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Originally posted by Tyler James Do I just google "Gud Elektro lablz"? Where is the best place to get into contact? So far Soundcloud hasn't helped a lot besides having a few people listen to it.

what you do is find some tracks you really like that are in the same style you're producing. see what labels they're on. send a professional email to those labels.

blogs? same thing. send em an email.

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Originally posted by kadomony what you do is find some tracks you really like that are in the same style you're producing. see what labels they're on. send a professional email to those labels. blogs? same thing. send em an email.

Okay, I figured out what I need to know. I need to know exactly where I can do this. Finding the tracks and seeing their labels I can do on Soundcloud. But exactly which blogs would be the best for me?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Get your music signed to a good label. A successful, well-established and respected label will have the clout and the connections to get your music to DJs who will actually be interested in playing it.

I agree, I think this is the best way to get your music heard.

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Originally posted by Tyler James Okay, I figured out what I need to know. I need to know exactly where I can do this. Finding the tracks and seeing their labels I can do on Soundcloud. But exactly which blogs would be the best for me?

use this: www.elbo.ws
look up some track names and browse around to see who's posting stuff similar to you.

"my music isn't as bad as others"

SIGN RIGHT HERE

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Originally posted by Tyler James Do I just google "Gud Elektro lablz"? Where is the best place to get into contact? So far Soundcloud hasn't helped a lot besides having a few people listen to it.

Sigh. So you're almost certainly a teenager who's been listening to electronic music for about three years and producing for probably less than half of that. Normally I'd tell you to back to languishing in Internet obscurity for another five years until you learn the first thing about the scene you're so desperate to take by storm, but the one track I randomly listened to on your Soundcloud page was actually pretty good, so I'll nourish you with some scarcely-deserved advice.

Pick a DJ you really like, who plays the kind of music you want to make. Take two or three of their tracklists and research the labels each track comes from. Then go on Beatport and listen to the entire catalogue of each of those labels. If it sounds like they release music similar to yours, then there's at least an outside chance they will release your music. Google the label and find their webpage. A lot of labels will have a link, email address or section on their site where you can submit promos. If you can't find that kind of link, you can at least find their Soundcloud page, or the Soundcloud page of whichever DJ or producer owns the label and send them a message, although 50,000 other 18 year olds will be doing the exact same thing so don't hold your breath. Take your very best track, work on it for another two or three weeks to make it as perfect as possible, then send that to them. Go back to the start of this paragraph and repeat it again with another DJ you really like.

Don't know any DJs you really like? You're fucked. You're going nowhere in the scene. Start listening more. Listen to loads of music, find out who's releasing it, follow those labels. The more you know about the topography of the scene, the better your chances of getting somewhere in it. Being some ignorant 18 year old who walks onto a forum and asks for the complete magic formula to being Skrillex Part 2 is not the way to do it, because those 50,000 other 18 year olds I mentioned earlier are all competing with you and only .5% of them will come close to getting signed, so you'd better work damn hard to stand out from the pack.

And the bad news is that although your music is quite interesting, you've got a hell of a lot of work to do before it's well-produced enough for any respectable label to want to release it. So you'd better get ready to spend five years in Internet obscurity while you improve your studio skills.

It probably seems like I'm being a dick in this post. But actually I'm being very, very nice.

I'm constantly amazed when I meet producers that know fuck all about the scene they're trying to be a part of.

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Originally posted by Adam420 I'm constantly amazed when I meet producers that know fuck all about the scene they're trying to be a part of.

You can thank the Internet for that, as it allows people to hear music completely divorced of its native social context. The commercialisation of dance music in the US also means a generation of kids are now experiencing it from a distance: through TV or radio, a two dimensional image presented through a pop-culture apparatus with no indication of how it got there or where it came from. These kids aren't getting involved in an underground scene and then deciding to take their involvement one step further by producing tracks. They're watching Deadmau5 on MTV in their bedroom and scratching their heads at how to bridge the gap between that bedroom and the image on the screen.

True. I think it's also because a lot of times these days it's like this

fan -> producer

whereas it used to be

fan -> clubber -> dj -> producer

obviously a lot of the knowledge and experience gained by going out for many years and djing is completely lost.

Re: Getting recognized?

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Originally posted by Tyler James How the hell is someone supposed to get recognized today? I understand it takes time and effort, but that's pretty much all I know. I make music, I put it up in places, I'm pretty active, and I participate. What else is there? I can't DJ my shit (not that I wouldn't want to), and I can't make super mainstream shit (because it's against my morals and standards). Do I have to do that? Also, I don't want to mess with beatport right now. It seems stupid.

you got to do what eminem did and battle mother******s on the streets until dr dre finds you

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Sigh. So you're almost certainly a teenager who's been listening to electronic music for about three years and producing for probably less than half of that. Normally I'd tell you to back to languishing in Internet obscurity for another five years until you learn the first thing about the scene you're so desperate to take by storm, but the one track I randomly listened to on your Soundcloud page was actually pretty good, so I'll nourish you with some scarcely-deserved advice. Pick a DJ you really like, who plays the kind of music you want to make. Take two or three of their tracklists and research the labels each track comes from. Then go on Beatport and listen to the entire catalogue of each of those labels. If it sounds like they release music similar to yours, then there's at least an outside chance they will release your music. Google the label and find their webpage. A lot of labels will have a link, email address or section on their site where you can submit promos. If you can't find that kind of link, you can at least find their Soundcloud page, or the Soundcloud page of whichever DJ or producer owns the label and send them a message, although 50,000 other 18 year olds will be doing the exact same thing so don't hold your breath. Take your very best track, work on it for another two or three weeks to make it as perfect as possible, then send that to them. Go back to the start of this paragraph and repeat it again with another DJ you really like. Don't know any DJs you really like? You're fucked. You're going nowhere in the scene. Start listening more. Listen to loads of music, find out who's releasing it, follow those labels. The more you know about the topography of the scene, the better your chances of getting somewhere in it. Being some ignorant 18 year old who walks onto a forum and asks for the complete magic formula to being Skrillex Part 2 is not the way to do it, because those 50,000 other 18 year olds I mentioned earlier are all competing with you and only .5% of them will come close to getting signed, so you'd better work damn hard to stand out from the pack. And the bad news is that although your music is quite interesting, you've got a hell of a lot of work to do before it's well-produced enough for any respectable label to want to release it. So you'd better get ready to spend five years in Internet obscurity while you improve your studio skills. It probably seems like I'm being a dick in this post. But actually I'm being very, very nice.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You can thank the Internet for that, as it allows people to hear music completely divorced of its native social context. The commercialisation of dance music in the US also means a generation of kids are now experiencing it from a distance: through TV or radio, a two dimensional image presented through a pop-culture apparatus with no indication of how it got there or where it came from. These kids aren't getting involved in an underground scene and then deciding to take their involvement one step further by producing tracks. They're watching Deadmau5 on MTV in their bedroom and scratching their heads at how to bridge the gap between that bedroom and the image on the screen.

^^These are both great posts.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Skrillex Part 2

Electric Boogaloo

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Originally posted by Tyler James There aren't a lot of local DJs here in Marysville and Everett though.

That's not Seattle...

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Originally posted by kadomony Electric Boogaloo

Haha, haven't heard that one for a long time.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Sigh. So you're almost certainly a teenager who's been listening to electronic music for about three years and producing for probably less than half of that....

No offense, but how about you fuck off with the assumptions. Like you know who I am just by reading a few posts I made on the forum. Holy fuck. Is it lonely up there on your pedestal? Step down for a second and reread what you wrote because if you look closely, you're pretty much just telling me what Kadomony said just less respectfully and with more words and a little more detail. You have no actual advice to give that hasn't already been given, so why do you feel the need to feel superior over anyone else? Especially me. What the fuck did I do to you?

I never asked for a "magic formula" to become the next big thing. I asked for advice on how to get more recognized where I'm currently at. I'm sorry that I just want to feel a little more accomplished with my music.

Shit. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the "advice" but I'm not going to take your shit without at least attempting to defend myself. I understand what you're saying and it does make me happy that (despite your attitude towards me) you do enjoy my music, but couldn't you have shown me the same basic respect that I would have showed you given the chance?

It's common fucking courtesy.

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Originally posted by Lews That's not Seattle...

I commute to Seattle a lot and I'm planning on living there in the next year or so.

A guy who hasn't been around very long and already has System Jackass figured out. Lol.

Yet not a shred of actual refutation toward Jack. Just a lot of "you don't know me!!!" teenage shit. He just got dadded.

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Originally posted by Tyler James I'm sorry that I just want to feel a little more accomplished with my music.

Typical 'Sorrynotsorry' horseshit, the same spewed up in rivers by millennials every day that Buzzfeed stuffs your trough. Making music is an end of itself; the world owes you no recognition.

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Originally posted by Tyler James It's common fucking courtesy.

Don't take it personally. Intentional or not, J's just giving you a taste of the dickishness you're likely to deal with in the music industry at large. Almost everyone new gets treated with a total lack of respect.

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Originally posted by Sykonee a taste of the dick... you're likely to deal with in the music industry at large.

Happy suckling!

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Originally posted by Tyler James No offense, but how about you fuck off with the assumptions. Like you know who I am just by reading a few posts I made on the forum.

Your posts and your Facebook scream teenager. I especially liked your opinion on immigration. Judging by everything you've written I'm guessing you're 18 and a senior in high school.

Not that J needs anyone to defend him, but you should really not have that attitude when someone offers you exactly what you asked for, just not in the manner you expected. The world is a harsh, cold place outside of "Seattle."

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Originally posted by Sykonee Don't take it personally. Intentional or not, J's just giving you a taste of the dickishness you're likely to deal with in the music industry at large. Almost everyone new gets treated with a total lack of respect.

It's not even that, it's just the way he seemed to think he was the shit and thinks I should bow down to his almighty opinion. I don't know, but people like that piss me off.

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Originally posted by Lews Your posts and your Facebook scream teenager. I especially liked your opinion on immigration. Judging by everything you've written I'm guessing you're 18 and a senior in high school. Not that J needs anyone to defend him, but you should really not have that attitude when someone offers you exactly what you asked for, just not in the manner you expected. The world is a harsh, cold place outside of "Seattle."

I did appreciate the advice but I wasn't going to take his snide remarks up the ass. My "scream" teenager picture wasn't actually a scream. It's more of a creepy ass smile that I made as a joke to my friends.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Typical 'Sorrynotsorry' horseshit, the same spewed up in rivers by millennials every day that Buzzfeed stuffs your trough. Making music is an end of itself; the world owes you no recognition.

What the hell? Did I ever say in any post that I thought anyone owed me any recognition. No. I only stated that I wanted to get more recognized with the help of your guy's advice. True, I didn't react to one person's word of advice like I should have but oh well, what's said is said and I mean't every word.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+on+on Yet not a shred of actual refutation toward Jack. Just a lot of "you don't know me!!!" teenage shit. He just got dadded.

I wasn't trying to refute anything. I was just trying to tell him that he was being an arrogant ass and that I didn't appreciate it.

You have a couple of tracks I like. If you're serious about what you do, I would slow it down and really think about what you want out of music. Do you want to emulate or innovate? Grab inspiration from all you favorite music and develop a unique sound which I believe gets you noticed. Stay true to yourself.

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Originally posted by Tyler James No offense, but how about you fuck off with the assumptions. Like you know who I am just by reading a few posts I made on the forum. Holy fuck. Is it lonely up there on your pedestal? Step down for a second and reread what you wrote because if you look closely, you're pretty much just telling me what Kadomony said just less respectfully and with more words and a little more detail. You have no actual advice to give that hasn't already been given, so why do you feel the need to feel superior over anyone else? Especially me. What the fuck did I do to you? I never asked for a "magic formula" to become the next big thing. I asked for advice on how to get more recognized where I'm currently at. I'm sorry that I just want to feel a little more accomplished with my music. Shit. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the "advice" but I'm not going to take your shit without at least attempting to defend myself. I understand what you're saying and it does make me happy that (despite your attitude towards me) you do enjoy my music, but couldn't you have shown me the same basic respect that I would have showed you given the chance? It's common fucking courtesy. I commute to Seattle a lot and I'm planning on living there in the next year or so.

Outstanding. This is the kind of meltdown I was hoping for. Didn�t expect it considering jack actually said his productions were decent. But glad he didn�t disappoint!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Outstanding. This is the kind of meltdown I was hoping for. Didn�t expect it considering jack actually said his productions were decent. But glad he didn�t disappoint!

Ha Ha. I'm glad it amused you.

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