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Posted by jonmitz on Dec-15-2013 04:44:

Heh, vetoing "new york city".

Also, you're not taking place ziptnf? I guess that makes sense but you're one of the better DJs here


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-15-2013 06:42:

I was going to participate but I can't think of a theme yet. I'll post one later.


Posted by Bierheld on Dec-17-2013 15:45:

For what it's worth I don't think a round of vetoes is necessary here. It's just a theme, it's not even that important what it is since the interpretation is going to be completely up to you. You can't really get pigeonholed into playing something you don't want to play and whether or not it turns into an interesting set is going to be completely dependent on what you make of it anyway.

That being said, in response to a thread we had a while ago on MD I would like to go with spiritualism as a theme.
As the thread alluded to people seam to have very different interpretations of the term in a musical context. It'll be interesting to hear.


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-17-2013 16:13:

I don't know if that's necessarily the case. It's easier to be more creative with themes like hacking/cybersecrecy and nostalgia, but it's not quite as easy to be creative with themes like video games and dark space. The interpretations of those themes are a little more narrow than the others.

Say, where is Adam Soloman, the dude who suggested that we do themes in the first place? And Jack? You guys aren't interested in this challenge?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-17-2013 16:48:

I don't really want to piss on your strawberries or anything, but you have been very zealous in organising a whole itinerary of challenges across the next two years, and we�re signing up for this one without even a clear idea of what the rules are. It strikes me as very hasty. Conventionally a theme challenge is a running thing, and different master themes are offered up on each challenge, which allows people to participate if they see an idea that inspires them. A one-off edition is going to end up with a never-ending debate about the theme, and I don�t want to sign up without any idea what the concept is. To be honest I�m just left feeling very apathetic towards further challenges after the big discussion we had, because it seems very obvious to me that not everyone�s heart is going to be in any of the options that were mooted.


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-17-2013 18:17:

I mean, I sort of agree with you. Perhaps I have been trying to please everyone, due to the fact that the thread where we were trying to come up with a new challenge had a host of ideas being shot back and forth and nobody really jumping on one idea or another except the traditional genre challenge. I guess since nobody really offered up any other structure of how we should approach the 6 different ideas that were posed in that thread, I just thought we should do all of them. I didn't want to have challenge after challenge all packed in one year either, since people have actual lives and don't want to spend all their time and money bothering with this.

Also, it's not like it's too late to change the schedule moving forward either. If we do 2 themes a year and 1 genre challenge a year, then the "master crate" ideas will be ditched entirely and the variety of challenges will be much less.

I guess I was trying to do too much. Less is more, after all, right?

What say everybody? Ditch the master crate ideas and just go for themes and genre challenges?

Also, while I have you here, Jack, how do you think themes should be chosen?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-17-2013 18:40:

Having mulled it over a little, I actually think "science fiction" is a really good suggestion for this one, because if you look at other suggestions such as "space" and "cyber secrecy" they fall into similar territory. SF is broad enough to let people pick concepts-within-concepts (you could do a space exploration mix, a hacker mix, a giant robot apocalypse mix or a mix inspired by a particular film, novel or comic, to give just a few examples) and yet it's something easy to evoke with electronic music. If everyone's cool with SF as a concept, I'm definitely down for this.

Also: why not just roll with it? Run this one, see how it goes down, and if it's a success build on it.


Posted by Lews on Dec-18-2013 09:04:

Jack/Nick/others, would "Science Fiction & Fantasy" be too broad? I'd prefer SF & Fantasy, just to give people more room, but would be happy to do SF only; I don't have any experience with "theme challenges" to know better.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-18-2013 13:16:

I personally don't like conflating SF with fantasy, but that's because I'm an insufferable wanker trying to intellectually validate my tastes.


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-18-2013 14:18:

Idk if I would combine Science Fiction and Fantasy. Both categories can be broad enough to stand on their own.


Posted by Lews on Dec-20-2013 09:01:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I personally don't like conflating SF with fantasy, but that's because I'm an insufferable wanker trying to intellectually validate my tastes.




I like Terry Pratchett and Game of Thrones (I liked it before it was popular ), otherwise I think my insufferable intellectual wanker validations are still in good order.

In all sober seriousness, are we agreed on SF?


Posted by Bierheld on Dec-20-2013 13:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
In all sober seriousness, are we agreed on SF?
Well some people are, I would concede as well. Can't speak for the others though.

Maybe just let everyone make a plea for his theme and let zip decide in the end? It would be all like democratic and stuff.


Posted by jonmitz on Dec-20-2013 23:32:

Not that it's a big deal but my suggestions were two themes, dark or space(y). I think together it is too narrow. They're just two mix ideas I've had for a while but never sat down to pick tracks for them so thought i'd throw it out there.

I can see where i'd begin for things like 'video games' although it wouldnt be a long mix, as far as sci fi/fantasy, i dont even fucking know where to start lol
e: re-read a post and see that things like space would fall under this. wasn't thinking broad enough


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-26-2013 21:38:

If I were to veto something it would be "New York City". I guess I can see being open to interpretation but there's a chance people haven't been to NYC so why would we make them do a themed mix on a city which they have never visited?

Also, can I get some clarification on what exactly FUBAR is?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-26-2013 21:40:

Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition.

Have you never seen Saving Private Ryan?


Posted by Psyshell on Dec-27-2013 06:56:

quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
If I were to veto something it would be "New York City". I guess I can see being open to interpretation but there's a chance people haven't been to NYC so why would we make them do a themed mix on a city which they have never visited?

There's loads of TV shows and movies set in new york city though. I'm sure everyone would've seen at least one. Also, presumably the theme really is essentially what it means to you. It's not really important if people get the mood of a city "wrong"... and it'd be quite hard to tell if they did anyway. Also as far as I know there isn't much electronic music that is fantasy themed outside of psy/ambient/ebm.


Posted by jonmitz on Jan-03-2014 18:33:

Three days and the gloves come off


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-03-2014 19:19:

Well, I may as well sign up and also nominate "Science Fiction". I can always drop out in the next stage.


Posted by djdk on Jan-04-2014 16:12:

Im in

Theme suggestion: canals


Posted by jonmitz on Jan-04-2014 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
Theme suggestion: canals



Posted by ziptnf on Jan-05-2014 23:05:

Out of all the categories, Science Fiction was the one that had the broadest scope, with the most opportunity for interpretation. Please include "Hacking/Cybersecurity" and "Dark/space" as sub-themes to this selection.

I also suggest you take a look at these additional sub-themes if you'd like to refine your mix scope a little more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego..._fiction_genres

The contest begins now. If you have already signed up, you cannot drop out.

You have until February 3rd to complete your mix. It's not like I can stop you from posting if you complete it outside that time frame, but you will not be eligible for the next challenge if you do not complete it in time.

Also, I have removed the second challenge listed in May for the dropbox/master crate mixes. We will see how this challenge goes and look to add new categories as time goes on. The traditional genre challenge is still scheduled for September.

Good luck, and happy mixing!


Posted by Psyshell on Jan-05-2014 23:31:

Sounds good, listening to some potential tracks for the challenge right now. Thanks for running the challenge Ziptnf!


Posted by Bierheld on Jan-05-2014 23:32:

Sweet. Was kind of hoping it would be that one, although I liked the fubar idea as well. Let's get to it then.


Posted by jonmitz on Jan-06-2014 01:49:

gunna try to go for a space themed mix. for me, i think that will be very challenging (want to keep this difficult for myself) to choose a solid selection of tracks. happy mixing to you all


Posted by Lews on Jan-06-2014 02:14:

Nick, I realize now I never specifically said I was in, but I'm in


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