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yeah, or i mean, a rather quick survey over the situation could make it appear as though that is indeed what happened. but im no computer expert, so i can't say for sure.

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Originally posted by Lira (though I can't understand the rush in leaving one's parents' house).

It's a westernised parent/child relationship thing and primarily due to the fact that both parties are unreconcilable after 18 years of domestic hell.
Ethnics on the other hand, Italians, Greeks, Indians, Arabs etc, are raised to respect their elders or know to get a smack across the back of the head or a rabbit punch to the liver.
Whitey's don't beat their kids enough to get any kind of respect or proper fear happening, so they spend most of those formative years screaming ineffectually at one another until finally 'Im an adult, I don't have to take your crap' usually followed by the reply of 'thank christ they've gone, now we can wander around the house semi naked again and don't have to feed their fat lazy arses'.

Seriously, if I hadn't met HRH when she was at home with her parents, she probably would still be there... 28 working as a lawyer, mooching off their pantry and probably sleeping under my little pony bedsheets in a single bed like most wog kids do. The first thing wog parents want to know is- how much you make, can you feed their baby and do you have a house. Not actually anything like, do you actually love them, are you shipping in a tonne of drugs a month or actually a criminal underworld axe murderer like most whiteys would ask potential suitors.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Speaking of America, there is an active school shooting not 5 minutes from me right now. Huzzah.

How many did you bag this time?

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Originally posted by Lews Did Theresa get away with saying that? Because she certainly shouldn't have lol

I stand corrected, she obviously got enough flack for that, the poor girl

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Originally posted by Lews Yes, we certainly have split along ethnic lines in the sense of neighborhoods. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that whites have the most purchasing power, and so tend to buy up property in choice areas, where other ethnicities can't afford to live. It also just has to do with the waves in which people came to this country and where they came from.

Yeah, that's a bit exotic to me. Surely, the further South you go in Brazil, the more European we look; likewise, people from the North often look like Native Brazilians and there's a strong African Brazilian presence in cities like Salvador. But I miss the shades of grey there, so to speak... even if I don't find the main concept completely alien.

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Originally posted by Lilith Seriously, if I hadn't met HRH when she was at home with her parents, she probably would still be there... 28 working as a lawyer, mooching off their pantry and probably sleeping under my little pony bedsheets in a single bed like most wog kids do.

ARE YOU DATING MY SISTER!?

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Originally posted by Lilith Seriously, if I hadn't met HRH when she was at home with her parents, she probably would still be there... 28 working as a lawyer, mooching off their pantry and probably sleeping under my little pony bedsheets in a single bed like most wog kids do. The first thing wog parents want to know is- how much you make, can you feed their baby and do you have a house. Not actually anything like, do you actually love them, are you shipping in a tonne of drugs a month or actually a criminal underworld axe murderer like most whiteys would ask potential suitors.

LMAO

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Originally posted by Vector A True or false?

Only someone who is not from a post-colonial culture could ask that.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Because it's true- in most every corner of the world, people will live with their parents well into adulthood, and it's generally free from the same stigma people in the US place on it.

It's exactly the same here. If you're still living with your parents beyond the age of 23 you're considered an oddity. I suspect it's a cultural aspect that probably originated here, which is why Lilith, an Australian, also reports it over there.

I moved out when I was 18, and I couldn't wait a day longer. I think my Dad would have thrown me out if I'd stayed any longer anyway. So "both parties are unreconcilable after 18 years of domestic hell" is pretty much on the money.

Yeah, I moved out when I was 17, to move to Brisbane for Uni. I knew loads of people that had grown up in the city here that still lived with their parents while they were studying, but very rarely any longer than that. Once they graduated, BAM. Gone.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Only someone who is not from a post-colonial culture could ask that.

I'm trying to parse this and failing. What exactly do you mean?

Nou is a cautionary tale of staying @ home too long. Moral of the story don't be Nou.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's exactly the same here. If you're still living with your parents beyond the age of 23 you're considered an oddity. I suspect it's a cultural aspect that probably originated here, which is why Lilith, an Australian, also reports it over there.

Something about Anglo culture, then?

I'm actually quite curious about this, now.

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Originally posted by Vector A I'm trying to parse this and failing. What exactly do you mean?

Well, maybe we need to define "globalisation". But most post-colonial nations have huge influxes of immigrants from former colonies who inevitably import culture wholesale, and that has nothing to do with America. When people talk about "globalisation" they tend to use the image of the high street with a McDonalds, a Starbucks and an American Apparel, but for me the image of a mosque standing amongst rows of terraced Victorian townhouses built for 19th century cotton workers is just as "globalised" an image - architecture, culture and religions from thousands of miles apart standing side by side in the street - and America is nowhere in the frame. The issue of integration is a big one in Western Europe in particular, because other cultures don't just get assimilated, they exert an influence the other way.

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Originally posted by Jon_Snow Nou is a cautionary tale of staying @ home too long. Moral of the story don't be Nou.

Actually, this is what made me curious in the first place: Based on this fact alone, you know what we'd call Nou down here? Normal

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Originally posted by Lews Something about Anglo culture, then? I'm actually quite curious about this, now.

Good question, and I think so. I can't think of a single TA from the European continent that doesn't live with his or her parents unless they had to move to some other city for work.

By the way, one last thing: I spend so much time here that I do believe that this is by far the main reason why I left the nest age 24. I kind of wanted to know what this fuzz was all about

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well, maybe we need to define "globalisation". But most post-colonial nations have huge influxes of immigrants from former colonies who inevitably import culture wholesale, and that has nothing to do with America. When people talk about "globalisation" they tend to use the image of the high street with a McDonalds, a Starbucks and an American Apparel, but for me the image of a mosque standing amongst rows of terraced Victorian townhouses built for 19th century cotton workers is just as "globalised" an image - architecture, culture and religions from thousands of miles apart standing side by side in the street - and America is nowhere in the frame. The issue of integration is a big one in Western Europe in particular, because other cultures don't just get assimilated, they exert an influence the other way.

True. Actually, this was my point as well (though I started by saying the question was false, rather than by denying it's valid, which I believe is how you approached it).

Brazil: where Nou is perfectly normal.

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Originally posted by Vector A Brazil: where Nou is perfectly normal.

I did say "based on this fact alone"

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Originally posted by Lira Actually, this is what made me curious in the first place: Based on this fact alone, you know what we'd call Nou down here? Normal

Coming from a country that gave us 2 girls 1 cup, I'd say you don't have a normal leg to stand on.

Ah, so you haunt scat forums too then, eh?

AMERICA.

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Originally posted by Vector A Brazil: where Nou is perfectly normal.

Only in Florid... Wait, wut?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On An excellent point; Manifest Destiny has been with us all along, and easily why we have trouble staying the fuck out of other countries.

There was another policy that I forget that name of that involved America refering to South America as it's "backyard" that's been in force since the 1800s. It seems like somewhere between world war 1 and the end of world war 2 they extended that to mean the rest of the world. Plus I guess there's the aspect of the cold war (at least somewhat) necessitating the need to interfere in countries around the world's internal affairs and once that pattern had been established it wasn't simply relinquished merely because the soviet union fell.

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Originally posted by Lilith The first thing wog parents want to know is- how much you make, can you feed their baby and do you have a house. Not actually anything like, do you actually love them, are you shipping in a tonne of drugs a month or actually a criminal underworld axe murderer like most whiteys would ask potential suitors.

Ha sounds exactly like my girlfriend's (maltese father +english/french/euro mother) family. The son's a lawyer and he moved out with his gf for 6 months just to get tax incentives on their investment property. Right after the required time was up though it's straight back into the family home. The interconnectedness freaks me the fuck out sometimes. Like one time my girlfiend bailed on me because her mum organised for her to hang out with her 26 year old sister without consulting either of them. My reaction was just like how the hell is that normal?

So far as I can tell Australians (or certainly English/European/American Australians) seem to be exactly the same or similar in terms of views of children moving out from home. A lot of parents want the kids to move out as soon as they finish uni; or alternatively that and they make the kids pay board once they're 18. It seems like a lot more kids are staying at home till 25-28 lately though because property prices are so expensive in Melbourne at least.

Re: Cultural globalization = Americanization of everything

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Originally posted by Vector A True or false?

False. The Globalist Take-Over of America.

Marxism. Immigration Reform. Big Brother. European Style Welfare. Self-Imposed Multiculturalism . Destruction of Constitution & Sovereignity . Debasement of U.S Dollar. Debasement of Judeo-Christian values. Rise of Neo-Stalinism & A New Cold War.

The globalists are in control: the program is now planted in America . It has been done in other countries before.

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Originally posted by Lira By the way, one last thing: I spend so much time here that I do believe that this is by far the main reason why I left the nest age 24. I kind of wanted to know what this fuzz was all about

I'm sorry Lira, you're a lovely bloke and everything, but you must be really fucking boring. How can you possibly live with your parents in your mid-20s and do anything fun?

You gave us trick or treaters, fuck you murrica.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm sorry Lira, you're a lovely bloke and everything, but you must be really fucking boring. How can you possibly live with your parents in your mid-20s and do anything fun?

Must be the psuedo hippy parents!

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Ah, so you haunt scat forums too then, eh?

When you're treated to shit you perform shit?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I almost wonder if it was sustained economic and political conditions that caused such a cultural gulf. Because it's true- in most every corner of the world, people will live with their parents well into adulthood, and it's generally free from the same stigma people in the US place on it. But in its halcyon century (now well past), the US experienced a grand shift from factory and industry to clerical, financial labour with leisurely incentive. There were jobs, homes were affordable, family was encouraged as an atomic opportunity to thrive in a cellular manner. Well, that's gone, and the incidence of people living with their parents has seen a sharp rise in just the last decade- the burgeoning uncertainty is creating a trend that I think is going to continually reunite people within their tribes. I don't know if it's good or bad, it's just a thing.

I have to imagine that collectivism is more conducive to the survival of a society, something that this atomic reunification certainly lends itself to. Whether or not you feel this is a good thing just depends upon how you feel about 'traditionally collective' vs. 'progressively individualistic' societies in the first place (assuming that's a fairly dichotomous distinction to make AND HI HAL!)

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm sorry Lira, you're a lovely bloke and everything, but you must be really fucking boring. How can you possibly live with your parents in your mid-20s and do anything fun?

Not to come and ruin his fun, but the way I read it he left his parents house at 24. He's like more than 30 now. He blocked me on FB so can't tell exactly how old he is, but he's definitely an old guy. In your defense he could've made it more clear by phrasing it "left the nest aged 24", but us nerds gots to have some fun, and speaking in archaic ways are one source of that.

In conclusion I want to share this story with you.
A guy walks into a bar, System-J is the bartender. He sees a sign over
the counter that says "Cheese Sandwich �1,50, Handjobs �10"
He says to System-J, "Are you the one who gives the handjobs?".
"Yes, I am," answers System-J and the guy says "Well, wash your hands bitch, I want a cheese sandwich".
Good night!

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Originally posted by itsamemario He blocked me on FB

Lol @ sys j joke. I feel nauseous just thinking of his fat sweaty hands making me a sandwich.

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