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Originally posted by ghostshrooms Understandably it's pop. 14 year olds and others like pop. Different genres, different tastes, not necessarily poor contemptible music tastes.

Yea, true. It's pop. But at 14 I was listening to Ice Cube if that means anything.

I guess I just can't believe how much he's "sold out." (I hate that term, btw.)

As an artist myself (writer), I can imagine changing that much no matter how many zeros, bottles, or thongs it guaranteed me.

EDIT: Haha. "Writer"


Can't*

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And I have to fucking listen to it, as if it were real music. It's like having to give a job interview to a labrador dressed in a bespoke pinstripe.

This shit was hilarious.

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Originally posted by OrangestO Signed,

Is that you in the pic? please tell me it's you in the pic!
I can't believe ANYONE has made a tattoo of tiest0r

Where is that pic of the guy with a Hardwell, Avicii and Tiesto tattoo....

I didn't even know Tiesto had made a new album. i thought he was just doing the "club life" stuff.

I haven't heard the "album" so I can't comment, however, while us veterans may all hate the music Tiesto now plays you have to admit he is doing something right for prolonging his career -- the kids eat up whatever he plays and those who remember him 'back in the day' are not really coming out to parties any more. Us, the die-hards, who live and breathe electronic music, are offended... but if the 'shit' he plays brings pleasure to the new crop of kids entering the scene who are we to rain on their parade?

(Using all my powers not to become a jaded raver... )

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Originally posted by Swamper those who remember him 'back in the day' are not really coming out to parties any more

theres a reason for that

The whole review just reeks of attention-seeking to me. Bashing Tiësto is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery The whole review just reeks of attention-seeking to me. Bashing Tiësto is like shooting fish in a barrel.

DJ Mag don't get a great deal of choice in what they write about. Promo companies pay for them to cover things. This particular writer probably had no desire to write a single word about Tiesto.

I didn't have much choice with my review either. I did because we wanted to cover big names to generate web traffic, and I'd dodged out of covering several awful releases in a row, leaving some other poor bastard to do it. Eventually Sykonee forced me to cover it so I got blind drunk and just wrote the first words that came to find. It turned out to be the most popular review I've ever written.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It turned out to be the most popular review I've ever written.

My point exactly.

Your point is wrong. DJ Mag are not going to boost their sales with some 100 word capsule review of a Tiesto album. They cover it because they directly get paid to cover it. How many people read those words is irrelevant to their editorial policy.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Your point is wrong. DJ Mag are not going to boost their sales with some 100 word capsule review of a Tiesto album. They cover it because they directly get paid to cover it. How many people read those words is irrelevant to their editorial policy.

Obviously not directly, but by hoping the review would go viral like this. Had the artist been some relative unknown with his first album, that review would had been rejected right away.

Also, I seem to remember you actually tried to analyze the album somewhat in your review, whereas this one could had been for just about any dance-pop album if you changed the names/titles.

Maybe it's jaded for me to think this way, but bashing a record doesn't always require a sledgehammer.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Obviously not directly, but by hoping the review would go viral like this. Had the artist been some relative unknown with his first album, that review would had been rejected right away.

Well, the reason I say all this because my friend got his new record reviewed in DJ Mag recently, despite him being almost totally unknown. The record label he put it out on spent some money on a promo company who then paid DJ Mag to feature it in their review section. Their "review" consisted of rewriting his biography and then summing up the music itself in literally one sentence. If DJ Mag had put Tiesto's name on the front cover or ran some big article on him then I would agree they were covering him for attention, but these capsule reviews are done just for the dollar.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well, the reason I say all this because my friend got his new record reviewed in DJ Mag recently, despite him being almost totally unknown. The record label he put it out on spent some money on a promo company who then paid DJ Mag to feature it in their review section. Their "review" consisted of rewriting his biography and then summing up the music itself in literally one sentence. If DJ Mag had put Tiesto's name on the front cover or ran some big article on him then I would agree they were covering him for attention, but these capsule reviews are done just for the dollar.

Point. It's not like anyone could get very deep in such a limited space anyway.

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Originally posted by OrangestO Signed,

No offense, but why would you put that symbol on your body. It was during that time his music started to suck.

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 No offense, but why would you put that symbol on your body. It was during that time his music started to suck.

Two reasons. One, it symbolizes a time in my life when I started finding some sort of peace. The dove and sun - to me - are a representation of that. Second, he introduced me to this music. No matter what he's become today, I'll always appreciate him for his earlier work because I love dance music with all my heart and he was the DJ who introduced me to it on a larger scale (through the Magik/ISOS series and the first event I ever attended). The tat is bigger than Tiesto. Sure, it's his traditional so-called logo, but most people who see it don't ever know it pertains to a dance DJ cause his name isn't inked on my skin. To me, that would be overboard.

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Originally posted by OrangestO Two reasons. One, it symbolizes a time in my life when I started finding some sort of peace. The dove and sun - to me - are a representation of that. Second, he introduced me to this music. No matter what he's become today, I'll always appreciate him for his earlier work because I love dance music with all my heart and he was the DJ who introduced me to it on a larger scale (through the Magik/ISOS series and the first event I ever attended). The tat is bigger than Tiesto. Sure, it's his traditional so-called logo, but most people who see it don't ever know it pertains to a dance DJ cause his name isn't inked on my skin. To me, that would be overboard.

Oh well that explains it.

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 No offense, but why would you put that symbol on your body. It was during that time his music started to suck.

You think that's bad, check this out lol

http://forum.anjunabeats.com/topic/69432-anjuna-tatoos-yes-again/

IMO do what you want and don't let other idiots get to you. Tatts are fine with me and its not like he wrote plur on his fore head.

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Originally posted by Sykonee DJMag wants to be taken seriously as a credible journalistic source for all things electronic music orientated, and if that means tearing down the commercial juggernauts of the scene, so be it. Frankly, if slamming a new Tiesto album is how they figure they'll earn underground cred', they're going about it in a sad, petulant way. They want to get all hip and snarky about these things, but lack any finesse in doing so (sorry, chaps, but you'll never be Muzik Magazine). No one's ever going to take them seriously while they continue running their annual DJ popularity contest, no matter how many weak appeals to the underground like ripping on Tiesto they continue making. To be honest, I think they should just embrace it, become full-on purveyors of all things EDM cheddar, though in a slightly underhanded way if they must.

All that said, it is and he still is talentless shite. The majority of his work produced in his name was written by other people. Any sell outs such as Tijs deserve this !

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Originally posted by Titanium You think that's bad, check this out lol http://forum.anjunabeats.com/topic/...toos-yes-again/

haha, nothing worse than having cheesy vocal lyrics on your arms FOREVER.

I haven't listened to anything Tiesto has made within the past few years, except Young Lions, which was alright I suppose and iTrance which was fucking putrid garbage.
Whenever I see an album that has "featuring" next to the majority of the song titles, I make a note to avoid the everloving piss out of it. Fuck this garbage electro pop these washed up hacks are vomiting out.
It's like they achieve major success producing and spinning trance, then when trance isn't the "MTV thing" anymore, they start putting out mainstream crap...it doesn't sell, they lose popularity, they get poor reviews, and yet they continue to clutch at these garbage genres desperately hoping that they'll strike gold.

I really don't get it.

DJ mag having this sudden revelation that Tiesto is shit, is like OK! magazine announcing "Liberace is Gay! Shock Horror!".

If they'd have done it in 2005, shit even 2008, then maybe there would be some glimmer of purpose to disassociate themselves from the tripe that Tjis decided to put out, but now?

It's less like shooting fish in a barrel; more like putting dead fish in a barrel then telling everyone you shot them.

I have a feeling that the reviewer wanted to hear the sound of his own voice and write something that would get him attention.

In terms of Teiesto's choices....

you have to realise (as I'm sure Paul Oakenfold did) that once you've been there/done that, has the cred of someone at the top, you've had the 50,000 people chanting your name for the 100th time, playing to sold out venues where people will queue all night long just to be in your presencse.....you suddenly realise you may have to do this for the rest of your life.

But there's a problem. you no longer have the magic. Anything you do will be a pale and hollow shadow of the years when you could knock out musical genius in a few hours in the studio and not really have to articulate or even think about it. It just happened for you then.

But you've got used to the private jets. bored of the haters. Used to the penthouse suites, having hair and makeup go to every interview, hanging out with Bono at Davos and your country's prime minister "taking your call".

The choice is simple. Go with the marketing guys and the men who say yes. Let them buy you a a few grammys, maybe set up a few TV appearances, who knows maybe a cameo on CSI? It will pay for the house in the Malibu, that car you can't drive without totalling on it's maiden voyage and in just a few years of milking it and you'll have yacht money.

Fuck the cred, the integrity, the slaving away in dark studio to make something that won't stand up to the body of work you so easily transduced years before. You had that, and it meant you playing in grotty little clubs, getting knocked by eastern european promoters and living out of a suitcase while flying commercial with the great unwashed.

Seems like a lifetime away from being greeted like royalty as you roll up to the Wynn in a Maybach and all you have to do is play 2hours of music that someone else selected for you and get paid 7 figured for it.

and suddenly it strikes you that you don't want that old grind back.

It's endemic to every artistic industry, not just EDM.

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