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Posted by Sean Walsh on Oct-17-2002 20:44:

Well put, not much to add.


For me, cheesy trance consists of huge formulaic riffs that are very predictable, and well, just lame sounding. Armin and Ferry do a log of huge riffs, that can sometimes be quite predictable, but not necessarily cheesey. Well, it's hard to qualify, I agree, pretty much anything new these days from Svenson & Gielen I'd consider to be cheese.


Posted by sharpeye00 on Oct-17-2002 22:48:

europop. nuff said.


Posted by grafal on Oct-18-2002 00:04:

Songs that people call trance which is not. Cheesy ass euro dance with asstastiv vocals..thats what pisses me off. Cheese that is labelled tracen, but truthfully it should be called Cheese. There should be a Cheese genre section in record stores.


Posted by Psygnosis on Oct-18-2002 00:54:

I can't believe people don't like cheese trance, i mean come on, they are bloody uplifting, who cares about the vocals some are really nice.

and i cant believe you call Dj sammy - Heaven cheese when Armin Van Buuren Remix of IIO - Rapture is purely the same.


Posted by Flec on Oct-18-2002 02:14:

when you start calling tracks cheese, you have truly forgoten why you like music


Posted by mndeg on Oct-18-2002 03:44:

The mix of the janet jackson son, anyone know the name? its extremly predictable even I could make something better then that, I think the produers just gave up and used a easy tune


Posted by Verona^My on Oct-18-2002 07:26:

Re: Whats cheesy trance for you ?

quote:
Originally posted by NightShade1
I got a lil confusion about it can someone explain me better..
ummm
i think its a trance that in the whole music its the same shit...
it doesnt change and its the same shit the whole track....
like ummmmmmmm some of djs sammys trakcs??
well i dont know someone explain me better pls?



anything by Lightforce, Kai Tracid... most of what people call hard trance I would call cheesy. A lot of Ferry Corsten type riffage trance is pretty cheesy...


Posted by Verona^My on Oct-18-2002 07:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Teknikol
Cheese is:

artists like kate ryan, barthezz, etc. Many people think these artists make trance, but these artists only see $$$$$.

Armin and Ferry defenitly make no cheese, just melodic trance


*cough* out of the blue *cough*

some ferry corsten is ok, but he has some of the cheesiest crap to cheese a crap... that song with Marc Almond is atrocious


Posted by Verona^My on Oct-18-2002 07:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Project T
* Project T tapes up his asshole

Punk ain't cheese


LOL, you obviously have no taste in synthwork
That's some pretty corny synthwork he's got in that tune... Just because it aint played on the radio 24/7 doesn't mean it aint cheese.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Oct-18-2002 10:15:

Re: Re: Whats cheesy trance for you ?

quote:
Originally posted by Verona^My
, Kai Tracid... most of what people call hard trance I would call cheesy.



ok , i agree, life is too short, is a little cheesey, but can you name any other kai tracid tunes that are 'cheese trance'?. Kai's 'softer' tunes, i wouldnt class as cheese trance, but as light, uplifting very pleasantly melodic trance. And as for his sets... well i think youd better go download one, try rosemontagsrave 2002


Posted by burns on Oct-18-2002 10:24:

How can some one call hard trance (PvD, Armin) Uplifting Melodic Progreesive Trance ?

I supose it goes down to what you think the words mean but imo Armin or PvD do not play Uplifting Melodic Progreesive Trance.

Not having a go or flaming any-body in this thread.

My post here is pointless really now that i look at it but i will post it anyways, It really just a matter of opinion. Respect every-one.


Posted by m0sh on Oct-18-2002 10:28:

ARGGHHHHHHHH I hate this childish fight

This is cheese and this ain't


STOP IT!!

STop bashing all over everyone that this one is cheese

PPLZ like me don't give a fuck !!!

If the song good then fuck all !

Sorry for the lang...

I like pulsedriver
I admit it...
laava - wherever you are [pulsedriver remix]
is an awesome song...so you can say its cheese but I don't give a fuck


ALL GOOD AS LONG AS YOU LIKE TRANCE!


Posted by E-Trancer on Oct-18-2002 10:43:

Svenson & Gielen, Corsten and sometimes Armin.


Posted by Cyberwoo on Oct-18-2002 12:15:

IMO if you have to be told what is "cheesy" then its not even worth explaining. This has been my 2 cents.


Posted by LynxEffect on Oct-18-2002 13:31:

those who like progressive deep tunes think mainstream trance like armin, ferry etc sounds cheesey, those who like mainstrema think eurotrance/pop/dance whatever is cheese.

those who like eurodance know its cheesey and couldnt give a rats arse about dance snob elitests and some like it all


cheese is predictable? then everyone on this board is utter cheese


Posted by starglider on Oct-18-2002 13:44:

quote:
Originally posted by LynxEffect
those who like progressive deep tunes think mainstream trance like armin, ferry etc sounds cheesey, those who like mainstrema think eurotrance/pop/dance whatever is cheese.

those who like eurodance know its cheesey and couldnt give a rats arse about dance snob elitests and some like it all


cheese is predictable? then everyone on this board is utter cheese


You're just about right. Everyone seems to call any music more commercially successful than what they listen to, cheese. Fans of melodic trance think of Alice Deejay, etc. Prog heads envision Armin and Ferry's particular brand of trance as being cheese. Then again, most likely techno fans consider progressive trance and house to be cheese. And the people who listen to underground minimalist techno made in some guy's basement think the "mainstream" techno is cheesy. And so forth.


Posted by chris_norris on Oct-18-2002 14:35:

At the end of the day, I think it's different for every person. I mean, obviously were all gonna think the music we like personally is best aren't we, therefore were gonna think other genres that other people listen too are chessy. What one person mite consider a large pile of steaming cheddar, another person mite regard as a total classic. Apart from Scooter, they ARE cheese he he.


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