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Posted by enydo on Oct-01-2014 16:58:

You jest but facebook tells me people are willing to believe that.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-01-2014 17:05:

Yeah, I started my post out rather flippantly, but I feel like it got sadly real toward the end. :/


Posted by Sykonee on Oct-01-2014 17:11:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
You jest but facebook tells me people are willing to believe that.

People on Facebook also believe in Geocentrism, but as this series of videos demonstrates, it's total bollocks.


Posted by Spacey Orange on Oct-01-2014 23:07:

Viruses mutate, and given time this one will as well. So the fact that it isn't spread through the air now, is hardly any comfort.


Posted by AmberLea on Oct-02-2014 04:28:

Dunno

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
Aids came to America because a black guy fucked a monkey.

Now Ebola is in America cause a white guy fucked a black person.

the 1% is going to die off because they fucked one of us paupers. (my prediction)


But the carrier is black? Did he fuck the white guy who fucked the black person who fucked the zombie?


Posted by r5a on Oct-02-2014 06:21:

its gonna get crushed here. dont even worry about it..

the US is WAY better equipped to deal with it than Africa.


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-02-2014 08:26:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If you read into how ebola spreads it's not exactly the new Black Death. A country with a modern medical system and an informed populace is not going to be overrun.


You're spot on, except the "informed populace" part probably won't happen. Maybe I'm wrong, but the US media is going to have a fucking field day with this, and freak out a ton of people.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Oct-02-2014 10:21:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Except I wasn't condescending. It's just crazy especially when one has a family to pretty much drop everything and go somewhere where you might contract an incurable disease that has over a 50% death rate.

I'd also like to see you reconcile your previous statements about "medical advancements" (I'd also like to see a source, since you're so keen on it) with potentially putting all of America in harm's way.


the comment of a person who is a tad green about being 10% as educated, and 100% lonelier than the person he is slating.

*golf clap*

Dinner for one.


Posted by Lagrangian on Oct-02-2014 10:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Jon_Snow
This is how it went down

Black guy "Monkey want banana?"
Monkey "hoo hoo"
@#$%!
AIDS



Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-02-2014 10:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
You're spot on, except the "informed populace" part probably won't happen. Maybe I'm wrong, but the US media is going to have a fucking field day with this, and freak out a ton of people.


I mean a populace that has been given accurate information about preventative measures, which a country like the US can disseminate quickly and efficiently. For example, I read that the semen of a recovered Ebola patient remains infectious for something like 2-3 months, which I imagine is a huge factor in how the disease continues to spread. If someone recovers in the US they're guaranteed to be told in no uncertain terms not to have any sex for at least [x] weeks, whereas I expect that information isn't being passed on in a lot of these African countries.

I think it's a good yardstick that any issue that is riling up both Spacey Orange and Alphastarred simultaneously is probably a pile of fuzzy-minded bullshit.


Posted by Lagrangian on Oct-02-2014 11:17:

Honolulu patient reporting similar symptoms.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Oct-02-2014 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think it's a good yardstick that any issue that is riling up both Spacey Orange and Alphastarred simultaneously is probably a pile of fuzzy-minded bullshit.


Yes, I'm exceedingly riled up, especially after I said I'm quite convinced there won't be an outbreak. I'm not in the least bit worried about what's going on, rest assured.

However. You obviously don't know the American people, as this will indeed cause a panic, and in fact already has, apparently:

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-sty...ticle-1.1959147

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
the comment of a person who is a tad green about being 10% as educated, and 100% lonelier than the person he is slating.

*golf clap*

Dinner for one.


The comment of a person who has a wife and a newborn baby, yet continues to troll TA unabashedly.

Do you troll TA while holding him in your lap, as well? I'm sure you do it after sex, at least, no?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-02-2014 13:51:

"Riled up" doesn't mean "worried" and I didn't mention anything about the American public being either panicked or panic-free, but by all means continue to respond to my mockery of you with semantic quibbling.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Oct-02-2014 14:01:

Riled up means angry/irriated, I know. Thanks for the useless clarification.

What exactly are you mocking? I just showed you that not all of America consists of an "informed populace," hence the panic. Hence, "you obviously don't know the American people." But by all means continue talking about the incubated semen, it's an interesting subject.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Oct-02-2014 14:03:

I bet it was Ramen tonight.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-02-2014 14:04:

An irrelevant demonstration, given I'd already clarified what I meant by "informed" before you replied:

quote:
I mean a populace that has been given accurate information about preventative measures, which a country like the US can disseminate quickly and efficiently.


You just type any old shit you can think of in retaliation and then post-rationalise it later.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Oct-02-2014 14:17:

I don't need to retaliate or post-rationalize, as I've already fucking mentinoned that there is, and will be, a bunch of panic-stricken Americans, despite your "accurate information about preventative measures." This will be quite evident in the upcoming weeks, I'm sure, but I'm sure by then you've already prepared a premeditated reply, to try and justify your previous posts.


Posted by OrangestO on Oct-02-2014 14:20:

As much as CNN would love it, no one is fucking panicking.

It's water cooler talk at this point.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-02-2014 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
I don't need to retaliate or post-rationalize, as I've already fucking mentinoned that there is, and will be, a bunch of panic-stricken Americans, despite your "accurate information about preventative measures."


I never mentioned anything about panic or the prevention of panic. The comment about informing the public was related to preventing the spread of infection. Maybe you should read back through the thread and remind yourself of what you're arguing about.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-02-2014 14:47:

Lots of Florida kids around here have probably been through at least one major hurricane. I was in Naples when Wilma made Landfall as a 5. The stores were pretty gutted, people were gouging fresh water in the streets and we lost power for a month; but it just wasn't that bad. Obviously an actual pandemic would be a different scenario, especially one with such a protracted incubation, like Ebola- but the relative panic would be well-rooted in isolation from one another, which Americans in particular are actually rather apt at, if you ask me.

When we speak of panic and a misinformed population in North America, though, it just doesn't quite compare to these West African nations. In Guinea last month, for example:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014...N0HD2JE20140918

There's a gaping cultural disconnect when it comes to herd welfare in these countries. Compounded I suppose by the fact that Guinea happens to be 80%+ Muslim, and the West has a problematic track record with healthcare and Muslim communities, the seeds of distrust have probably inflated the spread and the death rate far beyond what any western nation would experience.


Posted by enydo on Oct-02-2014 14:50:

I can't wait to catch ebola.


Posted by Chimney on Oct-02-2014 15:56:

Ebola isn't as easy to contract as one might think. Here's an interview worth reading with one of the scientists that first came into contact with it:

http://www.spiegel.de/international...s-a-993111.html


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-02-2014 16:27:

That's quite a chilling interview in its implications for the less developed parts of the world. It's been my hypothesis for a while (I've probably repeated it on TA) that the human population explosion will be forcefully halted in the next century by some epidemic or plague that wipes out large parts of the third world. In any natural ecosystem, when the population of one species grows unsustainably it is always culled by natural forces, restoring equilibrium. We often assume we're above nature but I still think the same process will happen on a global scale to the human population. I was even mulling over a sci-fi premise of how human society might develop in the aftermath of such an event.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-02-2014 17:02:

I think you'd find this of interest:

http://io9.com/epidemics-are-not-natural-1640329353


Posted by OrangestO on Oct-02-2014 17:20:

Thanks to both of you for sharing those insightful posts.

How can someone not know overpopulation relates to what the environment can carry and not density?

How dense.


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