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Originally posted by MelBeat I thought that's what was being suggested with dubstep. I am wondering why we are talking about Circus when it really depends on the promoters. Noone else has done as well at Circus as Spundae/Godskitchen.

no i'm referring to the crowd that goes out just to party and get drunk and try and get laid. that's Drai's or Belasco most nights. they don't care what they listen to lol.


actually Giant did the best at Circus not Spundae

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Originally posted by Cool1g no i'm referring to the crowd that goes out just to party and get drunk and try and get laid. that's Drai's or Belasco most nights. they don't care what they listen to lol. actually Giant did the best at Circus not Spundae

But there are also targeted events that do well, like the Mayan or the Arena.

Giant at Circus must have been before my time

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Originally posted by MelBeat But there are also targeted events that do well, like the Mayan or the Arena. Giant at Circus must have been before my time

Giant started in 99 or 2000... i forget. they launched the superclub scene in LA. Spundae was involved a bit with booking the djs (as they played SF the same weekend usually) and then took over when Giant left.


just saying it doesn't matter how big or nice the club is just by opening your doors won't guarantee a crowd... as evidenced right now.

Giant and Spundae were partnered up in the beginning. It all kind of depends on which side you hear the story from. The Spundae side usually being the correct side (touche' mr cool1g)

IMO... it's all about the promoters. But smart promoters will choose a venue that will be successful. The best promoter in town (right now) is Insomniac and I betcha if someone offered them a job at Circus, they'd politely decline (and LOL about after).

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Like I said, these Circus threads are GREAT!

I remember the forums used to get CRAZY back in the day. Avalon vs Circus. Giant vs Spundae. No MOD for the west coast forum. It was AWESOME!!!

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Originally posted by Cool1g Giant started in 99 or 2000... i forget. they launched the superclub scene in LA. Spundae was involved a bit with booking the djs (as they played SF the same weekend usually) and then took over when Giant left. just saying it doesn't matter how big or nice the club is just by opening your doors won't guarantee a crowd... as evidenced right now.

2000. PVD was their first big dj in their 2nd month of being there. line was crazy!

I think the biggest obstacle of throwing parties at Circus is its size. That's why most promoters would shy away from working with it. Maybe Circus could think of a way of throwing small cracking parties, as a way of attracting more people to come. That was exactly what happened last Friday at Ruby Skye: a small cracking party of about 50 people turned into 3/4 full main floor.

If you are the owner of a huge venue, I guess somehow you would have to prepare for a small crowd and keep the party going.

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal Great post! they need to remodel the place. that's a business decision they need to make. no legitimate promoter would step foot in that place considering its current reputation. Vanguard had become a shit hole and has not been bought out by the SBE guys (famous for their couture clubs n shit) and guess who teamed up with them....... Insomniac! edit* Gene is nearing 50 years in the business (I think he's year 40 or something). He says he plans on retiring at 50 (last I spoke with him a couple of years ago), that's if he doesn't croak before. The problem with this is why would he want to spend a ton of money on remodeling, when he's planning on retiring?

I doubt Circus will ever get remodeled. What for? You're probably right about spending a ton of money especially when he's already past a retiring age. He was going to retire some years ago before the housing market crashed, remember? Also, the other nights, mainly Fridays, get packed and there's usually some type of special event happening on other days/nights. Saturday seems to be the only night that lacks a crowd and I think it's mainly because too many people follow where others are going. The other thing is probably not enough promoting.
Go this Saturday, 4/13, and you'll see it get pretty packed in the main room. May 18th will also be packed. Why? Cause the Disco people work hard and promote a lot and well... the crowd loves to party, have a good time and not be complaining about the sound system or concerned about who is playing or which of their friends is going.

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Originally posted by SillySilvia 2000. PVD was their first big dj in their 2nd month of being there. line was crazy!

Every week the line was crazy! Every week had a couple of "top" DJs. Circus was the place to be.

I think this thread is the most action TA has gotten all month

Circus threads will do that!

It would probably have gone this way on the LMD thread that was deleted.

Edit: I mean talking about Circus.

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Originally posted by TSG Circus threads will do that!

You know.. Circus gets me "excited"

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Originally posted by able.h You know.. Circus gets me "excited"

You and a few others!

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal I think this thread is the most action TA has gotten all month

more action than you get.

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Originally posted by able.h what I think Circus should do to stay alive: switch over to another EDM genre that has less competitor in the market (e.g. Dubstep). I think it would make a great place for those young and new generation of Dubstep kids, they were in their teenagers years a couple years ago, but now they should be old enough to go to clubs, and if Circus' management is smart enough, with good marketing they can monopolize the Dubstep genre in Hollywood. Just sayin.. not that I like Dubstep, and if they do switch over to Dubstep, I would probably never land my feet there anymore But I can see the potential for Circus to stay alive and make $$$

Ten15 went a different route. Always see long lines outside now.

Also, those who say it's all about the promoter...you are WRONG.

DJs got tired of Circus, more so than any promoter. DJs just started saying they wanted to play in a more modern venue, especially in Los Angeles/Hollywood. The warehouse/dirty-feeling mega-club was a popular thing in the late 90s and early 2000s. By 2002 or 2003 that trend had changed. By 2005 or 2006 it was a complete thing of the past. Circus is still in the past.

Circus is an amazing venue and I am sure a good promoter would jump at the chance to throw parties there if it was made-over. You could throw some crazy 21+ events with big DJs with it's 3,000+ person capacity and make an assload of money if done right.

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal No MOD for the west coast forum. It was AWESOME!!!

We still don't have one.. bas bas bas... I have not seen him moderating anything.

target the washers! they come in droves and will gladly pay the cover. court the candy kids and burners. they couldn't care less if the venue isn't chic enough. they just want to have fun and dance.

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Originally posted by gerard6975 target the washers! they come in droves and will gladly pay the cover. court the candy kids and burners. they couldn't care less if the venue isn't chic enough. they just want to have fun and dance.

How do you track down a washer though? Where and when do they go to the river to drink and cool off? They are a rare species.

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Originally posted by gerard6975 target the washers! they come in droves and will gladly pay the cover. court the candy kids and burners. they couldn't care less if the venue isn't chic enough. they just want to have fun and "dance".

FTFY!

It's interesting to compare Palladium's strategy to Circus, at least for Saturday nights. Far as I know, Palladium isn't exclusive to Insomniac, as they have all kinds of different events such as rock bands, etc. What I have noticed is that the EDM events booked a Palladium are not going every week, they tend to be "special" events every once in awhile with triple headliners and usually either sell out or draw very good crowds.

LMD also did this every few months or so at Circus, take the "Trance Energy" night for example. With several headlining DJ's, good promotion, and strong ticket presales, they were able to get a buzz going about the party and draw in a pretty decent crowd.

Circus is a huge club, and that needs to be used to its advantage. Rather than section it off and have separate small clubs where the sound bleeds all over the place, it would be better to host special events that would fill the place.

With the current state of affairs, there's little possibility of any promoter other than Insomniac bringing in EDM DJ's there every week and drawing decent crowds. It worked different for Spundae & Giant, since they could book Armin, A&B, Ferry, pretty much anybody they wanted. Times are different now, and lesser known DJ's cannot bring the crowds in week after week. Without a good crowd, or expectation that there will be one, people are not going to show up. It's a terrible experience paying for parking and then walking into an empty club that never even begins to fill up, even if the DJ is from the other side of the world.

One strategy might be to book special event EDM nights at Circus. Bring in three good DJ's who are not married to Insomniac, promote it well, and chances are much better there will be a good crowd. Guess that's not the way most clubs work though, instead they have a promoter who tries in vain to fill a huge club against the odds every single week. It's also more of a gamble for the promoter, since if the club doesn't fill and three DJ's must be paid, then it's a financial washout.

Whatever the Palladium does seems to be working very well, though. I know it's a newly remodeled club, but I still hear all kinds of complaints about the sound, this and that...not everyone's going to agree on what a "great" club is. Then again, from what I hear, the Palladium is scheduled to be ripped down and turned into condos, so is it really doing that well? At least it has a good reputation.

Anyway, I think such EDM special event nights hosted by LMD might go over well at Circus, maybe once every few months. People get tired of going to the same clubs over & over, and everyone here seems to be saying they would like to see EDM back at Circus. And if it's not possible due to the way clubs, promoters, etc. work, then how does the Palladium pull it off? I'm sure there must be a way.

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Originally posted by in2muzikk It's interesting to compare Palladium's strategy to Circus, at least for Saturday nights. Far as I know, Palladium isn't exclusive to Insomniac, as they have all kinds of different events such as rock bands, etc. What I have noticed is that the EDM events booked a Palladium are not going every week, they tend to be "special" events every once in awhile with triple headliners and usually either sell out or draw very good crowds. LMD also did this every few months or so at Circus, take the "Trance Energy" night for example. With several headlining DJ's, good promotion, and strong ticket presales, they were able to get a buzz going about the party and draw in a pretty decent crowd. Circus is a huge club, and that needs to be used to its advantage. Rather than section it off and have separate small clubs where the sound bleeds all over the place, it would be better to host special events that would fill the place. With the current state of affairs, there's little possibility of any promoter other than Insomniac bringing in EDM DJ's there every week and drawing decent crowds. It worked different for Spundae & Giant, since they could book Armin, A&B, Ferry, pretty much anybody they wanted. Times are different now, and lesser known DJ's cannot bring the crowds in week after week. Without a good crowd, or expectation that there will be one, people are not going to show up. It's a terrible experience paying for parking and then walking into an empty club that never even begins to fill up, even if the DJ is from the other side of the world. One strategy might be to book special event EDM nights at Circus. Bring in three good DJ's who are not married to Insomniac, promote it well, and chances are much better there will be a good crowd. Guess that's not the way most clubs work though, instead they have a promoter who tries in vain to fill a huge club against the odds every single week. It's also more of a gamble for the promoter, since if the club doesn't fill and three DJ's must be paid, then it's a financial washout. Whatever the Palladium does seems to be working very well, though. I know it's a newly remodeled club, but I still hear all kinds of complaints about the sound, this and that...not everyone's going to agree on what a "great" club is. Then again, from what I hear, the Palladium is scheduled to be ripped down and turned into condos, so is it really doing that well? At least it has a good reputation. Anyway, I think such EDM special event nights hosted by LMD might go over well at Circus, maybe once every few months. People get tired of going to the same clubs over & over, and everyone here seems to be saying they would like to see EDM back at Circus. And if it's not possible due to the way clubs, promoters, etc. work, then how does the Palladium pull it off? I'm sure there must be a way.

I've always liked the idea of doing a one-off special event at Circus. I think a lot of people would attend for the nostalgia alone.

obviously there a lot of reasons why this would fail.

the Palladium has been a concert venue for what, 50 years? there have been dj events there a few times a year there for a while, more nowadays due to Insomniac. But IMO its not a fair comparison as the Palladium is a famous concert venue and EDM makes up only a very small % of their bookings.

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Originally posted by Cool1g the Palladium has been a concert venue for what, 50 years? there have been dj events there a few times a year there for a while, more nowadays due to Insomniac. But IMO its not a fair comparison as the Palladium is a famous concert venue and EDM makes up only a very small % of their bookings.

good point... not to mention that insomniac brings in A LOT of production for the "concert series" they host.

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal good point... not to mention that insomniac brings in A LOT of production for the "concert series" they host.

Define concert series when it comes to dj's at palladium? Eric prydz opens for arty at palladium its called a concert series?
Eric prydz pisses himself, slurrs his speech and trainwrecks at space and its called a disaster.

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