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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney A what ? I'm sorry if i upset you. I just wish you would be smarter with your buys.

How on earth can you hurt my feelings? This is the internet. The only way you could hurt my feelings is by telling me you were dying or something because you know I have a soft spot for you.

As for my purchases, you seem to forget that I was buying, using and gigging with hardware when you were still playing with lego (you know, the first time round). I still have hardware now, combined with an extremely extensive software setup. I'm more than aware of the pro's and con's of each, and actually want to own more hardware. I like it and I enjoy it. Your borderline vulcan need to be logical and practical has no relevance on my decisions. And as a side note, I have enough money in the bank to buy pretty much whatever I want this side of a full size SSL or Neve desk, but I obviously don't need that. I actually enjoy the process as much as the result.

Oh and Dave, nice

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Originally posted by cryophonik A live engineer friend of mine had a Yamaha multi-FX unit back in the day that he swore by (and got incredible live FX with), and I think it may have been the same one that Richard recommended.

The one I had was slightly older model than the one in my link, but I cou;dn't find an image / model details anywhere, but I suspect the one linked to would be similar.

On things like vocals that unit I had was just unbeatable - this was some time back when I had lots of hardware and made totally different musak.

I broke it in the end.
The way it thickens things is like no other FX I've ever used.

It was a lot easier to use than the late 90's Roland / Boss multi fx units.

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Originally posted by tehlord Oh and Dave, nice

Now I'm in the market for a 1/2-rack compressor to mate with my SSL. Or, I might sell the Drawmer and get a small-ish (e.g., 6U) lunchbox and fill it with some 500-series toys, but that's a slippery slope, for sure.

Not my pic, but my X-panda is on it's way to join my x-desk
Also chasing a Lexicon MX400XL to patch on send 1&2

Hey Raph, are you going to upgrade your D/A to the benchmark Dac 2

No, AD <> DA is SSL alphalink madiAX

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Originally posted by Raphie No, AD <> DA is SSL alphalink madiAX

Oh cool.

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Originally posted by Juan Paulino Oh cool.

SSL all the way baby if you click on my website and then on the picture, you get my current gearlist

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Originally posted by Raphie SSL all the way baby if you click on my website and then on the picture, you get my current gearlist

How does it sound?

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Originally posted by Juan Paulino How does it sound?

really neutral, with nice saturation when clipping the ADC's had a long DAC journey, from dedicated stereo, benchmark, TCElectronic etc.
But the Alphalink sounds most neutral and open IMHO, the benchmark had a little hifi dip around 200hz, the TC was bright, but not open, for me this is exactly right.

The other slutty thing i bought is an Innerclock SyncGen II Pro, to tame my TT-303, Tempest and all other units that can sync to midi clock
Just learned my Cirklon comes in may and that's it then
DAW less mixing via Cirklon and Genome and all the synths onboard goodies
Mixed on SSL with Lexicon on the send/returns
No AD<>DA conversion during mixdown, analogue all the way. (It's an irrational fetish. I know, but to my ears, it just sounds better)

Damn

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Originally posted by Raphie Not my pic, but my X-panda is on it's way to join my x-desk Also chasing a Lexicon MX400XL to patch on send 1&2

Did you not thing of grabbing a bigger desk with onboard EQ etc? I'd find that quite limiting.

I liked the idea of a GSR24 with motorised faders via firewire and the valve channel but it's just too much money to justify.

I'll end up with either a ZEDR16 or Mackie 1640i. They'll obviously not sound quite as nice as an SSL, but I think the extra features make up for that. For me anyway.

I probably will keep on using cubase for EQ and FX
I'm trying to get full analogue but multichannel eq's are expensive

So first step will be:
Source > Alphalink > desk for mixdown

Stage 2
Source > desk direct outs > Alphalink > desk alt ins for mixdown

The 2nd setup allows me to mix either DAWless or via daw back into mixer
Dawless is the ultimate goal, but i would need at least 6 stereopairs of EQ to setup on inserts. Maybe some dbx shit, dunno yet

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Originally posted by Raphie Not my pic, but my X-panda is on it's way to join my x-desk Also chasing a Lexicon MX400XL to patch on send 1&2

Oh, you dirty little slut!

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Originally posted by Raphie I probably will keep on using cubase for EQ and FX I'm trying to get full analogue but multichannel eq's are expensive So first step will be: Source > Alphalink > desk for mixdown Stage 2 Source > desk direct outs > Alphalink > desk alt ins for mixdown The 2nd setup allows me to mix either DAWless or via daw back into mixer Dawless is the ultimate goal, but i would need at least 6 stereopairs of EQ to setup on inserts. Maybe some dbx shit, dunno yet

Yeah but I reckon it'd be cheaper to buy a decent analogue desk with EQ per channel already on it than multiple outboard.

Just check this out, reading the specs.


Then tell me you don't want it

http://www.allen-heath.com/uk/produ...ProductId=GSR24

Remember I had the ORAM Trident? Sounded very different from the SSL, A&H is Mackie + intergrated controller territory. I.e. No balanced inserts for starters
The superanaloque path of the SSL is unrivaled same as their Maxtrix and bigger units
That's 20k�+ if you want that equiped as rich as the A&H but SSL quality

Since I don't have matrix or x-rack money, i'll settle with esquisite gain staging and summing, using the Daw as backend for automation and EQ / FX

I've also looked at 4x GoldenAge EQ73 (NEVE CLONE)
http://www.recording-microphones.co.uk/GA%20EQ73.shtml
but i'll think for now settle with analogue front end, digital backend and all sequencing done via Genome and Cirklon, both clocked via the Innerclock SyncGen II Pro

You know Golden Age do a decent Neve style pre-amp and also a compressor now as well?

I bet you could get a really nice used SSL or Neve desk for about �20k you know.......

yeah, but then the maintenance, I like virgin gear and either hug it, or flog it.

I think you just like the chase

No, there is definately a strategy behind it

Me too. My strategy is want more stuff, buy more stuff.

I think it's working too.

One thing I don't get about your setup Raphie, is why you're trying to use analogue desks especially when automation is thrown in to the mix.

You'd be better off going digital control surfaces like Euphonix MC range and then patching to/from (say via MADI) to pristine converters and outboard. At the moment you're doing at least two full passes of Digital to analogue conversion, so any perceived benefit is going to be negated.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN One thing I don't get about your setup Raphie, is why you're trying to use analogue desks especially when automation is thrown in to the mix. You'd be better off going digital control surfaces like Euphonix MC range and then patching to/from (say via MADI) to pristine converters and outboard. At the moment you're doing at least two full passes of Digital to analogue conversion, so any perceived benefit is going to be negated.

I think he's using it to give the individual elements color/analog warmth and to route them to effects? I don't think he's doing any automation. I could be wrong though.

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