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Posted by AY STAR on Mar-28-2013 00:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Neonbeats
Blasting a DJ for playing their own productions is propabaly the dumbest shit I've heard all day. Haters goin hate.


it's not being a hater...its being realistic
some dj's can pull off playing their songs in a set
but playing the same ones over and over is getting old really fast
your golden boy armin is not one of them
seriously how many more mixes of in and out of love does armin really need to play? song was never even that good lol


Posted by Neonbeats on Mar-28-2013 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by AY STAR
it's not being a hater...its being realistic
some dj's can pull off playing their songs in a set
but playing the same ones over and over is getting old really fast
your golden boy armin is not one of them
seriously how many more mixes of in and out of love does armin really need to play? song was never even that good lol


Every DJ who produces plays their tracks over and over. From Armin to Luciano to Jamie Jones. Some DJs only play their tracks. Calling a dj a douchebag for playing his own tracks is retarded. Where is the hatred for Hawtin playing Spastik for the 3453144th time?

The fact is, the people come to hear those songs. DJs like Armin try to keep it fresh with playing an assortment of new remixes. I don't think he played In and Out of Love at Ultra.

Golden boy? I don't think I've seen him spin in like 3 years. I did enjoy his Ultra set tho.


Posted by violethalo on Mar-28-2013 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Neonbeats
Every DJ who produces plays their tracks over and over. From Armin to Luciano to Jamie Jones. Some DJs only play their tracks. Calling a dj a douchebag for playing his own tracks is retarded. Where is the hatred for Hawtin playing Spastik for the 3453144th time?

The fact is, the people come to hear those songs. DJs like Armin try to keep it fresh with playing an assortment of new remixes. I don't think he played In and Out of Love at Ultra.

Golden boy? I don't think I've seen him spin in like 3 years. I did enjoy his Ultra set tho.


No hatred but I get tired of hearing the same tracks and I don't think artists should play their own tracks over and over and over all the time. Playing new remixes gets old too. Gabriel & Dresden have beat that dead horse... Kaskade too. Like hello, I do not want to hear you butcher your own songs that I used to love so much. The only new remix of In and Out of Love that I liked was the mashup with JOC that Armin was playing for what... a year? That got old too even though I liked it when I heard it at Zoo.

This isn't limited to artists that I'm not a fan of (anymore or ever). I love Sasha but if he plays nothing but Involv3r tracks for the next year I will get bored. I finally got to catch Matador and he plays mostly his own stuff. Great to hear but if he starts coming around NY frequently I hope he will change it up.

Capriatti disappointed people on this board because he played expected Drumcode tracks, so you can take back your incorrect assumption


Posted by Armitage350 on Mar-29-2013 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Neonbeats
Every DJ who produces plays their tracks over and over. From Armin to Luciano to Jamie Jones. Some DJs only play their tracks.


Nobody is calling him out for playing his own tracks... its playing a majority of his set containing his own tracks, remixes, mashups, etc. that people are calling him out on.


Por ejemplo:

ASOT 450 Day 1 (Toronto)

Armin van Buuren
01. Velvetine - Safe (Wherever You Are) (Rank 1 Remix - AvB Intro Edit)
02. Yuri Kane - Right Back (Original Mix)
03. Mat Zo - Near The End (Original Mix)
04. Tritonal feat. Christina Soto - Forgive Me, Forget You (Ashley Wallbridge Remix)
05. Faithless - Not Going Home (Armin van Buuren Remix)
06. Leon Bolier & Marcus Schossow - 2099 (Original Mix)
07. Fire & Ice - Souvenir de Chine (ID Remix)
08. Gaia - Tuvan (Original Mix)
09. Ali Wilson - Pandora (Original Mix)
10. W&W vs. Jonas Stenberg - Aligator F**khouse (Original Mix)
11. Super8 & Tab - Irufushi (Original Mix)
12. DNS Project feat. Johanna - Mindful (Ronski Speed Remix)
13. Sophie Sugar vs. Sunlounger feat. Zara - Lost (Armin van Buuren Mashup)
14. Ben Preston feat. Susie - Remember Me (Daniel Kandi's Flashy Tribute Mix)
15. Nitrous Oxide feat. Aneym - Far Away (Club Mix)
16. Gaia - Aisha (Original Mix)
17. Roger Shah & Signum - Ancient World (Roger Shah Long Haul Flight)
18. Jer Martin vs. Armin van Buuren - Ten Minutes To Midnight With Desire (Armin van Buuren Mashup)
19. Max Graham feat. Neev Kennedy - Sun In The Winter (Alex M.O.R.P.H. Remix)
20. Sebastian Brandt - 450 (Original Mix) [ASOT 450 Official Anthem]
21. Ronski Speed feat. Emma Hewitt pres. Sun Decade - Lasting Light (Jorn Van Deynhoven Remix)
22. Chapter XJ - Resurrection (Jorn van Deynhoven Remix)
23. Adam Nickey pres. Blue8 - Eleventh Street (Original Mix)
24. Selu Vibra - Divine (Sean Tyas Rework)
25. Ummet Ozcan - Trinity (Original Mix)
26. Stoneface & Terminal - Don't Give A F**k (Original Vocal MIx)
27. W&W - Mainstage (Original Mix)
28. Ehren Stowers - Ascent (Original Mix)
29. Thomas Bronzwaer - Collider (Jorn van Deynhoven Remix)
30. Armin Van Buuren vs. Rank1 feat. Kush - This World Is Watching Me (Cosmic Gate Remix)
31. Armin van Buuren feat. VanVelzen - Broken Tonight (Alex M.O.R.P.H Remix)

8 out of 30 tracks playing, he had a hand in making.

ASOT 500 Party at Johannesburg:

Armin van Buuren
Tracklist:
01. Gaia - Status Excessu D (Intro Mix)
02. W&W - AK47
03. John O'Callaghan vs. Timmy & Tommy - Talk To Me (Orjan Nilsen Trance Mix)
04. Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400 (Chris Schweizer Bootleg Mix)
05. Shogun - Skyfire
06. Armin van Buuren feat. Winter Kills - Take A Moment (Alex M.O.R.P.H. Remix)
07. Orjan Nilsen - Between The Rays (Original Mix)
08. Sied Van Riel - M.M.E (Marlo remix)
09. ID
10. Tom Colontonio - Reflections (Heatbeat Renix)
11. DJ's United - Remember Love
12. Laura Jansen - Use Somebody (Armin van Buuren Rework)
13. Armin van Buuren feat. BT - These Silent Hearts (Original Mix)
14. Cosmic Gate - Exploration Of Space (Cosmic Gate Back 2 The Future Mix)
15. Selu Vibra - Divine (Sean Tyas Remix)

3 (possibly 4, dunno what the ID is)of 15 tracks he had a hand in.

Now fast forward to this year...

ASOT 600 in Mexico City

Tracklist:
01. Armin Van Buuren & Markus Schulz � The Expedition (ASOT 600 Anthem) (Andrew Rayel Remix)
02. Armin van Buuren ft Fiora � Waiting For The Night (Beat Service Remix) [Armada]
03. Armin van Buuren feat. Gabriel & Dresden � Zocalo (ID Remix)
04. Armin van Buuren & W&W � D# Fat 
05. Rank1 � Airwave (Julians Bootleg) [Kontor Records]
06. Armin van Buuren vs. Arty � Nehalennia (Original Mix) [Armada]
07. Armin Van Buuren feat. Ana Criado � I�ll Listen [Armada]
08. ID � The Dark Side (ID Remix)
09. �rjan Nilsen � Amsterdam (Original Mix) [ASOT Recordings]
10. Armin van Buuren Pres. Gaia � J�ai Envie De Toi (Original Mix) [Armind]
11. Beat Service � ID
12. Push � Universal Nation (Orjan Nilsen Remix)
13. Heatbeat � Game Over (Original Mix) [ASOT Recordings]
14. Solarstone vs Scott Bond & Armin van Buuren vs Sophie Ellis-Bextor � Not Giving Up On a 3rd Earth Love (Acapella) [Armada]
15. MarLo � BOOM (Original Mix) [Taken from ASOT2013 Album]
16. Armin van Buuren pres. Gaia � Humming The Lights (Original Mix) [Armind]
17. Ram � Grotesque (Alex M.O.R.P.H. and RAM Original Mix) [Armada /AVA]
18. Gaia � Tuvan (Original Mix) [Armada]
19. Armin van Buuren � Communication (Tomas Heredia Remix) [Armind]
20. Armin van Buuren & Markus Schulz � The Expedition (ASOT#600 Anthem) [Armada]
21. Armin van Buuren � Rush Hour (Amir Hussain Bootleg) [Armada]
22. The Doppler Effect � Beauty Hides In The Deep (John O�Callaghan Remix) [Armind]
23. Photographer vs. Armin van Buuren feat. Susana � Airport Shivers (Armin van Buuren Mashup)
24. Ferry Corsten vs. Armin van Buuren � Brute (Armin van Buuren Illegal Drum Mix) [Flashover]
25. Guiseppe Ottaviani & John O�Callaghan vs. Armin van Buuren � Ride The Wave vs. Burned With Desire (Armin van Buuren Mashup)[Armada]
26. Armin van Buuren vs. Dada Life � kick out The Epic In And Out Of Love [Armada]

Over half the set, including like 6 of the 7 first tracks, he had a hand in...

ASOT 600 in Miami:

Tracklist:
01. Zedd feat. Foxes � Clarity (Andrew Rayel Remix)
02. ID
03. Armin van Buuren feat. Fiora � Waiting For The Night (Beat Service Remix)
04. Armin van Buuren vs. Emma Hewitt � The Sound Of Rewind (Myon & Shane 54 Mashup)
05. Omnia & IRA � The Fusion (Original Mix)
06. Armin van Buuren & W&W � D# Fat
07. Armin van Buuren feat. Trevor Guthrie � This Is What It Feels Like (W&W Remix)
08. ID (Orjan Nilsen new track)
09. Armin van Buuren feat. Ana Criado vs. Broning � Suddenly Smash! (Armin van Buuren Mashup)
10. MaRLo � Boom
11. Alexander Popov � Lost Language
12. Armin van Buuren pres. Gaia � J�ai Envie De Toi
13. Beat Service � Aurora
14. Armin van Buuren pres. Gaia � Humming The Lights
15. Armin van Buuren & Markus Schulz � The Expedition (ASOT 600 Anthem)
16. Alex M.O.R.P.H. feat. Sylvia Tosun � An Angel�s Love (Vocal Mix)
17. Ciro Visone � First Coming (Ian Standerwick Remix)
18. Photographer vs. Wink � Kervansaray vs. Higher State of Consciousness (ID Mashup)
19. Photographer vs. Armin van Buuren & Susana � Airport Shivers (Armin van Buuren Mashup)
20. Ferry Corsten vs. Armin van Buuren � Brute (Armin van Buuren Illegal Drum Edit) w/ Gareth Emery feat. Christina Novelli � Concrete Angel (Accapella)

A little better, but still about half.

Bottom line is, he DJ's a lot more of his own stuff now than he ever used to. I'm willing to bet even if I broke down one of his extended sets from back in the day, his own stuff wouldn't comprise more than 1/4 of the entire set.

There are A LOT of (mainstream) DJ's who do this now... W&W comes to mind:

Tracklist:
01. W&W � Lift Off!
02. W&W � ID
03. W&W � Shotgun
04. Hardwell feat. Amba Shepherd � Apollo (Lucky Date Remix)
05. ID
06. Ashley Wallbridge & Rafaлl Frost vs. GTA, Henrix & Digital Lab vs. Hard Rock Sofa � Zorro Hit Rasputin! (W&W Mashup)
07. Zedd feat. Foxes � Clarity (W&W Bootleg)
08. Armin van Buuren & W&W � D# Fat
09. W&W � Invasion (A State Of Trance 550 Anthem) (Club Mix)
10. ID
11. W&W & Ummet Ozcan � The Code
12. Tiesto � Maximal Crazy (W&W Bootleg)
13. ID
14. ID
15. Marcel Woods vs. W&W � Trigger
16. ID
17. ID

I can only imagine who made those ID's...

Ferry is guilty too:

Track List
01. Festen � F__k The B_llsh_t [Flashover Progressive House]
02. Jacob van Hage � Crank [Flashover Electro House]
03. Ferry Corsten & Bassjackers � Collision [Spinnin']
04. Ferry Corsten � Rock Your Body Rock (Dimitry Vegas & Like Mike Remix) [Flashover]
05. Moguai, Dimitry Vegas & Like Mike � Mammoth [Spinnin']
06. Ferry Corsten � ID [Flashover]
07. Ferry Corsten vs. Markus Schulz � Loops & Tings [Cold Harbour]
08. Ferry Corsten featuring Aruna versus Ferry Corsten � Kudawudashuda Forever (Mashup) [CDr]
09. Imogen Heap � Hide & Seek (ID Remix) [CDr]
10. Ferry Corsten & Markus Schulz present New World Punx � ID
11. Ferry Corsten featuring Betsie Larkin � Not Coming Down (Rework) [CDr]
12. Ferry Corsten � Punk (MaRLo Remix) [Flashover]

I guess it's just what 'DJing' has become, because I'm pretty sure back in the day producer sets were kinda looked down upon unless advertised as such. There used to be a vast diversity in track selection when DJ's played. For this reason, as well, I prefer club sets spanning more than two hours... there tends to be a better track selection.


Posted by iLLiE586 on Mar-29-2013 19:23:

I'd rather see every DJ play their own tracks then all play the same beatport top100 tracks like what happens on the mainstages of these festivals lol.

Honestly, I've come to expect festival sets to be just average in 90% of events. They need to reach a broad audience of people, and you can't blame them for doing that. I'd rather have people dancing and having fun then being an arrogant douchebag.

Quality sets come alive at the 3 hour+ mark for me, because then they can actually take you for a ride, this 1-2 hour shit is just bang out as many tracks as possible to keep the wide variety of people on the dance floor happy.


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