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Posted by Fledz on Jul-25-2013 19:51:

It's not even just the dating scene but day to day in general. I'm just surprised that's all. I knew TO was meant to be like this but now that I've been here a couple of months, I kind of get why a lot of people don't like it. It's a negative feedback loop, everyone is making it worse for everyone else.

It's super interesting from a social study perspective. I think Lira would have a ball here if he was visiting for a short period, just studying the way people do things here and their mindset. In fact, anyone with an interest in psychology and human interaction would have a field day here.

quote:
Originally posted by Silky Johnson
You would probably like Vancouver better than both TO and Montreal.


People definitely seem more open out west but the nightlife is meant to be terrible if you live there.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-25-2013 19:56:

True. It's got nothing on Toronto in terms of volume and variety of acts that go through...they're really big on deep house (West coast/San Fran style) and dubstep, lots of junglists and drum&bass heads and shit too (damn hippies love that shit).

However, when good acts go through, they go through. Prosumer was there not too long ago! I think their underground scene is actually super underground, lol.

When I was at WMC in 2009, I went to the Amenti Music party...and the majority of the people in the club were from either Vancouver or Calgary. So weird.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Jul-25-2013 20:08:

Toronto is and always has been a shithole.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-25-2013 20:11:

I like Toronto a lot. Always something to do. Lots of great food. Cultural events, etc. Doesn't mean it doesn't have A LOT of room for improvement.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Jul-25-2013 20:13:

New York called. I wants it's....wrong number.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-25-2013 20:13:

Toronto isn't a huge step up from Rochester and that's saying a lot.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-25-2013 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
New York called. I wants it's....wrong number.





Posted by Fledz on Jul-25-2013 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
Toronto is and always has been a shithole.


I think that's a bit harsh but I can understand why you and a lot of others say that. There's definitely a tonne of room for improvement, but cities and the local residents rarely change.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-25-2013 20:18:

Shoulda seen it in the 80s. Now THAT was a shithole.


Posted by Fledz on Jul-25-2013 20:24:

It probably had less of those ugly skyscrapers around at least. City hall was definitely smoking crack when they approved the plans for the entire GTA to be ruined by glass towers.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-25-2013 20:27:

In the past 3-4 years alone the insane amount of condos that have gone up is beyond terrible. The drive through d/t on the Gardiner used to be pretty cool when you could still actually see the lake. Now it's just walled in by goddamn condos.


edit: to compare it to Van again, at least in Van their sky scrapers, from the design of them to the location, look like they were well thought out with the look of the skyline in mind. Matching materials and an overall cohesiveness to the look of the downtown core.

Unlike Toronto's which is just a bunch of fucking boxes all jammed as close together as possible. It's totally a perfect reflection of what the people are like - competitive and out to prove something, but to the point of gaudiness.


edit 2: You can barely even see the Skydome anymore!!


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-25-2013 20:27:

Yeah, Toronto is pretty ugly.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-25-2013 20:31:



View from on the campus where I went to Uni. Library tower in the foreground.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jul-25-2013 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
View from on the campus where I went to Uni. Library tower in the foreground.


Ain't got shit on Denver!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-25-2013 20:39:

Is that fog or smog? I know it's not shocking news, but the smog in LA is gross as fuck. Living in a place where I can see the Milky Way with my naked eye, it's pretty goddamn awful to experience an atmosphere like LA's.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jul-25-2013 20:41:

Neither! It's smoke because we're on fucking fire every summer.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jul-25-2013 20:41:

Does anyone else find it strange when there are massive cities not near easy ocean access... I don't know why but places like Denver just kinda seem odd.

On the other hand I can't really imagine myself living further than walking distance from large salt water bodies. I need to see the ocean/know that there is that link to the rest of the world to feel comfortable.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jul-25-2013 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Neither! It's smoke because we're on fucking fire every summer.


Also this, maybe:




Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jul-25-2013 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Does anyone else find it strange when there are massive cities not near easy ocean access... I don't know why but places like Denver just kinda seem odd.

On the other hand I can't really imagine myself living further than walking distance from large salt water bodies. I need to see the ocean/know that there is that link to the rest of the world to feel comfortable.


One of your many umbilicals.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-25-2013 20:44:

Don't you need oxygen masks to breathe in Denver?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-25-2013 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Does anyone else find it strange when there are massive cities not near easy ocean access... I don't know why but places like Denver just kinda seem odd.

On the other hand I can't really imagine myself living further than walking distance from large salt water bodies. I need to see the ocean/know that there is that link to the rest of the world to feel comfortable.



I have always lived on a body of water. I definitely find it strange to be in a city that isn't on the water. Vegas was super weird. Very trapping feeling for sure.


Posted by enydo on Jul-25-2013 20:48:


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jul-25-2013 20:49:

"Save the evidence"


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Jul-25-2013 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Silky Johnson
I have always lived on a body of water. I definitely find it strange to be in a city that isn't on the water. Vegas was super weird. Very trapping feeling for sure.


Yea, I get that way when I am in the Oregon high desert. To stand up on a mountain and not see any large bodies of water anywhere on the horizon is really strange. After a week or so down there I really start to get a claustrophobic feeling, which is funny because its such a wide open space. I just don't see ocean and I am like "WOAH WAIT, HOW DO YOU GUYS GET OUT?"


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jul-25-2013 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo









quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Yea, I get that way when I am in the Oregon high desert. To stand up on a mountain and not see any large bodies of water anywhere on the horizon is really strange. After a week or so down there I really start to get a claustrophobic feeling, which is funny because its such a wide open space. I just don't see ocean and I am like "WOAH WAIT, HOW DO YOU GUYS GET OUT?"



Hahah yeah exactly.


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