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Originally posted by TranceSeeker and Dave Seaman is Australian

...he is?

USA gotz that skank whore..who plays the dirty trance..sandra collins!!!wooohoooo..we are sooo coool

The UK owns jack with regards to the trance scene. Everyone in this thread is bleating on about progressive DJ's with a few exceptions. But if you think about it the only real quality trance DJ's that the UK has are:

John OO Fleming
Guy Ornadel
Scott Bond

Erm, I'm struggling to think of any more....

Judge Jules is pants! He can not mix, when will people realise this?
Oakenfold has lost it. He plays watered down cheesy trance and produces pop albums. Granted in 97/98 he was immense, but I try not to compare that to what he does now.
John Kelly is disgraceful, I detest someone who plays exactly (and I mean EXACTLY) the same set 3 times in a row!
Scotland has produced he-haw in the way of trance DJ's. If it wasn't for someone like Paul Mendez doing the Jacob & Mendez thing plus working with MIKE we would have contributed pretty much zilch.

When it comes to Europe things are different...

Tiesto, maybe not the finest exponent of mixing but is up there with the best. His tunes have pushed the genre forward.
PVD, his productions are beautiful, his mixing is good (not god-like in the way some members have described it). He is good for the genre.
Armin, his sets are beautifully constructed and is becoming one of the finest producers around.
MIKE, can any UK producer match these productions. I beg anyone to tell me a UK producer who consistently produces the goods like MIKE has.
Switzerland has given us some of the finest hard-trance DJ's/producers out there. Where is the UK equivalent of SHOKK or Flutlicht?
Ferry Corsten is perhaps the finest producer out there. His DJ sets are uplifting, rarely cheesy. If people believe him to be cheesy then they are obviously basing their thoughts on misconceptions. Get out there and actually listen to one of his sets live. He has done so much for the genre, producing some of its greatest tracks and yet he is abused by the samll minded amongst you.

The facts have been laid out, the UK owns no-one!

someday the u.s. will be in a trance too!

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Originally posted by Acid Circus The UK owns jack with regards to the trance scene. Everyone in this thread is bleating on about progressive DJ's with a few exceptions. But if you think about it the only real quality trance DJ's that the UK has are: John OO Fleming Guy Ornadel Scott Bond Erm, I'm struggling to think of any more.... Judge Jules is pants! He can not mix, when will people realise this? Oakenfold has lost it. He plays watered down cheesy trance and produces pop albums. Granted in 97/98 he was immense, but I try not to compare that to what he does now. John Kelly is disgraceful, I detest someone who plays exactly (and I mean EXACTLY) the same set 3 times in a row! Scotland has produced he-haw in the way of trance DJ's. If it wasn't for someone like Paul Mendez doing the Jacob & Mendez thing plus working with MIKE we would have contributed pretty much zilch. When it comes to Europe things are different... Tiesto, maybe not the finest exponent of mixing but is up there with the best. His tunes have pushed the genre forward. PVD, his productions are beautiful, his mixing is good (not god-like in the way some members have described it). He is good for the genre. Armin, his sets are beautifully constructed and is becoming one of the finest producers around. MIKE, can any UK producer match these productions. I beg anyone to tell me a UK producer who consistently produces the goods like MIKE has. Switzerland has given us some of the finest hard-trance DJ's/producers out there. Where is the UK equivalent of SHOKK or Flutlicht? Ferry Corsten is perhaps the finest producer out there. His DJ sets are uplifting, rarely cheesy. If people believe him to be cheesy then they are obviously basing their thoughts on misconceptions. Get out there and actually listen to one of his sets live. He has done so much for the genre, producing some of its greatest tracks and yet he is abused by the samll minded amongst you. The facts have been laid out, the UK owns no-one!

think your forgetting Matt Hardwick and Eddie Halliwell.
Jules isn't that bad, he's been fairly good when I've seen him actually
Oakenfold does not play watered down cheesy trance, and if you think he does I'd like to know which sets you've been listening to, as for John Kelly, he's ahrdly in the same class as the others

o.......k.....

has any1 realised that no 1 country actually 'owns' trance in any way, shape or form. its a collective effort from dj's/producers from all around the world, them either being big room dj's or lil bedroom producers. Most countries hav @ least 2 or 3 trance djs/producers that have added sumthing to the genre.

like every country, the UK doesn't own trance, however trance would b @ a loss without it.

@ least thats the way i c it...........



oh + btw: granted we r pretty much shite @ every sport...however the australian didn't have to resort to tellin us how his team raped the swimming pool @ manchester...wtf was that all about?

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Originally posted by Az think your forgetting Matt Hardwick and Eddie Halliwell. Jules isn't that bad, he's been fairly good when I've seen him actually Oakenfold does not play watered down cheesy trance, and if you think he does I'd like to know which sets you've been listening to, as for John Kelly, he's ahrdly in the same class as the others

Yes both good DJ's, but not top quality!

As for Oakie I'm basing my opinions on his last sets I heard him play live which were Gig on the Green in Glasgow, 25th August & Perfecto, Pacha, 23rd July. Two dates that were not that far by-gone, two times I had to endure Bullet in the Gun for god knows how many times now. Just not a patch on his sets from the late nineties.

And John Kelly is pants ain't he

Why do you always have to say shit about DJ's and producers you don't like? Your opinion doesn't really have to be right especially when it comes to music where tastes differ, although I guess some of you believe so
Try talking about the music by saying I (don't) like this DJ/producer because of....
Instead of bashing a DJ/Producer and saying that he's shit even though he has a whole lot of people that like him. You know it'll just end in an endless mess

Cheers

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Originally posted by burns I cant stand people dissing Oakie, I nearly stroked this prick in my colledge for saying hes shit a few days ago. People who diss Oakenfold seriously know shit.

So damn true mate, the people who talk shit about him are still in their rookie-years for trance, listening to armin, ferry, ....
Afterwards they'll realize who good he actually is.
The sets Armin, ferry, gielen,... play take u nowhere.

I think you're al wrong, and well for this reasons:

Holland is the starter of the trance scene (think of Tiesto in his early years, with sapce age and Magik series and of course, his Innercity performance!). From Holland trance was flowing to other countries.

You guys forget some dutch trance dj's:
Rank 1 (Airwave!)
Gouryella (need I say more?)
Marco V

And what about the trance parties? Holland is THE place to be. Examples are Innercity, Sensation, Trance Energy, Mysteryland, Dance Valley, Massive, Qlimax, Shockers, Qontact etc....


HOLLAND OWNZ U!!!

Trance was already big in Belgium when Holland just saw the light.
Dance Opera parties were the best of that time, 1990-199.
BEFORE tiesto's space age etc...
Just wanna make clear that Tiesto made Trance bigger. He didnt invent it...
Tnx to Holland trance became mainstream, the UK kept it underground.
Not flaming Holland here though they have awsome parties with the best dj's.
Just wanna make clear Holland is not the starter of trance, way from, Holland made it big and more open for a wider public but they surely didn't start trance.

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker So damn true mate, the people who talk shit about him are still in their rookie-years for trance, listening to armin, ferry, .... Afterwards they'll realize who good he actually is. The sets Armin, ferry, gielen,... play take u nowhere.

I don't get it
Why should you bash others opinions telling them that your taste has evolved a lot more than the taste of the ones who like Ferry, Armin or Gielen? or at least that's what I think your saying...
Just because Oakenfold's taste in music has "evolved" does it mean that yours has to "evolve" in the same way? And that the people who don't like it and stick to uplifting/melodic are just one step behind the others who do like it?

Please explain, if I'm getting this wrong

Cheers

its kinda weird...taste does evolve..and when it does..it doesnt involve ferry corsten or..armin...its strange..not just to me but dozens of people on this board....

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Originally posted by trancedfarmer someday the u.s. will be in a trance too!

if its only possible

hell, im as american as they come, with a german bloodline, but hell, UK kicks ass!!! LONG LIVE OAKENFOLD

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Originally posted by TheFeeling I don't get it Why should you bash others opinions telling them that your taste has evolved a lot more than the taste of the ones who like Ferry, Armin or Gielen? or at least that's what I think your saying... Just because Oakenfold's taste in music has "evolved" does it mean that yours has to "evolve" in the same way? And that the people who don't like it and stick to uplifting/melodic are just one step behind the others who do like it? Please explain, if I'm getting this wrong Cheers

Damn I made a great reply to ya but then TA seems to freeze here, I thought it will be posted thuogh but nothing

Well then I stick to speedracer_mec's explanation

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Originally posted by Acid Circus Yes both good DJ's, but not top quality! As for Oakie I'm basing my opinions on his last sets I heard him play live which were Gig on the Green in Glasgow, 25th August & Perfecto, Pacha, 23rd July. Two dates that were not that far by-gone, two times I had to endure Bullet in the Gun for god knows how many times now. Just not a patch on his sets from the late nineties. And John Kelly is pants ain't he

Both of those DJ's are top quality, there's no debating, Matt Hardwick will take over the world, and Halliwell is just too damn good
Both those Oakie sets are MASSIVE events, in which many people will go to hear Bullet in the Gun, at GG there was no hint of cheese whatsoever (not that I could hear that much from outside the tent, as the entire place was filled with ppl shouting his name, which funnily enuff happened at SSS as well)....
bleh anyway, form what I hear John Kelly is on and off, then again, he shouldn't be mentioned in the same conversation as the others, unless your ridiculing him, which you are, so carry on

on a side note, the topic should be changed to "owns the whole dance music scene", cos we blatantly do

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Originally posted by Acid Circus Oakenfold has lost it. He plays watered down cheesy trance

Have you even listened to a recent Oakenfold set? I doubt it. Everyone who knows anything will agree that his recent sets have been class, with all top-notch tunes.

I suppose you like Armin and Ferry who don't play cheese ...

Theres lots of people like `Acid Circus` who listen to much to other people, Like a guy in my class who swears Oakenfold plays breaks & cheep dance music. These people need to put them-selves in the driving seat and see for them self instead of hiding behind there freinds and following the leader. Listen to Oakenfold your self then comment !



The worse some-one can say about Oakenfold is `I Dont like his music`

Geez, would you guyz stop patronizing please "I bet your fav DJs are Ferry and Armin", is this some kind of common innate nature of prog lovers or something? With no means of starting a mutual flaming session here but dude, if you wanna discuss this with others look on eye level rather than 2 heads above them.

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Originally posted by burns I cant stand people dissing Oakie, I nearly stroked this prick in my colledge for saying hes shit a few days ago. People who diss Oakenfold seriously know shit.

burns, you diss armin.... so what do you know?

LOL

Sorry dude.......

But Germany own the trance community............UK have some DJs but NOTHING compare to Germany

DJs:
Paul van Dyk, Tall 2XLC, Dumonde, Blank & Jones, Cosmic Gate, Scot Project, CJ Stone, DJ Taucher, Kai Tracid..................

Producers/remixers:
Martin Eyerer, Green Court, Reeloop, Woody Van Eyden, Derb, Aquagen, Tillmann Uhrmacher...........don't forget some of the DJs I listed are great producers/remixers too

Damn........too many to name........

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Originally posted by DaveC burns, you diss armin.... so what do you know?

He knows what he likes, and what he doesn't like. Unfortunately, he doen't know that other people's opinions are just as good as his!

Re: LOL

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Originally posted by TranceLuver4evr Sorry dude....... But Germany own the trance community............UK have some DJs but NOTHING compare to Germany Paul van Dyk, Tall 2XLC, Dumonde, Blank & Jones, Cosmic Gate, Scot Project, CJ Stone, DJ Taucher, Kai Tracid.................. Damn........too many to name........

Yes, but you forget they all make lowly cheese

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