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Originally posted by biznology What would happen to the state of the planet if the US just disappeared, or pulled out of world affairs entirely, no capital exports, no business outside the borders, and did not involve itself outside of the country?

If america where to withdrawl from wolrd affairs, and only do business within its borders, im sorry to say but it would be drastic not just for the world but for the US as well. Theres no way it would happen for the US depends to much on other countries foor goods and services, and the rest of the world depends on the US for certain things as well.

I got one thing to say .. REPUBLICANS ARE WHORES ! ! ! ! they give a big crap about global environment. And what a coincidence, the country is in a recession, elections are coming for senate places, and Cheney and Bush are both petroleum buddies, whatever happened to Osama Bin Ladin ? wasent it enough ? war against terrorism didnt work to well in order to bring nations economy back and has to go into another so people would SUPPORT him and give him rating ?!!
I live in America, its a country with great opportunitites, but sometimes, its absurd and sad to see how americans fall for all the bullshit that BUSH is doing. All they want is do whatever is best FOR them, not the country nor the world, they want petroleum ... its all they are going for.. besides getting public support and help raise the chance of getting the senate under republican contro.. then we are in a big hole.

here's how I feel about Iraq:

WASTE THE MOTHA FUCKAS

after this post, i'll prob broaden the topic even further, as far as the war on terrorism is concerned, i blame it on religion, if only some people wouldn't be so naive and head over heels for religion (i'm not anti-religionist) and most wars are based on religion.

and as far as the war against iraq is concerned, see wat the UN finds in iraq and than base the decision to attack iraq or not. there's no point in attacking resulting in further loss of life etc. itz stupid having to resolve issue via military power... but if itz necessary, *sigh im all for it

but for there to be a real argument/opinions formed, u should understand more about the topic before u speak... there's more truth out there than the media and the bush government say.

btw, bush also wants to attack sadam coz there's personal conf;ict between them... i think itz coz sadam once tried to kill his dad or something, not sure

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Originally posted by dj_nomiz after this post, i'll prob broaden the topic even further, as far as the war on terrorism is concerned, i blame it on religion, if only some people wouldn't be so naive and head over heels for religion (i'm not anti-religionist) and most wars are based on religion.

I agree 100 percent.

religion's main purpose on earth has been to justify war.

I think the Iraqi weapons program needs to be shut down, and Saddam's regime needs to be destroyed. Saddam is tryin to hold of a US attack until he has his WOMD program worked out. He held off bringing UN inspectors back in for as long as he could, then he agreed to let them in unconditionally to hold off the US attack (which would surelyhave otherwise begun by now). Now he's saying he won't accept any "new" conditions (a term whose meaning no one understands). He's just tryin to kill time. The sooner that regime is terminated the better for the world (including Iraq). A democracy simply would not work so soon in Iraq, so a new dictator needs to be appointed (hopefully by the UN, but most probably will be done by the US).

Having said that I do not dellude myself regarding and concede that a large part of the motivation behind any US-led attack on Iraq will be Oil. It's the reason that the US changed the Afghan regime and its the reason they are now (fortunately) helping the Georgians, deal with their terrorist problem.

The US does not care about supporting democracy or human rights around the world - look at the regime they are cooperating with in Kyrgyzstan.

weeeeeee

like my grandpa used to say (rest his soul)...Kill em all and let David Hasselhoff sort em out.

well grandpa didnt have the full set of cards as i recall. but damn he could make a good mushroom soup

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Originally posted by ahlamalek here on TA freedom of speech is guaranteed... meaning as loong as you will post stuff that might be true, everyone in here will answer them back with other facts to counter them.... good luck

God bless Tranceaddict

To all those who say that Saddam has oppressed his people and he is hated there in his own country.... please think before you type. You have not beeen there so you wouldnt know.. you are probably receiving your info from CNN. Do you remember how many millions paraded the streets of Bagdad for Husseins birthday during the summer? It was overwhelming how many people were celebrating the guys birthday! But that doesnt make him a good guy.... and i think its ridiculous when Bush thinks that ATTACKING the whole nation to get one man is the best resort. If he were smart...and with all their supposed military intelligence.. tey could have done a secret assault on his compounds and taken him then.. why would they have to bomb cities and people for the THIRD fucking time just to get this guy?
I hope bush gets assasinated... he is no better than saddam... even worse...fucking monkey.

First they try finding Osama in the mountains...and in the process killing more Afghani's than were killed in the Septemeber 11th terrorist attacks.... now they plan on invading a nation and killing more people. But all we will see and hear on the American news channels are how "1 pilot was shot down": but we wont hear how his missle killed 300 people below. Im glad the pentegon was attcked on septemeber 11th...i dont beleive the people inside that building were innocent. They are the strategic planners who enforce murder in the world.

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Originally posted by Izzy go Bush! there are those who support you

sure there are... very, very, silly people.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King To all those who say that Saddam has oppressed his people and he is hated there in his own country.... please think before you type. You have not beeen there so you wouldnt know.. you are probably receiving your info from CNN. Do you remember how many millions paraded the streets of Bagdad for Husseins birthday during the summer? It was overwhelming how many people were celebrating the guys birthday! But that doesnt make him a good guy.... and i think its ridiculous when Bush thinks that ATTACKING the whole nation to get one man is the best resort. If he were smart...and with all their supposed military intelligence.. tey could have done a secret assault on his compounds and taken him then.. why would they have to bomb cities and people for the THIRD fucking time just to get this guy? I hope bush gets assasinated... he is no better than saddam... even worse...fucking monkey. First they try finding Osama in the mountains...and in the process killing more Afghani's than were killed in the Septemeber 11th terrorist attacks.... now they plan on invading a nation and killing more people. But all we will see and hear on the American news channels are how "1 pilot was shot down": but we wont hear how his missle killed 300 people below. Im glad the pentegon was attcked on septemeber 11th...i dont beleive the people inside that building were innocent. They are the strategic planners who enforce murder in the world.

The U.N. (specifically the U.S.) has directly and indirectly killed over 2 million people (estimate) in Iraq since the Gulf War. Information about the actions of the U.N. and the U.S. in Iraq can be found in the Archives of most online Anitwar websites. For relatively unvbiased info. you can always glance at Amnesty International's site... i dont have any specific view on attacking iraq, but i consider myself a pacifist and therefore would be against brute force.

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Originally posted by dj_nomiz btw, bush also wants to attack sadam coz there's personal conf;ict between them... i think itz coz sadam once tried to kill his dad or something, not sure

If thats the case, thats still a stupid decision as many lives will be lost , even american soldiers lives just because there was a family disput, and because of that the whole nation has to go onto a recesion and a whole of other problem, not including the conflict that would cause on the middle east and the whole world...

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Originally posted by ahlamalek here we go again.... fact: Israel has chemical and biological weapons fact: Israel has nuclear material and as much as 200 A-bombs and H-Bombs fact: Sharon is a war criminal for his involvement in mass killings in lebanon... he was even condemned in Israel. fact: from 1947 until 2002 Israel has defied 60+ UN resolutions which amount or are greater then the total of broken UN resolutions from all arab countries combiened... how blind and naive can you be? or maybe you think we accept double standards? fact: Israel is satans creation, well not... My opinion: more innocent lives will be lost by keeping the status quo. the arab/jews people are suffering and the world is under terroristic threat from the American/Israel satanic alliance. better we go to war, put in a new regime and let the israel people (all of them - arabs, jews, christian and all the rest) lead free, prosperious lives. i belive Sharon and his accolytes has to be gotten rid of as soon as possible.

*y wn*

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Originally posted by Cyrus King To all those who say that Saddam has oppressed his people and he is hated there in his own country.... please think before you type. You have not beeen there so you wouldnt know.. you are probably receiving your info from CNN. Do you remember how many millions paraded the streets of Bagdad for Husseins birthday during the summer? It was overwhelming how many people were celebrating the guys birthday! But that doesnt make him a good guy.... and i think its ridiculous when Bush thinks that ATTACKING the whole nation to get one man is the best resort. If he were smart...and with all their supposed military intelligence.. tey could have done a secret assault on his compounds and taken him then.. why would they have to bomb cities and people for the THIRD fucking time just to get this guy? I hope bush gets assasinated... he is no better than saddam... even worse...fucking monkey. First they try finding Osama in the mountains...and in the process killing more Afghani's than were killed in the Septemeber 11th terrorist attacks.... now they plan on invading a nation and killing more people. But all we will see and hear on the American news channels are how "1 pilot was shot down": but we wont hear how his missle killed 300 people below. Im glad the pentegon was attcked on septemeber 11th...i dont beleive the people inside that building were innocent. They are the strategic planners who enforce murder in the world.

WORD ! ! ! ! Bush wants to attack IRAQ for political and interest reasons ( OIL ), not because of security as what his goal is.
I just which americans will open their minds and eyes so they could see what this monkey is doing, until is too late. I just cant see how bush has SPOILED this country, something that took clinton so much effort to have this country stable... thank you bushy ...

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Originally posted by USMC_Greg here's how I feel about Iraq: WASTE THE MOTHA FUCKAS

i should kick your ass when you come to montreal just for saying that ...

i can understand you don't agree with someone else's opinion , but have you ever seen someone saying in here : bomb the motherfucking americans or bomb the motherfucking israelians ?

i suggest you grow up and realise what you have just said ...

Bush is a stupid fuck with his big mouth....he things he can make any disissions bij himself.....the mildwed ass he is....

I saw his words on the CNN....He was enjoying his words...
sometimes you saw his mean smile.....

Give everybody some good evidence and than say what saddam does have and how we have to stop this........

Bush is evil, Saddam is evil, we are all evil.

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Originally posted by LiquidX WORD ! ! ! ! Bush wants to attack IRAQ for political and interest reasons ( OIL ), not because of security as what his goal is. I just which americans will open their minds and eyes so they could see what this monkey is doing, until is too late. I just cant see how bush has SPOILED this country, something that took clinton so much effort to have this country stable... thank you bushy ...

HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAa

dies laughing.

that was quite possibly the dumbest thing ive ever heard in my life.

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Originally posted by fastmp3 i should kick your ass when you come to montreal just for saying that ... i can understand you don't agree with someone else's opinion , but have you ever seen someone saying in here : bomb the motherfucking americans or bomb the motherfucking israelians ? i suggest you grow up and realise what you have just said ...

When I said Iraq, I meant the Hussein supporters. I was drunk at the time and will appologize for the missunderstanding. Although, I'm not sure why your are all defensive for Iraq anyway?

Kick my ass? Fuck off.

Despite my miswording here, I do not repeal what I said in the other thread about Canada.

Ofcourse people in Iraq aupport Saddam he controls the media, and feeds his people lies and propaganda. Its the same reason that my grandpa still respects Stalin, even though he lived under him and saw the suffering first hand. Bush is dumb, but he's not as evil as Saddam.. that's just silly, he does his best to look out for his country (mind you he doesn't give a fyin fuck if he flushes the rest of the world down the crapper in the process).

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Originally posted by USMC_Greg When I said Iraq, I meant the Hussein supporters. I was drunk at the time and will appologize for the missunderstanding. Although, I'm not sure why your are all defensive for Iraq anyway? Kick my ass? Fuck off. Despite my miswording here, I do not repeal what I said in the other thread about Canada.

and why are you agressive about attacking Iraq ? you like it when innocents die ? sure sadam is bad and should leave , but it's not the iraqi ppl who have to suffer the consequences . and it's none of ur friggin business if i don't have the canadian flag on my profile (to answer you about the other thread) ... DIVERSITY NOT ASSIMILATION

I don't have good references but all that I'll post is true.
OK here it goes:
fact: saddam has chemical and biological weapons and has used them on innocent civilians before
fact: saddam got his weapons from guess who ? USA !!! that great land of freedom and seeking for peace.
How did that happend ? back in old years... A US General gave Iraq chemical and biological weapons so they could use them on Iran.
fact: Iraq never used them against Iran... oups
fact: Guess who's telling bush that they should bomb Iraq... that same general that gave them the weapons.. "hey man they still have our bombs... they could use them against us since we realized arabs hates us..." that guys is a donkey and a half.
US tried to have to space sheild to protect them against nuclear bomb and that type of stuff.. I'm wondering from who they are affraid tho..
fact: if you financing terrorism... you are a terrorism
fact: USA financed Osama in money and equipment back in tha days so he could attack the russians.
Final Fact: USA is doing terrorism !!! Hooooo that hurts.

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Originally posted by Izzy My opinion: better we go to war, put in a new regime and let the iraq people (all of them - kurds, sunni and all the rest) lead free, prosperious lives. I belive saddam has to be gotten rid of as soon as possible.

Yes that is a great idea man... Let's do a third USA... United States of Arabia !!! put your regime, open a mcDonalds give every body a T-shirt with the american flag on it and teach the kids that God bless America.
I believe that Bush and Sharon whores have to be gotten rid of as soon as possible.

UN told that if Usa attacks Iraq.. its gonna be the biggest mistake that america will ever do... I say it won't be the first time !!!

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Originally posted by DJ Charlie fact: if you financing terrorism... you are a terrorism fact: USA financed Osama in money and equipment back in tha days so he could attack the russians. Final Fact: USA is doing terrorism !!! Hooooo that hurts.

Osama wasn't a terrorist yet. He was Mujahadin (sp?) fighter, defending Afghanistan against unprovoked Soviet aggression. He didn't attack any russian civilians, only soldiers.

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Originally posted by astroboy Osama wasn't a terrorist yet. He was Mujahadin (sp?) fighter, defending Afghanistan against unprovoked Soviet aggression. He didn't attack any russian civilians, only soldiers.

what.,.. you are against the fact i just wrote ?

What I'm trying to tell is that the ol' meaning of war is stupid.
thats what happens when you get into other peoples business...

Are you tell us that killin soldiers is right ?
they are man... like you and I.

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