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Posted by Magimaster on Oct-15-2002 07:07:

quote:
Originally posted by mikefasssy
Um, I'm into German hardtrance (as you can see). I think that it has an edge that other hardtrance lacks, I find that dumonde, cosmic gate, shokk, scot project are a bit too trancy for me.

Tru, Tru

I'd say Dumonde would probably be closest to Trance out of those you listed. Cosmic Gate and Scot P are on the harder side of things. Any harder than thoseand I'd be inclined to consider it someting else, not quite hardhouse, but defenitely not hardtrance.

suggestions?

Posted by Pandoneus on Oct-15-2002 07:20:

As already said it's hard to define where 'Hard Trance' begins, but for me there are a few producers who always stand for great hard trance tracks & remixes:

* DJ Scot Project
* Derb
* Cosmic Gate
* S.H.O.K.K.

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Posted by Cosmic on Feb-13-2003 14:49:

Anyone got new thought/ ideas?

Posted by chris_norris on Feb-13-2003 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Magimaster
1)Yoji Biomehanika - Banginglobe (DJ Scot P Rmx)

that doesnt exist, it was simply a mislabeled mp3 (as far as i understand. it's the original mix. prolly mislabeled cos it sounds a lot like scot p.

anyway, my top 10 based on the sorts of songs suggested already as hard trance:-

1. S.H.O.K.K - Isn't it all a little strange (Krazy Nut Remix)
2. Alex Bartlett - Amnesia (Flutlicht Vs. S.H.O.K.K Remix)
3. Disco Brothers, Darren Styles & Mark Breeze - The Takeoff
4. Marc Dawn - Expander (Flutlicht Remix)
5. M.U.T.E - Missed Beat (DuMonde Remix)
6. The Green Martian - Harmonic Minor
7. Arome - Hands Up (Scot Project Remix)
8. Tiesto - Urbain Train (Cosmic Gate Remix)
9. BK - Revolution (Alphazone Remix)
10.CRW - I Feel Love (DuMonde Remix)

I've probably left out some tracks that I wouldve really wanted in there but ive knocked it up pretty quickly. I've also neglected some "hard dance" tracks i like as well that i would consider hard trance (like guyver etc).

Posted by decode on Feb-13-2003 15:16:

1) SHOKK - Isnt it all a little strange (Krazy nut mix)
2) Marc Dawn - Expander (Flutlicht Remix)
3) The Green Martian - Harmonic Minor
4) Flutlicht - The Fall (Original Mix)
5) The Green Martian - Industry
6) Kai Tracid - Trance & Acid (Derb remix)
7) Yves Deruyter - Y D O T
8) Saccoman - Metamorph (Part Two Mix)
9) Altitude - Altitude (S.H.O.K.K Remix)
10) Chromdioxide II - Hardcore Motherfu
Edit: I would say Transponder - Transponder (Decode mix) but its more fucked up tech trance than hard trance.

Posted by Mick on Feb-13-2003 15:17:

yanni and gollum - shadows and lights
oakenfold vd dj judas - the prophet,

these r mny favs and the hardest i would probz play , along with overdrive (o) of course

ah and then theres >

yakooza - cocaine(derb remx)

Mick

Posted by DJ_Skaya on Feb-13-2003 17:19:

Space Frog - Follow Me

The ultimate hard trance tune.

Posted by DJ_Skaya on Feb-13-2003 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by ambrus07
Mmm you all left out some BADazz hard trance.. used to be my favorite genre, and some of those old tunes still own the planet.. Like:

1. CJ Bolland - The Prophet

If you call the original version of that song hard trance, you're a pussy

Posted by DJ_Skaya on Feb-13-2003 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by D.Edge
CJ Bolland - The Prophet was from '96, and its classier than most tunes out there today...it has the most immense kickdrum for such an old tune

Yeh, I'm not knocing the tune at all, it's great. I just get sick to my stomach when it's refered to as hard trance. If you think that's hard, you should check out the Kaylab Remix PvD played at Mayday 2002. I personally think that mix is much better, but gotta give props to the original for the great melody.

Posted by Ste on Feb-13-2003 17:58:

i didnt post here coz i was fucked if i could pick my ten faves

Posted by Laszlo on Feb-13-2003 17:59:

1. Joy Kitikonti - Joyenergizer (Considered as techno?)
2. Cosmic Gate - The Truth [Original]
3. New Energy - One Turn [Original]
4. Derb - Derb [Original]
5. Marc et Claude - Loving you [DJ Isaac Remix]
6. Beam vs. Cyrus - All over the World [DJ Isaac Remix]
7. Yoji Biomehanika - Theme from Bangin' Globe [DJ Scot Project Remix]
8. Strump Dump - Old Skool Beat [Essential DJ Team Remix]
9. Bassraiders - Prepare to Qualify [Elephant Remix]
10. Mauro Picotto - Iguana [Original]

Posted by Ste on Feb-13-2003 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by decode

Edit: I would say Transponder - Transponder (Decode mix) but its more fucked up tech trance than hard trance.

you can say that again, awesomely fucked up

Posted by Hequn on Feb-13-2003 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by lonne
Kai Tracid-Trance & Acid
Miss Shiva-Dreams ( Cosmic Gate Remix )
Flutlicht-Icarus ( Daedalus Remix )
Marc Dawn-Expander ( Flutlicht Remix )
Cosmic Gate-Exploration of Space
Kai Tracid-Too Many Times
Dj Scot Project-The Future is Now ( Dj Scot`s Hardriff Mix )
Signum-Second Wave
Marc Aurel-The Sun ( Dumonde Remix )
Angelic-Can`t Keep Me Silent ( Dumonde Remix )

I agree with most of them....and thank feck someone put Second Wave on their list (i was gettin worried)

Posted by Zombikiller on Feb-13-2003 20:26:

how can ya forget...

pro-active - the beat goes on (dj wag club mix)
yoji biomehanika - ding a ling (scot project rmx)
dj hinx - el viento

Posted by Hondaswaper on Feb-13-2003 21:44:

what about DJ Snowman- "and then they start to dance"

Posted by bump909 on Feb-13-2003 21:59:

Re: Re: Re: Top Ten

quote:
Originally posted by flystyler

3. Tomecraft - Lonileness

Lets just say i love hard trance

wouldn't "Lonliness" be more like techno cheese?

Posted by DJ_AnGrY on Feb-13-2003 22:17:

A few more logs to the fire...

Merge - Armageddon (bluecode)
Samuel L Jackson (Fergie I think)
Fast - Transmission
Marco V - Echoes

Posted by bilange on Feb-13-2003 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by lonne
Kai Tracid-Trance & Acid **
Miss Shiva-Dreams ( Cosmic Gate Remix )
Flutlicht-Icarus ( Daedalus Remix ) **
Marc Dawn-Expander ( Flutlicht Remix ) ***!
Cosmic Gate-Exploration of Space **
Kai Tracid-Too Many Times **
Dj Scot Project-The Future is Now ( Dj Scot`s Hardriff Mix )
Signum-Second Wave
Marc Aurel-The Sun ( Dumonde Remix )
Angelic-Can`t Keep Me Silent ( Dumonde Remix ) **

Woohoo - I know and love almost half of those tunes (Marked with *`s)

Also, try Tiesto`s remix of Dumonde Never look back (even if its not hard trance O_o)
- Dj Hinx - El Viendo (EDIT: Oops, mentionned 3-4 post earlier! )
- 4 Clubbers - Children (Junkfood Junkies rmx)
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Posted by Rakoon on Feb-14-2003 03:08:

Re: Re: Top Ten

quote:
Originally posted by Rakoon
Awesome tracks. You should also try:

Guyver - You'll Know It
Riot Brothers - Ripped Out

Been alot of Guyver tunes since I posted that.

Riot Brothers - Flashback / Guyver Unit
Guyver - Man On The Moon / Funky Ass Beatz
Guyver - Differences / Trapped

They keep getting better and better

Posted by Acid John on Feb-14-2003 03:20:

well, here's some of my favorite producers...

dj scott project (btw, is it 1 "t" or 2 "t"s in scot/t)
most of Tracid Traxxx
cosmic gate

without these, my life would serve no purpose

Posted by DJ_Skaya on Feb-14-2003 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Hondaswaper
"and then they start to dance"

Maybe that's a completely different song, but I remember in PvD's mayday 2002 set, he Played CJ Bolland - The Prophet (Kaylab Remix), but on the ID the song was mistitled because the words "And then they start to dance" were thrown in to the remix. Maybe it's a bootleg, a vs. tune, or something else, but whatever mix/adaptation of "The Prophet" that PvD played at Mayday 2002 was off the hook

Posted by GoZO on Feb-14-2003 03:39:

Definitly

Solar Factor - Deep Sonar

Posted by JasK on Feb-14-2003 03:44:

ELT - Rescue Me (Dumonde Mix)
Altitude - Altitude (S.H.O.K.K Remix)
Sunblind - Believe (Nu Nrg Extended Mix)
Marc Dawn - Expander (Flutlicht Mix)
Scot Project - O (overdrive)
Dumonde Vs Lange - Memory
Reeloop - Fucking Society (Chromedioxide Ii Remix)
Dumonde - Can U Dig It
Cosmic Gate - The Truth
Signum-Second Wave

not in order, however anything by Dumonde, Signum, Flutlicht, Talla 2XLC, Katana, Cosmic Gate, Marc Aurel, or anything with hard pumping basslines would be cool.

Posted by PCP2017 on Feb-14-2003 03:47:

These are some of my all time "trance" favorites of the harder kind.....

!!! Dual Mount - Power Raiders !!!
!!! Sunbeam - Outside World !!!
O.R.G.A.N. - To The World (Absolom Mix)
Hennes & Cold - The Second Trip (Scot Project Mix)
Thomas Trouble - Echoes (Michael Fusseder Mix)
Gabry Fasano - Jaiss (Bang Mix)
Jan - X-Santo (Headzon Acid Mix)
Tiesto - Urban Train (Cosmic Gate Mix)
Yoda Inc. - Definitely (Scot Project Mix)
Jam X - Keep It That Way (Gert Mix)

Posted by mikefasssy on Feb-14-2003 05:53:

personally I don't think shokk is hard trance, more uplifting to me, even tho the kick and bass are very obvious.

Right now, my top 10 is:

1. Angel Beats Presents GodFathers Dome - Raise Your Hands Up (Club Mix) <--TOON
2. DJ Krid-Kid vs. DJ T-Rob - Cosmic Fusion (Full Vox Cut)
3. Angel One - Into Your Eyes (DJ Dean vs DJ Deelay Remix)
4. Foggy - Your Eyes (Club Mix)
5. Ralph Fridge - Man on Mars (Sven-R-G and Bass-T Remix)
6. DJ Shoko - Extreme
7. Angel Beats - Brightness
8. Cosmic Commando - Slave to the Rave <--Pitch it up +5
9. Nu NRG - Aloa P <--Best Nu NRG track out there today
10. Groove Coverage - God is a Girl (Rocco Remix)

Lots of Euro Hard Trance with foggy and ralph fridge and rocco but I still like those tunes.

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