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Originally posted by DJ RANN What a sad state clubbing has got to. Sure, I know you dress like a 30k millionaire going for a Bros night out in San Diego, but still, I remember the days when trainers (sneakers) and collarless shirt was a guaranteed denial in any club worth it's salt.

That's still true in most places that aren't Berlin.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J That's still true in most places that aren't Berlin.

Really? I thought i was just Vegas these days?

I'm off to see John O'Callaghan/Bryan Kearney tonight. Chris Liebing tomorrow.

I stayed home all weekend last week so now I'm itching to do something.

ya a friend told me there was no way i was getting in Berghain. I was all cocky about it like pfft and ramped up what i was planning to wear. Wore a $300 ted baker shirt, my best stylish pants and a pair of John Varvatos. I thought I was looking fresh, I came out of my apartment and the hookers swarmed. handed out 20 Euros like it was candy telling them to fix themselves up a little and jumped into a cab (Truthfully they didn't even look all that beat up). I jumped into a mercedes taxi and headed off to Berghain for a crazy night of partying and banging German whores I've seen on pornhub. I didn't even make it to the line before the bouncer told me to leave. I was crushed.

actually what I thought was crazy about Berlin was that some chick approached me while at watergate and handed me a napkin. I was honestly expecting to see a number and a name. Instead she had written down her address and told me to come by after I was done here. I never went because honestly I would have been banging down, I only bang up and trick girls they are actually banging up when they are actually banging down but I thought it was pretty nuts.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Really? I thought i was just Vegas these days?

Oh wait, I got your post totally the wrong way around. I always go out in a T-shirt and jeans and the only place I've ever been refused entry in such attire was Berghain.

I don't see how it's a "sad state" that clubs don't have dress codes anymore.

In all honesty its probably because black people dress up now

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy ya a friend told me there was no way i was getting in Berghain. I was all cocky about it like pfft and ramped up what i was planning to wear. Wore a $300 ted baker shirt, my best stylish pants and a pair of John Varvatos. I thought I was looking fresh, I came out of my apartment and the hookers swarmed. handed out 20 Euros like it was candy telling them to fix themselves up a little and jumped into a cab (Truthfully they didn't even look all that beat up). I jumped into a mercedes taxi and headed off to Berghain for a crazy night of partying and banging German whores I've seen on pornhub. I didn't even make it to the line before the bouncer told me to leave. I was crushed.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy In all honesty its probably because black people dress up now

HAHAH

Checking out DJ Three tonight in Tampa and then Maceo Plex at Space tomorrow in Miami.


Haha.

Yea, some guy behind me at Watergate was pissed he wasn't allowed in because he was "dressed to impress." When he received his rejection, he offered 100 euros to let him in. Bouncer shook his head and told him to get out of the way. Ah, and that was the moment I fell in love with Berlin.

Lol @ eric besieged by mobs of desperate whores. His only shield is a roll of euros and the back of his hand.

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Originally posted by Swamper I'm off to see John O'Callaghan/Bryan Kearney tonight. Chris Liebing tomorrow. I stayed home all weekend last week so now I'm itching to do something.

got sick for a few weeks. checking out liebing tomorrow myself. then a short break before MJC/ len faki double header

at the moment hanging close to home, drinking beers and about to grill some salmon� in a snow fort I created after the 100+ inches of snow we've had.

Going to see Miguel Campbell tonight. Should be a good show.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Oh wait, I got your post totally the wrong way around. I always go out in a T-shirt and jeans and the only place I've ever been refused entry in such attire was Berghain. I don't see how it's a "sad state" that clubs don't have dress codes anymore.

Well it seems they refuse if you dress too casual and the refuse if you dress like Eric.

I think if you're at a local crappy club, then sure, t-shirt and trainers is fine, what's the point wearing more but it's sorry state when you go to a really nice club and everyone is dressed like they are going down to the shops for a loaf of bread. No effort or style.

I suppose Barghain are doing the studio54 thing. It's not about what you wear - it's about whether you're fabulous. Ask Looney4clooney/mad4brad/crazy4swayze/bustin4justin. He knows all about fabulous.

What's the point of getting dressed up when you'll end up a goggle-eyed sweaty mess by the end of the night? Dress comfortably and functionally, and fuck "really nice" clubs.

As for Berghain, they seem to favour the signposted Kreuzberg alternative look. Top-knot, scruffy facial hair and an insouciant roll-up? Apply within.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Barcelona is a beautiful city, and I'm always happy to visit. We are even talking about moving there, if I could get a job at one of the big American or British companies that have offices there. I've been before for Sonar festival and saw all the sights and tourist stuff that time. This trip was for my girlfriend's birthday, because her best friend lives out there, so we spent most of the weekend eating delicious food and drinking good wine for ridiculously low prices.

I really need to get over there one of these days. I'm not too keen about the sun, but delicious food and good wine at cheap prices is something I can always get behind.

I think I saw an article in the Telegraph or something a few months ago about someone in the City living in Barcelona and commuting into London four days a week, because it was a better deal for him financially lol

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I think if you're at a local crappy club, then sure, t-shirt and trainers is fine, what's the point wearing more but it's sorry state when you go to a really nice club and everyone is dressed like they are going down to the shops for a loaf of bread. No effort or style.

I actually dress nicer to go to the shop for bread than I do to go clubbing. Dressing well often tends to involve layers, which will be quite uncomfortable when you are drenched in sweat at four in the morning and still have another hour to go.

And most of the really nice clubs I've been to had shit music, overpriced drinks, and were filled with annoyingly vapid idiots. If you really care about being surrounded by people dressed well (which most of the time means dressed expensively, since most people even in nice clubs really are fashionable, not stylish), that's great, but that's not why I go out for a night.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J What's the point of getting dressed up when you'll end up a goggle-eyed sweaty mess by the end of the night? Dress comfortably and functionally, and fuck "really nice" clubs.

I still look fabulous after a heavy night out

I don't see why you can't do both. A quality shirt, a pair of nice jeans and some decent shoes are no less comfortable or functional.

Sure, if your idea of going out is vaguely splashing whatever moonshine you can grip in your bungling banana like hands while your e-puddle erupts in to a chunky fountain from your throat all over you and any fellow gollum like organisms nearby, then fine; maybe you really shouldn't own anything nice at all.

But some of us like to go to nice places, hear fucking great music and when you look around at the other punters, not have a view akin to that of walking in to a homeless shelter mid-riot.

I'll never understand why this conversation has to be so polarized. It's not a binary choice of head to toe Dior Homme, or dress like you raid the reject bins at goodwill (oxfam).

It used to be that ANY club you went to had at least some sort of dress code. No sportswear would suffice.

I think Mixmag said it best once: I don't wear a Versace Suit to your gym, so please don't wear your rockports to my club.

I just think it's shit to be in a nice club, having a good time, quite a few people are making an effort to doll themselves up, then seeing most people really just threw on what ever was clean.

What was the last event you went to RANN? Who was playing and where was it?

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Originally posted by Lews I actually dress nicer to go to the shop for bread than I do to go clubbing. Dressing well often tends to involve layers, which will be quite uncomfortable when you are drenched in sweat at four in the morning and still have another hour to go.

I think that's slightly your own problem in terms of what you think dressing well involves. I actually don't care what they wearing but at least try. The layers thing doesn't make any sense to me at all. Sorry.

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Originally posted by Lews And most of the really nice clubs I've been to had shit music, overpriced drinks, and were filled with annoyingly vapid idiots. If you really care about being surrounded by people dressed well (which most of the time means dressed expensively, since most people even in nice clubs really are fashionable, not stylish), that's great, but that's not why I go out for a night.

I don't think you're going to the right clubs then. Sure, I love some nights where it's a blackened concrete basement, a single strobe and dark music all night long.

But then clubs are also really meant to be have a night out, not a night down-and-out. There's a reason clubs spend money on decor and hire good looking people to work there. It's part of the attraction. Look good, feel good, plur.

Drinks are overpriced in any club. Whether you pay 5 quid or 10 quid for a drink. Ibiza is the most ridiculously overpriced place on plant earth but it hasn't stopped 10 of millions of punters going, or getting lathered, because you know this going in. When I go out, as long as it's not that pathetic bottle service bullshit, then I don't care whether I've spent $100 or $400 on drinks. It's a night out. If you don't have the budget, then fine, don't go to nice clubs. It's goes with the territory. They have to pay the bill somehow, and I don't mind paying. It's why some people like owning and paying for nice things.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J What was the last event you went to RANN? Who was playing and where was it?

Sound Hollywood. Two weeks ago. Kerri Chandler, Marcus Wyatt, Doc Martin. Before that was December in Paris at Hotel Costes. More of a loungey thing but still dancing etc.

Why?

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I think that's slightly your own problem in terms of what you think dressing well involves. I actually don't care what they wearing but at least try. The layers thing doesn't make any sense to me at all. Sorry.

Yeah, if you think that dressing well can somehow involve jeans, then we definitely have different ideas of what dressing well entails. Which is amusing, since you seem to have higher standards of what other people should be wearing. As long as people are wearing clean clothing, I really don't give a shit what the people in a club with me are clothed in. I'm there for the music, and to be with friends if I go with friends, not to aesthetically judge the other clubbers.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN But then clubs are also really meant to be have a night out, not a night down-and-out. There's a reason clubs spend money on decor and hire good looking people to work there. It's part of the attraction. Look good, feel good, plur. Drinks are overpriced in any club. Whether you pay 5 quid or 10 quid for a drink. Ibiza is the most ridiculously overpriced place on plant earth but it hasn't stopped 10 of millions of punters going, or getting lathered, because you know this going in. When I go out, as long as it's not that pathetic bottle service bullshit, then I don't care whether I've spent $100 or $400 on drinks. It's a night out. If you don't have the budget, then fine, don't go to nice clubs. It's goes with the territory. They have to pay the bill somehow, and I don't mind paying. It's why some people like owning and paying for nice things.

Indeed.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Why?

I'm just wondering where exactly your petit bourgeois materialistic smugness would tie in with reality.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J As for Berghain, they seem to favour the signposted Kreuzberg alternative look. Top-knot, scruffy facial hair and an insouciant roll-up? Apply within.

I honestly think as long as you don't massively overdress (worse chance) or turn up in gay/fetish wear (better chance) it doesn't matters would you wear or what your facial hair is like at the Berghain door.

There is a fairly ridiculous trend of people inside wearing these oversized, black, 'goth' outfits inside (there are constantly groups of 10-15 twentysomethings sitting in the lobby area and they will all look exactly the same) but i'm not sure if wearing the uniform actually will give you a better chance at the door. Altough now that I think of it, people do dress up for Berghain, it's just ridiculous outfits inspired by gay/fetish/punk/alternative fashion culture instead of the classic menswear dress up. I always get a kick out of the outfits that gay people come up with, I think my favorite was two guys wearing soviet-era spacesuits made out of tinfoil.

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