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Posted by torontotrance on Nov-05-2002 00:36:

It's in there.....i assure you

I love it when deejays slam each other.....


Posted by Helta on Nov-05-2002 00:37:

BT may not be the best behind the decks, but just see him live behind a few keyboards and synths, he's the 21st centuries answer to the One Man Band.

I've had the pleaseure of speaking to BT personally (although not often), and I can honestly say he's the most kickass guy. He's funny, down to earth, and would never say anything quite like this unless it was explicitly justified...

He's not the sort of person to shit on people without reason...


Posted by torontotrance on Nov-05-2002 00:43:

BT has more funny quotes

BT ON ATB

Brian Transeau (BT) on Music
Totally. I love what guys like Oliver Lieb and Paul Van Dyk do. I hate that ATB and those sorts of people have prostituted this stuff. You listen to an ATB track and then you listen to Sasha, and the difference is as obvious as listening to Led Zeppelin and Rachmaninoff.


Posted by Tranz on Nov-05-2002 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by JayD
Most people would say BT definitly is a better producer than Oakenfold. You cant expect less since he went to music tech school for a couple of years and so on.

I saw BT before playing a set and all in all everyone was sitting. No-1 was up dancing, maybe a 12 % of the people there im saying.

Also most people will say Oakenfold is a better dj all around.

JaY


BT sees himself as a producer and a performer, not really a DJ. I don't see anyway to compare BT to Oakenfold. It's like comparing apples to oranges.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Nov-05-2002 01:13:

k, so what if BT can't compare to Oakeys mixes...did u guys read the whole thing? Heh, BT couldn't compare to me if I was dj'ing from a cd and just stood there. And he even mentions the guys responsible for signing DJ's onto Global Underground to call and ask them if its true...hmmm, I wonder why Oakey hasn't done a GU since ummm...007?


Posted by biznology on Nov-05-2002 03:09:

umm ok...good to see illogical tempers flaring in here.

1)BT isnt a dj, and never pretended to be. he can mix, but usually doesnt.

2)BT owes *something* to Oakie, as they were nearly joined at the hip for awhile there. BT is the more talented musician, and oakie is the business man.

3)not sure how Ste got Tiesto in on this, but the BT/Tiesto/Oakie thing is like some freaky love triangle that freaks me out and prolly explains a lot of this mess. BT slamming Oakie, Oakie slamming Tiestos remix of SS. Tiesto remaining indifferent and just attempting to sound like Oakie from 2 yrs ago...?

other facts:
-BT *MAKES* music, whereas Oakie commissions others to make his music, its a talent vs. power thing.
-Oakie worked with fucking Crazy Town on possibly the most embarassing (trance) song ever.(who gives a shit about nsuck and miss spears)

my opinion:
-alt Oakies EMs are pretty good, all he did was choose good songs that people sent to him before anyone else. i think all us TAs could do the same with that power/simplistic mixing skill. 98% of BTs *production work* has surpassed all that Oakie spit out in that 2-3yr time span. and his shows are better assuming its a live PA.


Posted by zarathustra on Nov-05-2002 06:02:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
umm ok...good to see illogical tempers flaring in here.

1)BT isnt a dj, and never pretended to be. he can mix, but usually doesnt.

2)BT owes *something* to Oakie, as they were nearly joined at the hip for awhile there. BT is the more talented musician, and oakie is the business man.

3)not sure how Ste got Tiesto in on this, but the BT/Tiesto/Oakie thing is like some freaky love triangle that freaks me out and prolly explains a lot of this mess. BT slamming Oakie, Oakie slamming Tiestos remix of SS. Tiesto remaining indifferent and just attempting to sound like Oakie from 2 yrs ago...?

other facts:
-BT *MAKES* music, whereas Oakie commissions others to make his music, its a talent vs. power thing.
-Oakie worked with fucking Crazy Town on possibly the most embarassing (trance) song ever.(who gives a shit about nsuck and miss spears)

my opinion:
-alt Oakies EMs are pretty good, all he did was choose good songs that people sent to him before anyone else. i think all us TAs could do the same with that power/simplistic mixing skill. 98% of BTs *production work* has surpassed all that Oakie spit out in that 2-3yr time span. and his shows are better assuming its a live PA.


This sums it up quite nicely.

BT never said he was a better DJ than Oakie, he simply said the Oakie takes credit for other people's work. Whether that is true or not I don't know for sure, but I've heard some bad rumors about Oakie.


Posted by B-Good on Nov-05-2002 06:33:

BT is fucking awsome !

As everyone has already said, hes a wicked producer with mass talent. I mean have you seen the man on his key boards. Oh my its amazing. Ive never seen anything like him playing live. And that is better than any person spinning a record ( or CD for that matter ).

I think that BT always wanted to work with Britany Spears cause Okie is the Britany Spears of the dance world. Okie has some talent at what he does ( which is not make music ) just like Britany. He is also the fucking trance pop star. Okie has one thing in his eyes $$ and hes doing a better job at that than he is at music.
Guess BT has just moved on up to the real thing now and has seen what fake Okie is. At least Spears doesnt pretend to be real (aside from her chest and chastity) like some other people.

As far as BT's mixing goes. It may not be the best but his track selection is what he wants to play. Don't you go to see a dj cause you want to hear what they like to play. Not cause they play whats popular. You know what its called when that happens POP MUSIC !
Anyone who thinks that Okie didnt deserve what BT said can crash and burn next time they are driving down the road listening to Casey Casum's top 40 on their radio.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Nov-05-2002 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by JayD
Most people would say BT definitly is a better producer than Oakenfold. You cant expect less since he went to music tech school for a couple of years and so on.

I saw BT before playing a set and all in all everyone was sitting. No-1 was up dancing, maybe a 12 % of the people there im saying.

Also most people will say Oakenfold is a better dj all around.

JaY


umm...jayd...i love you and all, but you forgot to include the context of when and where that happened. IN A CROWDED ASS AMPHITHEATRE IN HOT ASS MIAMI! right after acosta, oakenfold, cox, crystal method, (assuming you stayed in the main area), RIGHT BEFORE tiesto and PAUL VAN DYK!! OF COURSE I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN DURING MOTHERFUCKING BT!

bt is a better producer.
oakenfold is a better performer. (take that how you will, his djing skills or just his presence)

i personally think its just oakenfold's presence. HE USED TO BE AMAZING! he really knew how to fucking mix, but now, he can't keep up with pvd and the other gods.

my two cents atleast.


Posted by nekholm on Nov-05-2002 07:06:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
You listen to an ATB track and then you listen to Sasha, and the difference is as obvious as listening to Led Zeppelin and Rachmaninoff.


WTF is Rachmaninoff?


Posted by tranceman78 on Nov-05-2002 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Nicke
WTF is Rachmaninoff?


Read some music history, you'll see him there.


Posted by Pio on Nov-05-2002 07:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Nicke
WTF is Rachmaninoff?


BT is a trained classical pianist so that's where he's coming from. Rachmaninoff was a great piano Russian piano virtuoso late XIXth-early XXth century who wrote the most amazing and Romantic piano music ever.

If you've seen the movie Shine then you you would know about Rach's 3rd piano concerto, which is one of the hardest pieces for the keayboard ever written.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Nov-05-2002 09:54:

dude i dont know, but BT is the american god.


Posted by libra_1143 on Nov-05-2002 11:48:

quote:
BT sees himself as a producer and a performer, not really a DJ. I don't see anyway to compare BT to Oakenfold. It's like comparing apples to oranges.


I agree.

BT is a really damn good writer/producer. He's done film scores aswell. And his tunes are damn good technically, becuase of his background. Therefore, he makes his money like that.

Oakey is a damn good DJ who can get a crowd going by playing tunes. Therefore people go to see him and he makes money.

They both enjoy what they do, and make money for it, so I would give a big thumbs up to both of them for being sucessful at what they enjoy.


Posted by DJ-Ande on Nov-05-2002 16:56:

Dancing Dude

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
It's in there.....i assure you

I love it when deejays slam each other.....


ooooooooooooooooo yeah!!!!!!!!!


Posted by UWM on Nov-05-2002 17:20:

Re: Anyone read the new issue of mixer mag with BT? If not read this!!!

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cubano
Half the time when he's DJing, he's just playing CDs so he can do the Jesus Christ pose. It's an embarrassment.


What a hypocrit. BT sits there like a tool and does the same thing himself. I don't know if he's trying to mock Oakenfold or what, but he does it. Granted he is a talented producer, but saying things like this and then doing them lowers his character in my eyes.


Posted by nekholm on Nov-05-2002 20:24:

thanx for the info DJ P�o


Posted by Raptor on Nov-05-2002 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
dude i dont know, but BT is the american god.


i 2nd that!


no matter what BT will rock oakey anyday. the fact that BT & Oakey have been producing music for the same amount of time, BT has accomplish so much compared to oakey. Then you can compare to the amount of time they have both been DJing... BT was never a DJ till recently and i have heard one of his sets and its pure tunage, so if you compare the time spent for both of them BT will beat Oakey anyday!


#4


Posted by Dag on Nov-06-2002 00:04:

Talking

Finally,somebody had the balls give give Oak a kick in his...and YES,IT'S BT!

Not only is BT awesome with his music,not only awesome in person (or so I've heard ) he finally steps up where no one else would/could

#4 IS RIGHT

BT shall always own Oak

Dag.


Posted by MEAT on Nov-06-2002 01:19:

I want to hear them both play on the SAME night....that I would pay big bucks for


Posted by Rakoon on Nov-06-2002 01:38:

Haha thats pretty fooked. Oakenfold is a legend. He got tons of people into trance and released one of the best CD's ever, Tranceport. I'm not talking about now, I'm talking about the past. I dont care how bad he sucks now, he's still a legend and he's way better than some lamer who works with Britney Spears. Respect where respects due!


Posted by LiquidX on Nov-06-2002 01:49:

Re: Re: Re: Anyone read the new issue of mixer mag with BT? If not read this!!!

quote:
Originally posted by DJ P�O
BT can do it and get away with because he's BT, a kickass producer. BT would NEVER talk shit about Tiesto though, I can assure you of that.



Well, he DID talk shit about Tiesto about 1 - 2 years ago, so did he talk shit about Ferry Corsten ... mmm do some research about more of his interviews, I like BT, but he sometimes disappoints me with such comments.


Posted by LiquidX on Nov-06-2002 01:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ P�O
What does that have to do with anything? Believe it or not, Britney has a better voice than most trance singers out there (which are shit). And Britney has gotten some badass producers lately. How about THE NEPTUNES 'nuff said!


I cant believe what Im reading, someone is saying Britney Spears can SING ! ! ! DOOOOOOOOD you need some musical education .. of some kind, she cant SING ! Christina Aguilera sings alot better then her .. but come ON !


Posted by Pio on Nov-06-2002 01:55:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Anyone read the new issue of mixer mag with BT? If not read this!!!

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
Well, he DID talk shit about Tiesto about 1 - 2 years ago, so did he talk shit about Ferry Corsten ... mmm do some research about more of his interviews, I like BT, but he sometimes disappoints me with such comments.


I don't believe that. Prove it! What did he say?


Posted by Pio on Nov-06-2002 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
I cant believe what Im reading, someone is saying Britney Spears can SING ! ! ! DOOOOOOOOD you need some musical education .. of some kind, she cant SING ! Christina Aguilera sings alot better then her .. but come ON !



I'm not saying that Britney can sing, but most trance singers can't sing for shit either, and that was BT's point. That's why I hate songs with vocals.

I study classical music just like BT did, I don't think I'm in need of any more musical education than what I've gotten for the past 12 years


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