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-- DIGWEED KOOLHAUS NOV29th
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I think you guys should go see the one that you want and don't argue about it here. Personally, I have seen Diggers three times now and to tell you the truth, I will not see him again unless he is with Sasha or doing some tour with some other DJ that I want to see. He is a great DJ but my time in Ottawa was spent with total Diggerhead and I just can't listen to that anymore.
^ Of course it comes down to opinion.
You see this guy was just stating his opinion...
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| how anyone considers that god awful horse shit trance any form of respectable music is beyond me.. |
all i gotta say is u want dirty u will get dirty cauz digweed is gonna fuck u up from head to toe his dark filthy dirty beats that will make u wanna get tha fuck out of the country and live in a desert island by ur self cauz really really for dirty house fans diggers is gonna deliver ....
just cause Digweed spins at a 130BPM and Talla pumps it to 140BPM doesn't make his music any more "intense". By that logic, D'n'B and Happy Hardcore would be the most intense genre's wouldn't they? Cuz they're even higher than 140BPM. So BPM doesn't have an effect on "energy". The elements of the song itself do though...and progressive can be made very simply, but have so much energy, depending on how the dj places the song into his set. And in trance, the synth-work and the 4/4 umc umc umc beat are what give its intensity.
For me, trance and prog switched sides almost completely. I can groove and lose myself to prog, but chillout and let my mind relax to trance. I need some dirty dangerous rhythm nowadays...
...John 00 Flemming, AvB and PvD will still make me go crazy tho 
^ very well said about the bpm's. Funny because Happy Hardcore is by far the least intense music out there.
Digweed you are so dirty you put Christina to shame! 
after hearing Digweed drop such a sick set at Area 2, how can i no go see him!
I thought many of you would learn by now, especially after what happened at Sasha 2 weeks ago.
Digweed does not spin trance, period.
All I have to say is to take a look at the UK. It's dead (i have been told this by people who are in the industry over there). Why??
Well it's called the UK disease. DJ's have reached 'rock-star' status in the UK. They walk around with this huge chip on their shoulders like they're gods gift to music (i'm not naming any names). Because of this, they think that they can play anything and still call it art or music. And people, or should i say sheep, say "Uh, it must be good because ______ is playing it.." So they all hop on the band-wagon.
Well this wasn't a problem while it was big. But now it's a huge problem in the UK; because the cohort that recognizes the huge names have all reached an age where they no longer club as frequently as they did once before. The new clubbing cohort that is slowly trickling into the market is not blind-sided by the "big name" phenomenon and notice immediately that the music they play is shit.
Gatecrasher: DEAD
Cream: DEAD
And the new generation of kids listen to alternative, not electronica. They go to bars and pubs instead of super clubs.
Now take a look at Holland. Can they get any bigger? They have never been effected by the UK disease. They go out and listen to good music, and not necessarily the big names. They have the best parties, and have the best scene anywhere. Why?? Because their artists actually have passion about the music they produce and play. They are stand up DJ's that don't carry chips on their shoulders and actually give a shit about their fans. They cater to the crowd on not to themselves when they play, and that makes the difference.
I hope i made some sense with this.
i hope ur not refering to sasha when u say that : I thought many of you would learn by now, especially after what happened at Sasha 2 weeks ago.
cauz sasha came to montreal and delivered a six hour set of the best beats around also 50% is white label so well see the reaction of the rest that didnt get to this gig in a few month
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| Originally posted by itikia I thought many of you would learn by now, especially after what happened at Sasha 2 weeks ago. |
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| Originally posted by itikia Gatecrasher: DEAD Cream: DEAD |
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| Originally posted by itikia Gatecrasher: DEAD Cream: DEAD |
Go to TALLA 2xlc
Wholly faak i would have to say go and see talla he is wicked to watch....but i don't like diggers style that much so....talla TE set was pretty danm good.
Info?
Hey... can anyone tell me if this is really going on for sure? I know that Talla is goin for sure, but I checked out Digweed's site and he doesn't have Kool Haus listed for Nov. 29...
thnx
infinity_HIGH & halo20 made some valuable and reasonable points a lot of you tranceaddicts generalize other electronic musik out. for you guys its all about trance and you think its #1 
im completely opposite on trance now coz it doesn't give me the rush as it used to. i really feel that the old skool trance was much more sophisticated then the trance nowadays. i luv Digweed not for his popluarity but coz he's a really talented guy. he produces, he remixes and tours around the planet, he doesn't give himself a break. can you say that he's a hard-worker in a perspective?
halo20, your a crazy f*cker, you proved your point man 
its not like itikia will bother to care anywyas...
and plz dont compare Talla with Digweed, both guys are 2 different styles need i more to say????
May I interject?
I just wanna butt in here & say that even tho halo20 comes on here & stirs the pot (a lot), he really is a super good guy. 
And yes, it is confirmed- flyers are up at the Guv already. Sometimes the DJ's websites aren't up to date.
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| Originally posted by bluE_Neon halo20, your a crazy f*cker, you proved your point man its not like itikia will bother to care anywyas... |
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| Originally posted by halo20 Just call me Judge Jury and Executioner. Itikia, no hard feelings and don't take it personal. We have a lot of partying to do together this weekend. |
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| Originally posted by itikia I thought many of you would learn by now, especially after what happened at Sasha 2 weeks ago. Digweed does not spin trance, period. All I have to say is to take a look at the UK. It's dead (i have been told this by people who are in the industry over there). Why?? Well it's called the UK disease. DJ's have reached 'rock-star' status in the UK. They walk around with this huge chip on their shoulders like they're gods gift to music (i'm not naming any names). Because of this, they think that they can play anything and still call it art or music. And people, or should i say sheep, say "Uh, it must be good because ______ is playing it.." So they all hop on the band-wagon. Well this wasn't a problem while it was big. But now it's a huge problem in the UK; because the cohort that recognizes the huge names have all reached an age where they no longer club as frequently as they did once before. The new clubbing cohort that is slowly trickling into the market is not blind-sided by the "big name" phenomenon and notice immediately that the music they play is shit. Gatecrasher: DEAD Cream: DEAD |
progressive is not the new trend.... hardstyle is ( at least in holland) in UK i guess they lisen to prog... but its fading away already
as far as im concerned prog is not even trance..... not even close
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| Originally posted by itikia WRT Sasha & Diggers: they are both progressive djs; and the last i heard, when S&D played Kool Haus a couple of months back I was told by many, many people Sasha tore the place apart. Diggers simply mellowed it out. Therefore, if you follow my logic I would expect Diggers to be a bigger bore than Sasha, considering Sasha did not perform as well as expected; end point. |
i dont believe wat people say unless i experience it myself, coz how can you have conclusions when you haven't seen the DJ? i was there and many other TA's, and Sasha was way too mellow and boring. how can you say that Digweed is mellow? those he spin melodic tunes? everytime Digweed was on the decks everyone came alive coz he dropped the beats, were Sasha was playing mellow tunes as James Holden style. of course people who luv Sasha are gonna say he tore the place, and those who luv Digweed will do the same. but im speaking for everyone, and damn me if ill be wrong to say that Digweed was much more deeper, darker, chunkier beats & mixing was un-ordinary, therefore i think he was a lot better. unless, no fence to anyone, you rather hear mellow, melodic sounds while your fucked on E or something 
The only country where prog. is popular is UK. It's dying everywhere else.
About a year ago if you came to Guv. all you could hear was Progressive. Go there now - about 50% of stuff that Mark plays is trance or at least progressive trance. About a year ago, Breathe at System was only getting progressive DJs.. Look what they do now: book John Fleming twice, Mauro Picotto, Mistress Barbara. And resident DJ nights at Breathe are not nearly as popular as they used to be.
Top 100 DJs list will be released tomorrow.. We'll see how well prog. did this year !
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| Originally posted by Durafei Tomorrow top 100 DJs list will be release.. We'll see how well prog. did this year ! |
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| Originally posted by Flec progressive is not the new trend.... hardstyle is ( at least in holland) in UK i guess they lisen to prog... but its fading away already as far as im concerned prog is not even trance..... not even close |
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| Originally posted by Durafei The only country where prog. is popular is UK. It's dying everywhere else. About a year ago if you came to Guv. all you could hear was Progressive. Go there now - about 50% of stuff that Mark plays is trance or at least progressive trance. About a year ago, Breathe at System was only getting progressive DJs.. Look what they do now: book John Fleming twice, Mauro Picotto, Mistress Barbara. And resident DJ nights at Breathe are not nearly as popular as they used to be. Top 100 DJs list will be released tomorrow.. We'll see how well prog. did this year ! |
Mark Oliver will always continue to play progressive. you can't really estimate those facts coz they are incorrect. you only listed a very small percent of events all of the whole year so far 
all other times Guv, System, Red Square, Tonic and watever clubs their are in toronto have brought house & progressive dj's. the past couple of months there has been some many house dj's that include, Satoshi Tomiie twice, Deep Dish twice, Steve Lawler, Lee Burridge, John Digweed, Tom Stephan, Eric Morillo, John Acquiva, Junior Sanchez, Danny Howells, Hybrid (progressive), Anthony Pappa, Saeed & Palash, Dave Seaman, Roger Sanchez and many other's that i can name the house & progressive scene is huge and always will be. the scene in UK is big, i dont understand how people say its small coz on every event that UK's have has a special tent always for house & progressive e.g GSSS, Creamfields (wasn't that the best tent of all, DJ MG give evidence ), GKGL...and who cares about top 100 dj's???
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| Originally posted by mecha wtf is the hardstyle is? hard house and trance?????????? and btw you should attempt more progressive parties once you turn legal age and you will see that progressive was generated from Trance. |
progressive trance was generated from trance, but progressive the gender itself is a sub-gender from house musik, like i said many times, house-musik has about 50 or more nowadays sub-genders...
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