren't her brother (i hope this makes sense)...


Posted by DjChook on Aug-31-2003 18:00:

I am doing Capoeira for almost a year now... basically for all the Acrobatics and less the Martial art. (Capoeira is full of music and instruments so i like that sh*t as well)...

I want to start learning Tai ? kwon do...

I just didn't get one thing,
A guy here wrote he got to the Red belt in one year.... is that even possible ?


Posted by DR86 on Aug-31-2003 18:25:

I took karate for 4 years and made it up to brown belt, and then I moved.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-31-2003 18:43:

I tried judo once but after the second class and i hadnt learned to rip out a mans heart yet i was a bit turned off so i quit


Posted by mndeg on Aug-31-2003 19:59:

kung fu is actually a style?
i thought it was just a term made by white people to generalize anything involving kicking


Posted by Orbax on Aug-31-2003 20:17:

i took aiki-jujitsu and then realized that my boxing and wrestling beat everyone there but the teacher, so i quit, cuz its bullshit**

edit

plus im wondering how many of you have been in fights. REAL fights, not that bullshit where you push around a bit and someone falls down. im talkin heads smashed into walls, busted knuckles ass kickings.

you realize pretty quick that a fight is about 3 punches and then you are on the ground biting, and gouging eyes, and choking people.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-31-2003 21:18:

Ive been in enough real fights....1 on 1's 2 on 1's and my fav getting jumped by 15 ppl

best thing to do when getting jumped by 15 ppl is stay on ur feet once u fall ur going to er


Posted by trancendental on Aug-31-2003 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
i took aiki-jujitsu and then realized that my boxing and wrestling beat everyone there but the teacher, so i quit, cuz its bullshit**

edit

plus im wondering how many of you have been in fights. REAL fights, not that bullshit where you push around a bit and someone falls down. im talkin heads smashed into walls, busted knuckles ass kickings.

you realize pretty quick that a fight is about 3 punches and then you are on the ground biting, and gouging eyes, and choking people.


Where did you take aiki-jujitsu Orbax? It's a very formidable art. Too bad your experience wasn't as good.


Posted by astroboy on Sep-01-2003 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
kung fu is actually a style?
i thought it was just a term made by white people to generalize anything involving kicking


Kung Fu is a bit of a misnomer. It isn't one martial art, its a collective term for all the (hundreds of) VASTLY different martial arts originating in China... Some popular systems included under teh Kung Fu name are: Wing Chun, Choy Lay Fut, Hung Gar, Baguazhang, Xingyichuan, Taijichuan etc... While Various styles of Karate are also often defined as different styles of one system, this description may be more accurate in the case of karate as most karate styles look quite similar in practice, have common historical roots and are based on similar combat principles. While the various systems originating in China are completely different in theory and in practice, often one system is based on principles that completely contradict teh principles of another system... Many of these systems are historically unrelated too.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Sep-01-2003 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
Kung Fu is a bit of a misnomer. It isn't one martial art, its a collective term for all the (hundreds of) VASTLY different martial arts originating in China... Some popular systems included under teh Kung Fu name are: Wing Chun, Choy Lay Fut, Hung Gar, Baguazhang, Xingyichuan, Taijichuan etc... While Various styles of Karate are also often defined as different styles of one system, this description may be more accurate in the case of karate as most karate styles look quite similar in practice, have common historical roots and are based on similar combat principles. While the various systems originating in China are completely different in theory and in practice, often one system is based on principles that completely contradict teh principles of another system... Many of these systems are historically unrelated too.


yeaah well too much info i just wanna know what style teaches u to rip out a humans heart and show it to him still beating before he dies...


Posted by iranianstud on Sep-01-2003 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RozzeR
Krav Maga ! 3 years Now . Yeah dont fuck


i heard krav maga is one of the quickest ways of learning self defense...is that true? I mean how long before you can handle some drunk guy twice your size?


Posted by Orbax on Sep-01-2003 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by trancendental
Where did you take aiki-jujitsu Orbax? It's a very formidable art. Too bad your experience wasn't as good.


like almost any martial art, although this tought through pain, you will become quite formidable in 10 years or so. on the other hand, learn how to box, and street fight (not just wrestling, submission wrestlin with joint locks and multiple other shitty things) you can be a most formidable opponent in 3-4 years


Posted by torontotrance on Sep-01-2003 02:47:

did kickboxing a few yrs ago

and many many yrs ago...did karate for a while.


Posted by nrjizer on Sep-01-2003 02:55:

I plan on starting Jeet Kune Do soon. I like its philosophy (style of no style, etc), and the emhasis towards real street fighting, instead of fancy useless stuff (another concept: discard what is useless). I mean I watch a lot of other styles and a lot of it seems really impractical to use in a real fight.

And since I bore quickly of jogging and weight lifting, doing martial arts would be EXCELLENT exercise.


Posted by trancendental on Sep-01-2003 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RozzeR
Krav Maga ! 3 years Now . Yeah dont fuck



I hope you don't mean the Krav Maga in the Toronto westend. The instructor is a joke. He practically has no credital to teach an art like this. Less than 2 years experience and 7 years Tae Krap Do.


Posted by DJ Silhouette on Sep-01-2003 05:04:

Took Kung-fu for 11 years. Stopped about 4 years ago. Got kicked out. My teacher found out about a fight that I had, and the other kid was pretty hurt. Even though he alread had a record for fighting. Aside from the circumstances, it's something I regret doing.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Sep-01-2003 15:46:

i used to do backyard wrestling when i was akid...thats as hardcore as it gets man....using ladders and chairs on eachother all for the camera


Posted by Streakfury on Sep-01-2003 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DjChook
I want to start learning Tai ? kwon do...


Tae Kwon Do

quote:
Originally posted by DjChook
I just didn't get one thing,
A guy here wrote he got to the Red belt in one year.... is that even possible ?


It depends what order the belts go in. Different styles have different orders and colours. If he got to red belt in one year (a red in Tang Soo Do is one under black) then a red belt must be quite low in his art. (Unless he trained every day and got super-good real quick!)


Posted by Abject Silver on Sep-01-2003 17:53:

karate-do
chi-to ryu
jui-jitsu
a tae kwon do variation
ving tsun (wing chun for you westerners )

and a tiny bit of a few others.


those are the styles i've done. most recent two being wing chun and chi-to ryu, in which i just got my first degree black this past may.

i've been doing this stuff my whole life. eventually you realize that you're not learning how to fight in a certain style, but you're learning how to fight. that's why i can't help but laugh at TKD kids that think they could flashkick someone in a bar brawl.



oh, btw, kung fu (gung fu), didn't originate in china. bodhidharma taught the basic movements of martial arts to what would become the shaolin somewhere between 420 and 520 ad.


Posted by DjChook on Sep-01-2003 21:20:

thats what i said...

He said the red is below the black, and he got their in a year.

I know that in Capoeira (at least in my group), the belt is not only by your skills, but u have to be a certain amount of time ....


Posted by Chris Crossland on Sep-01-2003 21:37:

I never really took any class's but after i graduate bootcamp (USMC) you know i go on leave then i go to MCT military combat training which would help and then i will pick up ninjutsu and some other forms


Posted by Orbax on Sep-01-2003 21:48:

thats the other bullshit thing. they try to regulate how much time you have to spend on it all. teach me the move, and if I can do it right, teach me the next. You arent the one who practices for me, i do that. If i dont practice that isnt your perogative. but when I learn every move of a white belt in 1 day, and then in 2 weeks im kicking the shit out of other white belts, advance my ass. dont make me wait.

i got sick of the tradition too. its for people who are bored and want something fun to do during the week after work or something. It was a sad day when I sat there with the blue belt and absolutely kicked his ass. like, not even funny how bad he lost. I explained to the sensai that im a fighter and none of these things would help against a fighter who gave you nothing to work with. he said basically, that the normal classes arent for people with fighting experience and that he would teach me privately...kinda blew my mind to hear a 7th degree guy saying that classes are recreational.

no doubt that never in my life will I be able to beat someone as good as him. He was so fast, knew so much shit, and fucked me up quick. but hed been doing it for 20 years or something. its like, im in college NOW. how often during the next 15 years am I gonna fight. during the next 5 probably. Ive never met anyone with that little experience in the martial arts who could even remotely intimidate me. those individuals who were good fighters didnt use the art, they used street fighting when they got in fights.

my whole thing is that its something to devote your life to. and its great. but basically it has to be something you love because of more than just its ability to make you fight, cuz thats way down the road.

i dunno where i am even going with that. but there are some random thoughts on the subject


Posted by astroboy on Sep-02-2003 08:40:

quote:
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oh, btw, kung fu (gung fu), didn't originate in china. bodhidharma taught the basic movements of martial arts to what would become the shaolin somewhere between 420 and 520 ad.


Well... the bodhidarma (damo) story is more of a legend than verifiable historical fact - and it only relates to the Shaolin (Buddhist) martial tradition. Many of the Taoist systems, for example (eg Taijiquan), claim no connection to Shaolin. Most probably gung fu developed in several locations in China at the same time and were shaped by a whole bunch of martial/meditative traditions (Indian Mongolian tibettan etc...). Even if you subscribe to the traditional Damo legend, it says he taught the monks a set of exercises to improve their health, these later developed into combat techniques as the monks had to defend themselves against bandits - so gungfu as we know it today did originate in China.


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