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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit shelly felt threatened and she sabotaged you.

Why though? Our jobs didn't even overlap! What I did was completely separate from what she did.

(btw, is is a 22-year-old married right out of high school redneck from Sheperdsville, Kentucky. She is on a permament diet and will loudly tell you so, but eats junk-food all day long and thinks salads and anything not fried is 'gross' this is her if you're curious. ).

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Originally posted by Lagrangian Try to get a job a.s.a.p the longer you go unemployed, the harder it is to get ANOTHER One! Hello, Status Quo?! (Think IRAs, Roth IRA, 401Ks...Retirement!) Anywhoo, try to watch more T.V. In Amerika, you HAVE TO. Because unlike Europe, T.V in America Rocks! For example: SNL! The New Girl Big Bang Theory Suburgatory Weeds True Blood Bates Motel JERSEYLICIOUS lol Ellen Revenge ... The list goes on, Talk Soup is also fun. I don't care much for sports, but BASEBALL, I love...It's not a sport for everyone.

I don't like tv. I have a few shows I download or watch on Netflix but otherwise I'd rather play video games or be with my friends.

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Originally posted by itsamemario Wrongful termination. Sue.

Can't. At-Will employment, so as long as they didn't tell me they were firing me for my gender, race, religion or sexuality they can terminate me for any reason (like not liking sports).

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Mario is stupid as always, and you clearly should have linked their email signatures to meatspin.com before you left.

I still have all the passwords to their social media and website.

Seems like Shelly did some great work behind your back.

Unfortunately, there will always be some people who will not like you at all for whatever reason. It sucks.

For sports, you can purposely talk trash about any team they like. After that, people usually try to sermon you on their team. All you have to do is nod in agreement and smile.

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Originally posted by sensorium For sports, you can purposely talk trash about any team they like. After that, people usually try to sermon you on their team. All you have to do is nod in agreement and smile.

Until a few months ago I thought the Chicago Bulls were a football team. I am not going to fool anyone by faking sports knowledge.

even though you arent competeing for positions do you guys share teh same direct report?

either way, she didn't like you and didn't want you around and made it her mission to make you look bad.

She is super fugly, i feel sorry for her boyfriend/ husband whatever. Talk about butter face.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit even though you arent competeing for positions do you guys share teh same direct report? either way, she didn't like you and didn't want you around and made it her mission to make you look bad. She is super fugly, i feel sorry for her boyfriend/ husband whatever. Talk about butter face.

More like butter everything.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit i feel sorry for her boyfriend/ husband whatever. Talk about butter face.

Welcome to country livin'! Not a lot of options, really. She complains because her husband isn't affectionate/refuses to hold her or cuddle her.

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Originally posted by Banora Welcome to country livin'! Not a lot of options, really. She complains because her husband isn't affectionate/refuses to hold her or cuddle her.

Use the cor
Post all their facebooks

Re: Have you ever been fired for not liking sports? ...I have.

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Originally posted by Banora I was fired today. I tried to talk to the manager because yeah, there were some problems in the office, but I was so blind-sided that I really didn't know what to do. Basically, I worked at this office for a month. My job was to answer phones, file, schedule interviews (they are a staffing agency specializing in putting the dregs of society back to work) and help those who are not computer literate fill out our online application. I originally took the job under the impression it is a temporary position because I am moving to Boston in a little less than two months. Turns out it was permanent, and the manager and owner knew I was moving but hired me anyway as they have an office in Boston I could work at. So my first day I arrive I am told the trainer can't come, so I basically feel everything out. Besides me, the owner and the manager who have private offices there are three other people in the office cubicles. I asked a question to one of the girls, Shelly (who was hired a week before me), and she was so rude and unhelpful I pretty much stopped asking her for help. Her attitude never improved toward me the whole time I was there despite my honest attempts. So I started to ask the other staffing person, Marcus, for help when I was confused and he was really nice and more than willing to help. Only problem is he is the head staffing consultant so often very busy, so I would have to ask Shelly or she would butt in and give her (usually wrong) answer/advice when I asked him a question. The other girl is Kate. Sometimes she is my best friend, but when Shelly was feeling nasty she is my biggest hater. Anyway, so the owner is your typical out-of-touch, can barely use a computer older business owner. He discovers that I am very handy with the Office Suite as well as Photoshop and other useful tools and starts asking me to redesign the website, design his powerpoints, photoshop and start running the social media. I don't mind because I think this will be great when they write my letter of recommendation and I have something to show for my work. Not to mention this is quick, easy stuff. Well, now my workload has added. Then the manager decides to saddle me with marketing/recruiting for some big fund-raiser they are throwing in a couple of weeks. I warn them I am terrible at sales, but they said it isn't so much as selling as I just have to make sure the word gets out to people. So, more to add on to my work load. Shelly starts loudly every morning bitching and moaning because she "mopped/did dishes/swept yesterday and this is SOOOO UNFAIR because not everyone is pulling their weight around". So I start mopping, doing dishes just to shut her up. Then she starts to bitch that I am not answer to answer the phones and she is so busy she can barely handle her workload, let alone answer the phones (she will snatch up the phone on the first ring, then loudly complain how this is taking her away from her job). Shelly would always say no to every question I had, while Mark always says yes. The problem is when I am helping Marcus with job placements and he is telling me 'fill ten positions' and I ask him a question and he is either away from his desk or busy, Shelly would interject and tell me that 'she's got it' or just say 'no' to everything. Constant conflicting instructions were hard as hell to follow. Two weeks ago the owner calls me in and asks me to design a layout for our emails linking the new website, social media, and promotion link for the fund-raiser. I do that. He likes it and says everyone needs to use it. I send out a company wide email (we have two offices). Shelly loudly complains she doesn't have time for me to 'play on her computer'. Whatever, I let her do her thing (which is wrong). I get a message from the other office that the GM can't figure out how to set up the emails, so I replied she can copy and paste my work into the signatures. She replies back with "I want to know how so I can do it myself." The phones are ringing off the hook, people are coming in to pick up their checks and asking a billion questions plus I had to update the website again so I told her I wasn't very good at explaining things remotely and it would be easier to copy and paste the design. I get a response of "I will figure it out myself." Figuring the matter is solved I go about my business when I get a nasty email from the GM an hour later "When someone asks you for help the correct response is to get on the phone and walk them through it. We are TEAM PLAYERS and your behavior is not very conducive to a team environment. I was frustrated with your lack of help to even respond to you any further." I wrote an email back, apologizing, since I didn't mean to make her upset. No response. I go about my day. I come in the next morning (7am) and see there is an email from the GM of the other office. She has decided she does not like the layout of the signatures and wants me to redesign them. NOW. I design five for her to choose from sticking close to what the owner specified. She replies she does not like any of my designs and will choose her own. Later in the day I get an email with her complaining that the links in her design won't work and the formatting is wrong. I ask her if she would like me to call and help, I offer to DRIVE 30 miles just to show her how to format properly. She tells me no. I go about my business. I get bitched out AGAIN for not being a team player. Finally I go to the manager of our office and tell her that I am concerned; I never received proper training and I feel like it is effecting my job. She agrees and apologizes, saying that she sees me struggling and will give me the proper training... next week. So earlier this week we sat down and I got the training; except she was telling me everything I already knew and had figured out! I essentially wasted three hours of her rehashing everything I had learned. I only walked away with maybe four or five new tips. We also talked about getting me a headset to wear for when I had to be away from my desk so I could continue to answer the phone. Yesterday the owner of our biggest account (Jackie) called and was demanding someone's doctor's note and wanted it NOW. Shelly swore she remembered seeing the person in question come in and hand me the note, but I never saw him and do not remember having a doctor's note on my desk, as I would have filed it immediately. Jackie calls our manager and is bitching her out, demanding this note, threatening to pull her business if we don't find it. For the next two hours we tear through garbage cans, shredded documents, anywhere and everywhere. We're all in a panic when I asked "Why can't we just call the guy and have him ask his doctor for a duplicate note?" the manager explains it is because Jackie wants it NOW and she can not be kept waiting. I said she might have to wait anyway if we can't find it, so maybe we should call the guy just to get him on standby. Finally Jackie calls back and realizes that she never needed the note, but only needed the dates the guy didn't work. Crisis averted. Today the manager was acting really weird toward me. I was heading out to lunch when she calls me in her office. She explains that it is simply not working out, that I am away from my desk too much and not able to answer the phones, making Shelly and Marcus do it (two days prior she told me that Shelly was to answer the phone if I am away from my desk), that there is too much hostility in the office, that she is upset at my attitude toward the GM at the other office and her struggle with understanding email signatures, and that she is pissed at my attitude toward Jackie and that I dared to even suggest Jackie wait for something she requested. She was also angry that: "During your training you said 'I know' or 'I already do that' to everything I was trying to teach you! That is not a positive attitude!" I was only saying that so she'd skip over the stuff I figured out on my first day and actually, you know, get to the more advanced stuff I was fucking up on. I guess that is why she suddenly ended the training session early. She then went on to say "And really, you don't fit in here at all! Everyone here loves sports and you have made it clear you don't. We all watch tv and like to discuss tv and movies and the radio and you don't do any of that! You purposely separate yourself from us and it really distracting. Besides, you are moving soon anyway, so think of this as a way to free up this problem of having a job before you move!" I tried to explain that without a job up until I move I can't go to Boston. She was all: "Yeah this sucks, I'm sorry." So. To sum it up: fuck bullshit office politics. I'mma go be a bum now.

Offices are bizarre places filled with petty, small-minded individuals restricted to an unstimulating working environment, and failing to take part in the many bullshit social rituals can easily alienate people even when professionally you've done nothing wrong. In an office as small as the one you describe filled with that calibre of mouth-breathing halfwit, you probably did piss them off by not "fitting in".

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Offices are bizarre places filled with petty, small-minded individuals restricted to an unstimulating working environment, and failing to take part in the many bullshit social rituals can easily alienate people even when professionally you've done nothing wrong. In an office as small as the one you describe filled with that calibre of mouth-breathing halfwit, you probably did piss them off by not "fitting in".

Living in a mid-sized college sports town I have often recieved weird looks when I say I am not into sports, so I was used to the office reaction. However, when Shelly asked me if I watched 'American Idol' last night I said I hadn't owned a tv in about four years she stared and said 'what the hell is wrong with you!? What do you even do all day!?'

Ha, I got a similar reaction in my office when I revealed I don't have a TV.

Why is it so weird that I would rather enjoy my time doing other things than vegetating on the couch? And on that note, why is everyone so obsessed about being a 'team player'? I mean, I understand it is important to be able to work with people, but I don't need to like the same shit or even have to talk to my coworkers about myself beyond office duties to properly do my job. Honestly, I'd rather not have people coming over to desk and chatting about the latest episode of some show they saw while I am trying to do my work.

Not to mention years of going to poorly performing schools with the dregs of society taught me that working in a team and relying on others will always bring you down.

When I transitioned from retail to office work, I started reading all of the highlights on my news feed. Local and world news were sections I already read, but I threw in entertainment and sports just to have something to talk about.

From what I've experienced, you can't fully be yourself in low-turnover and tightly knit environment like an office. I play with a death metal band in my free time, and although I wasn't really surprised at their reaction, I wasn't aware how much it would alter other employees' perceptions of me as their coworker.

Talking about "normal" things and playing into politics is annoying at times, but for me, it beats being the office odd-ball.

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Originally posted by Banora Can't. At-Will employment, so as long as they didn't tell me they were firing me for my gender, race, religion or sexuality they can terminate me for any reason (like not liking sports).

Hmm sucks... Don't you have proper job contracts in the US?
Laws in Norway, at least, protects you from being fired for not liking sports (or whatever the craze is at the office).

So are most jobs like this in US and A or is it just low-level jobs with high turnover rate among employees that utilize the at-will rule?

She specifically said it's a Kentucky law, you dope.

It's called at-will-employment and many states have it. As the land of the free, america has little worker-protection compared to communist europe.

I have a TV, but pretty much just use it to watch select shows I record, the occasional sports game, and streaming Netflix. Their reactions shock me, until I remember that tens of millions of people do watch those awful network television shows every night. I didn't even know American Idol was still being produced

Definitely sucks, though, I'm sorry.

How'd you ever get stuck in Kentucky in the first place? That's one of the last States I'd imagine a TA ending up in, other than Wyoming and Rhode Island.

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Originally posted by Watts Talking about "normal" things and playing into politics is annoying at times, but for me, it beats being the office odd-ball.

I didn't really go into the things I liked or disliked, I just politely would inform them that I didn't like sports or watch tv when asked. Whatever, though.

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Originally posted by Sykonee How'd you ever get stuck in Kentucky in the first place? That's one of the last States I'd imagine a TA ending up in, other than Wyoming and Rhode Island.

My dad is from here and I spent most of my life in Kentucky.

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Originally posted by Woony It's called at-will-employment and many states have it. As the land of the free, america has little worker-protection compared to communist europe.

If I am not mistaken all of the US is At-Will with the exception of Montana IF you pass the 90-day trial period.

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Originally posted by Banora My dad is from here and I spent most of my life in Kentucky.

Ah, it's one of those "keep gettin' pulled back in" type of States.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Seriously though that sounds like how I got let go at my last job. Didn't matter that I did two extra job descriptions or that my team was the only one to get out a project on time and under budget the last quarter I worked. Stupid office politics got me fired.

You've held a job before?

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Originally posted by Sykonee Ah, it's one of those "keep gettin' pulled back in" type of States.

Sadly

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Originally posted by zGoogleman You've held a job before?

Yes. I did database/backend development (that was my job description when I started) for a web development/business identity firm for 3 years. By the end I was doing server administration, project management, client interaction (like I was the direct contact for clients), and I was also doing, on top of all of this, almost full time desktop app development for software that was being used by dozens of major companies for problem analysis/accident investigation.

That client ended up being the death of me. Out of the blue, after doing a shit ton of stuff off the book (at the bosses request) and shit even in my own free time, the client flipped the fuck out on me (or more likely I was thrown under the bus by my boss, which is the most likely because he had done it before, with me in the room, on a conference call with the client covering for his fuck up ) and said they didn't want me working on the project anymore. Since they were like a $12,000 a month client and pretty much the only reliable income the company had at the moment my bosses put me on probation and then fired me the next week. Their given reason to me was fermenting revolt or something because I went out to lunch with coworkers that week and bitched, and the bosses asked the coworkers what we talked about at lunch and one of them ended up talking.

Funny part was when I filed for unemployment I said exactly what happened, and then they changed their story from the reason they gave me for why I was fired to "unsatisfactory work performance" which, apparently in WA, is not a valid reason to fire someone haha. They ended up having to foot my entire unemployment period for 2 years because it was invalid AND they opted out of paying into the unemployment fund with the state. I got 85% of my pay for 2 years on their dime.

The best part was their stated reason to unemployment was total BS. I was the only team leader that quarter who actually got a project out on time and in budget (for my half, the art departments half went 300 hours over budget and I am not even sure how that happened since there was basically no art needed). The manager of the programming department flipped the fuck out when I was fired... We were already short staffed and they just sacked me with out consulting him (he actually ended up having a heart attack later that year, he was ok though, he quit within 6 months of it though).

Apparently the client that flipped on me later flipped on the other guy on the project and since he knew the MO he told the bosses that they could fuck off or he'd quit right then and there and since he was the only one on the project that was actually capable of doing something (one of the partners who was also on it was a total idiot, didn't know how to program, chose horrible solutions, etc) they had to turn tail and tell the client to calm down.

Good times.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby "unsatisfactory work performance" which, apparently in WA, is not a valid reason to fire someone haha.

Seriously?

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby They ended up having to foot my entire unemployment period for 2 years because it was invalid AND they opted out of paying into the unemployment fund with the state. I got 85% of my pay for 2 years on their dime.

Double seriously? Wow, lol.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Seriously? Double seriously? Wow, lol.

Yea, I should scan the letter from unemployment with their verdict. It was funny cause my former employer knew they were up shit creek (cause they tried to offer me to quit saying they'd cite creative differences if anyone called about me for another job) and they refused to answer emails or phone calls from the unemployment board.

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