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Originally posted by Midlothian He doesn't, but if we'd be violently forced to pick one who'd actually deserve to be the star of the show it'd probably have to be him for not just being a quality guy in his field of work but also being absolutely decent and sincere. Regardless of whether you like the records he plays, produces and releases on his label or not.

Are you sure about that? Have you been reading his social media page? Apparently, Armin 'cares' for the Trance scene.
Hint hint since you are not getting it Joof. He did this because of money not because he cares. Same as you. Enough with your bullshit already.

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ASOT 850 was more than just an epic gig for me, as many of you know and heard the interview with Armin on ASOT radio there�s a nice story behind how myself and Armin van Buuren made this stage happen. The world of the internet is full of presumptions and theories believing that underground DJ�s dislike mainstream DJ�s, as much as they are desperate for this to be true to create some glorified social media entertainment, I�m going to quash all that in the next few minutes. This is more the case of two old mates from different spectrums of the scene uniting together to reinvest into the Trance eco system that they both feel passionately about. If there�s one single person I know I can have a deep knowledgeable chat about Trance, its Armin and thats exactly what we did for a couple of hours as he drove to Tomorrowland. He cares just as much as I do about the more specialist/underground side of Trance and why he wanted to make this Progressive stage happen for me and for that reason we all need to thank him. ASOT has become one of the leading dedicated Trance festivals in the world now covering all flavours of Trance music all under one roof, thats something to be very proud of. Armin was extremely busy that night, hosting the live ASOT radio broadcast, performing and general running around, so for him to head to the Progressive stage and hang out for a while with me, shows how much he cares for this scene too (see pic). Thank you to everyone that attended this new Progressive arena, the atmosphere was outstanding. You all love live sets, heres a rare one from me, my set from A State Of Trance

https://www.facebook.com/john00fleming/posts/10155132680380927

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Originally posted by Trance-M When I read his FB message of today, I think, yes, that's how it used to be and that's how I liked it. I'm not even a big fan of his music, but I totally feel what he's saying.

He sounds like those preachers who constantly preaches about religion.

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Originally posted by Omnisphere He sounds like those preachers who constantly preaches about religion.

Just like preachers you don't need to listen or believe all of it.

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Originally posted by Omnisphere He sounds like those preachers who constantly preaches about religion.

No reason to delete your last post referring to this JOOF interview at page 34: http://en.calameo.com/read/000390171c26414f565d2

He didn't say anything I didn't already hear from him.

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Originally posted by Trance-M No reason to delete your last post referring to this JOOF interview at page 34: http://en.calameo.com/read/000390171c26414f565d2 He didn't say anything I didn't already hear from him.

Deep down he knows how much of a wreck the scene is. Pretending like everything is okay is never a good sign. I am just disappointed that he sunk to this low and basically made friendships with Armin but then again, this is for PR reasons. Trance was very futuristic and very creative. Now you get extremely boring productions that don't go anywhere and don't excite you as much. All that touring I am sure is to blame for them losing their creativity.

I actually remember J00f playing tiny venues (and I'll say him talking about playing turnmills as some underground value is a rehash of history as he didn't make that grade for a long time in the circuit. That was one of the biggest clubs in the south and the main floor (trance on Saturdays, hard house on Sundays) was 1000+ people, with people like Oakenfold and Tall Paul regularly headlining).

Some were basically glorified squats in dingy parts of north or west london. Great times, but honestly j00f struggled to get out of that lower circuit; there was nothing really apart from a novelty name (they always spelled out john "00" Fleming in those days) and there were several other guys killing it production and DJ wise, especially when the dutch sound exploded in to the trance scene.

I honestly think a lot of John's eventual success was just plain perseverance where a lot of guys just quit as the scene died or evolved and he just kept playing "that" trance in smaller venues. I remember guys that were actually doing better than him on the circuit just eventually packing it in as they were never going to make it all the way as things consolidated with the death of superclubs in 00's and the rise of ASOT etc. He was kind of the last man standing in a way and his recent stature was really a result of hanging in there while endlessly promising a return to a glory of former years.

I will say if anyone has the right to profess that, it's him - some of those venues were literally 80 people in a dark room with a strobe or disused railway arches, and he kept plugging away.

I'm not sure if the Armin link now serves two purposes; it gives J00f a bigger platform to finally cash in (he must be tired of it all by now) and it somewhat gives Armin some credibility from a DJ that's actually playing something that resembles the music that Armin came up on but long abandoned in the pursuit of money.

Those defending Armin on a creative basis (i.e. clown that makes kids laugh) need to wake up; You just likened him to a clown. The guy's a lawyer, in charge of a massive entertainment corporation> sure he might get a kick out of a massive crowd, but there's no way a guy that made the tracks he did, DJ'd and lived through a scene that we had in the 90's actually thinks anything coming out of his ASOT speakers now isn't complete tripe.

It's valuable tripe in terms of income. But It's tripe.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I actually remember J00f playing tiny venues (and I'll say him talking about playing turnmills as some underground value is a rehash of history as he didn't make that grade for a long time in the circuit. That was one of the biggest clubs in the south and the main floor (trance on Saturdays, hard house on Sundays) was 1000+ people, with people like Oakenfold and Tall Paul regularly headlining). Some were basically glorified squats in dingy parts of north or west london. Great times, but honestly j00f struggled to get out of that lower circuit; there was nothing really apart from a novelty name (they always spelled out john "00" Fleming in those days) and there were several other guys killing it production and DJ wise, especially when the dutch sound exploded in to the trance scene. I honestly think a lot of John's eventual success was just plain perseverance where a lot of guys just quit as the scene died or evolved and he just kept playing "that" trance in smaller venues. I remember guys that were actually doing better than him on the circuit just eventually packing it in as they were never going to make it all the way as things consolidated with the death of superclubs in 00's and the rise of ASOT etc. He was kind of the last man standing in a way and his recent stature was really a result of hanging in there while endlessly promising a return to a glory of former years. I will say if anyone has the right to profess that, it's him - some of those venues were literally 80 people in a dark room with a strobe or disused railway arches, and he kept plugging away. I'm not sure if the Armin link now serves two purposes; it gives J00f a bigger platform to finally cash in (he must be tired of it all by now) and it somewhat gives Armin some credibility from a DJ that's actually playing something that resembles the music that Armin came up on but long abandoned in the pursuit of money. Those defending Armin on a creative basis (i.e. clown that makes kids laugh) need to wake up; You just likened him to a clown. The guy's a lawyer, in charge of a massive entertainment corporation> sure he might get a kick out of a massive crowd, but there's no way a guy that made the tracks he did, DJ'd and lived through a scene that we had in the 90's actually thinks anything coming out of his ASOT speakers now isn't complete tripe. It's valuable tripe in terms of income. But It's tripe.

I was referring to both and infact most producers wear out. I already know that Armin is a lost cause but it seems that Joof had different ideas. Your post proves my point that the scene is absolute shit. Most Trance fans don't give a shit attending these events anymore because it's not what it used to be.

Previously people gave a shit about the Trance scene, you know when it actually Trance. Now is whoever can take a selfie, or draw love hearts and be part of the "trance' family.

But then again, talking isn't going to solve anything. I don't think anything will until we see this stuff come crumbling down, so my rants won't really do much.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I actually remember J00f playing tiny venues (and I'll say him talking about playing turnmills as some underground value is a rehash of history as he didn't make that grade for a long time in the circuit. That was one of the biggest clubs in the south and the main floor (trance on Saturdays, hard house on Sundays) was 1000+ people, with people like Oakenfold and Tall Paul regularly headlining). Some were basically glorified squats in dingy parts of north or west london. Great times, but honestly j00f struggled to get out of that lower circuit; there was nothing really apart from a novelty name (they always spelled out john "00" Fleming in those days) and there were several other guys killing it production and DJ wise, especially when the dutch sound exploded in to the trance scene. I honestly think a lot of John's eventual success was just plain perseverance where a lot of guys just quit as the scene died or evolved and he just kept playing "that" trance in smaller venues. I remember guys that were actually doing better than him on the circuit just eventually packing it in as they were never going to make it all the way as things consolidated with the death of superclubs in 00's and the rise of ASOT etc. He was kind of the last man standing in a way and his recent stature was really a result of hanging in there while endlessly promising a return to a glory of former years. I will say if anyone has the right to profess that, it's him - some of those venues were literally 80 people in a dark room with a strobe or disused railway arches, and he kept plugging away. I'm not sure if the Armin link now serves two purposes; it gives J00f a bigger platform to finally cash in (he must be tired of it all by now) and it somewhat gives Armin some credibility from a DJ that's actually playing something that resembles the music that Armin came up on but long abandoned in the pursuit of money. Those defending Armin on a creative basis (i.e. clown that makes kids laugh) need to wake up; You just likened him to a clown. The guy's a lawyer, in charge of a massive entertainment corporation> sure he might get a kick out of a massive crowd, but there's no way a guy that made the tracks he did, DJ'd and lived through a scene that we had in the 90's actually thinks anything coming out of his ASOT speakers now isn't complete tripe. It's valuable tripe in terms of income. But It's tripe.

Apologies DJ Rann (I like how auto correct turns this to DJ Rant) , we must be very close friends that speak every week as you are talking on my behalf, but I don�t recall ever speaking to you once?

Let me refresh your memory of when I was resident at the legendary Zap club in Brighton for 8 years (1500 capacity) with Techno legends Dave Clarke and Eric Powell. At the same time resident at Sterns in Sussex (3000 capacity) and The Manor in Bournemouth (2500 capacity). In fact I held a handful of residencies at the same time, Bagley�s films studios every Friday in London (4000 capacity), Sunny side up at SW1 London (1800 Capacity), World dance club Angel London (1000), Colosseum London (2500), when signed to React records was resident weekly at their Wildlife nights each week at the legendary Heaven London (2500), then every other weekend at Trade Turnmills, London (1800 Capacity), Return to the source, Peach, Camden Palace and the list is endless.

I don�t ever recall playing at dingy squat parties in London, because I didn�t have time. That was probably due to my career expanding when the legendary Golden club made me resident in the Midlands, the same promoter ran Cream in Liverpool, so I was there once a month. Same story at Gatecrasher. Oh lets not forget my long residency at Gods Kitchen, I also compiled and mixed all their mix compilations, but never put my name to them.
International was same story, resident for Spundae at 1015 San Francisco and LA (club now called Avalon), and every month at Government Toronto (9,000 capacity). The list goes on.
That was probably something to do with me selling over 10 million mix compilations?

Yes I made this tone sarcastic, only to highlight that most of you here are second guessing whats going on and creating the now famous term fake news. Instead of contributing and rebuilding the Trance scene, you are contributing to the demise of the genre by being keyboard warriors and policing this forum and pointing the finger of blame. I personally know a handful of legendary producers that have given up due to forums like this because they couldn�t handle all the fake stuff going on. So there�s your contribution to the scene right there. Somehow I�ve learned to hardened up to it.

Armin isn�t responsible for fixing the scene, we all are. But it can�t be done by armchair forum police puling people down. I�ve been so close to leaving Trance many times because of this, it's a horrible eviroment especially here and why no DJs come here anymore and its slowly becoming a ghost town.

Trance is currently very healthy and growing in size, theres a massive underground scene thriving you just need to find it, I�ve been investing a lot of time meetings with Beatport, DJ mag, festival promoters, producers and they all identify this too and are looking to support it.

If you spent time researching, instead of being lost in your own bubble here, you�ll all find it and contribute and enjoying. But your negativity�s has created this lonely ghost town, a quick read through topics only highlights none of you see what we are seeing, hence why you are disconnected with reality�just like DJ Rann was with my history.


Finally for the record. I�ve been very good friends with Armin for well over 20 years. Its not suddenly a new thing. Same story with many other DJs from various genres.

That's some quality dick-stroking right here.

i have NFI what goes on in "the scene", but us being cunts to everyone and each other has very little to do with TA's decline. the real culprit is the surge in other social media platforms.

while some famous names definitely had a sook before quitting TA (dresden, lol) the simple fact is TA has not been an efficient platform to promote oneself for a really long time. and that's what most "names" were interested in back in the day.

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Originally posted by Woony That's some quality dick-stroking right here.

As pointed out full sarcasm mode, to point out what a load of fantasy drivel was spoke about me and my career.
The same slanderous stuff said about others too.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i have NFI what goes on in "the scene", but us being cunts to everyone and each other has very little to do with TA's decline. the real culprit is the surge in other social media platforms. while some famous names definitely had a sook before quitting TA (dresden, lol) the simple fact is TA has not been an efficient platform to promote oneself for a really long time. and that's what most "names" were interested in back in the day.

There's a rise in forums popularity again due to social media being full of trolls. If you want good specialist information, head to a dedicated forum where you get informative help and advice.

Music equipment forums are a perfect example of this.
Car forums.
Photography etc.

I used to love Tranceaddict due to this, but most topics seem to get derailed by the same old faces with their personal opinions. Myself and others would be here a lot more if it wasn't due to this.
The key with any buisness offer good quality content, and you'll get the clicks.

Trance needs as much help as it can get at the moment to help it step out of the dark place its currently in, a time everyone should get together.

TA is dead because trance is dead. It's that simple. People were kicking lumps out of each other here even when the forum's traffic was booming. Even J00F's own forum gets about three posts a day now, and that's effectively a fan club.

We all jumped on the promised "deep trance revival" circa 2011 and it never went anywhere. What's left to discuss? Naff psy-trance and Armin's latest monstrosity?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J TA is dead because trance is dead. It's that simple. People were kicking lumps out of each other here even when the forum's traffic was booming. Even J00F's own forum gets about three posts a day, and that's effectively a fan club. We all jumped on the promised "deep trance revival" circa 2011 and it never went anywhere. What's left to discuss? Naff psy-trance and Armin's latest monstrosity?

Oh I'm sure there's lots to discuss. But then I didn't actively jump on any "revival" circa 2011 so I can freely act like a na�ve Dutch kid. From the twenty-first century trance-like music originating in other corners of the electronic music world some of which, I think, Woony rightly referenced in one of his posts in this thread, through Platipus's revival (if that's an acceptable term there) to at least part of what John 00 plays which may be "naff" and un-trance to you but not necessarily to others. For instance. There's a lot of trance that bears little to no meaning to me personally (the "mainstream" side of it). There's all kinds of releases from the psy-side that I consider outrightly boring. Doesn't stop me from continuing to look for new music that I consider sufficiently trancy to call trance. I discovered Rickard Bergl�f's solo EP on Tribal Vision and considered it partly nice and trancy. I've been listenening to some of James Warren's Visceral and heard stuff I'd play early in a "trance" set. Just a few random things that came to mind while typing this reply on my work break.

Na�ve?

So many of your posts re trance and progressive I consider very informative, adds to my knowledge, but not necessarily everyone jumped on the same anti-bandwagon. Far to easy to just declare trance dead & consider it should be over with.

But then what I take from this thread is that categories are only becoming increasingly useless. John 00 for instance may not agree at all about some of the music I consider "trance"; whereas, say, Woony might not agree with some of the things John as DJ and I as audience both consider very "trance". Th�t's a discussion probably going nowhere.

I'm still here, not ashamed of telling that I love Uplifting or the 90's stuff others think is crap.
Like you said John, we all have to do it, running away, looking for forums with just fans that match your taste is not helping.
Accepting that there are people here with different taste is one part and at the same time very welcome.
It's totally ridiculous not a single DJ shares an opinion about Armin's recent productions which are far from trance.
And maybe the people who are complaining and sound negative actually are the real trance fans who also find those less known productions released by smaller labels.

What I find so funny about this is that anyone from early 90s wouldnt consider 1999 "trance" to be really trance at all. It's just going round in circles with labels.

Paul Van Dyk himself infact called 1999 trance "really cheesy shit music". That is on video

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J TA is dead because trance is dead. It's that simple.

surely both TA and trance could be dead independently?

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Originally posted by the-sixth Paul Van Dyk himself infact called 1999 trance "really cheesy shit music". That is on video

hahaha. i wonder what the paul in that video would think of the vonyc sessions

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J TA is dead because trance is dead. It's that simple. People were kicking lumps out of each other here even when the forum's traffic was booming. Even J00F's own forum gets about three posts a day now, and that's effectively a fan club. We all jumped on the promised "deep trance revival" circa 2011 and it never went anywhere. What's left to discuss? Naff psy-trance and Armin's latest monstrosity?

Jack, I really like you as a person, we've had many deep enjoyable chats about music.
Comments like this on a dedicated Trance forum are counter productive. Maybe consider heading to another place where your tastes are more aligned.

Trance is currently being reborn, but its over in the Melodic Techno and Progressive World. History is repeating itself, Laurent Garnier did the same thing creating a melodic version of Techno in 1990 that sparked a Trance scene. I was blessed and lived through that period and witness the birth of Trance.
As per history, the Trance world get to work evolving on this, making more uplifting versions, deep versions, vocals versions. Think Oliver Lieb, HOOJ Choons, Platipus days.

The Trance world has got lost for the last few years, for example I love the harder driving Prog style of Trance, but couldn't find it, so Psy became a band-aid to fill that void, until now as I'm finding more as the organic overflow from other worlds are heading our way.
I think Psy has become a band-aid for many others too from what they tell me.

Trance is such a unique versiitile genre, with so many different wings, euphoric, vocal, tech etc.
This makes an awesome musical journey in a club or festival when programmed well, we all play our part.
What I don't understand is people picking holes and telling Progressive Trance producers its not uplifting enough, when it was never intended to be uplifting, other guys do that and do it well. All this in-house fighting isn't helping, just accept some play and produce deeper others dont. They are musical tools for different reasons, no different than in the past.

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Originally posted by Midlothian Oh I'm sure there's lots to discuss. But then I didn't actively jump on any "revival" circa 2011 so I can freely act like a na�ve Dutch kid.

Well, lots of us did. We genuinely bought into J00F's mantra for a few years, and no doubt he did good business out of that renewed enthusiasm. After years of pessimism about new trance music on this forum, 2010-13 saw quite a lot of commitment to trying to revive it under this new, J00F-led banner. I did my bit. I went up and down the country supporting his events. I sifted agonisingly through Beatport trying to find the little gems of high quality modern trance that could be assembled into a mix. And eventually, three or four years had elapsed, and the whole thing was going nowhere. No new, young DJs were coming through. No producers were growing in traction. The sound never broke out into the wider world. You looked at everyone's tracklists and saw they'd all found the same five tunes that had come out in the last month and were halfway play-able. It was torturous. And that was probably what broke the back of TA's lingering community. We had enthusiasm and boosterism here for a while, and it didn't save the forum or the scene.

Meanwhile, out there in the rest of dance music, more melodic, hypnotic and occasionally euphoric music was slowly making a comeback. After a decade of minimal, tech house and ketamine, good quality pills were starting to flow out of your homeland, and people were more interested in melody and feel-good sounds again. The only problem was that it was all a good 10bpm slower than the stuff J00F had been pushing, it was hybridised between techno, tech house, progressive and classic trancey elements. It was the real "resurgence of trance music", and it happened totally outside the stubborn remnants of the trance community.

So, "trance" the scene is dead, except for its silly self-contained festivals and stages. Trance the vibe is alive and well elsewhere in the dance music world. Only problem is that nobody getting into it in 2018 is going to sign up to "TranceAddict.com" and expect to discuss it here. The word just carries connotation with circus acts like Armin and Above & Beyond.

How is Trance dead exactly?

-Millions of views for Uplifting and Psy Trance on Youtube.
-Many Tracks are released each month.
-Facebook fanbase for some Trance artists are 100,000+ .
-(In my country) there are many Psy trance parties with hundreds of "normies" attending, even street parties during the day in the middle of the town.


Sure, you need to go through hours of music before you end up the 10% which is interesting to you, but trance is very much alive.


TA is dying because computers are dying, most young people are on their phone now. TA's unwelcoming atmosphere is also not helping...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well, lots of us did. We genuinely bought into J00F's mantra for a few years, and no doubt he did good business out of that renewed enthusiasm. After years of pessimism about new trance music on this forum, 2010-13 saw quite a lot of commitment to trying to revive it under this new, J00F-led banner. I did my bit. I went up and down the country supporting his events. I sifted agonisingly through Beatport trying to find the little gems of high quality modern trance that could be assembled into a mix. And eventually, three or four years had elapsed, and the whole thing was going nowhere. No new, young DJs were coming through. No producers were growing in traction. The sound never broke out into the wider world. You looked at everyone's tracklists and saw they'd all found the same five tunes that had come out in the last month and were halfway play-able. It was torturous. And that was probably what broke the back of TA's lingering community. We had enthusiasm and boosterism here for a while, and it didn't save the forum or the scene. Meanwhile, out there in the rest of dance music, more melodic, hypnotic and occasionally euphoric music was slowly making a comeback. After a decade of minimal, tech house and ketamine, good quality pills were starting to flow out of your homeland, and people were more interested in melody and feel-good sounds again. The only problem was that it was all a good 10bpm slower than the stuff J00F had been pushing, it was hybridised between techno, tech house, progressive and classic trancey elements. It was the real "resurgence of trance music", and it happened totally outside the stubborn remnants of the trance community. So, "trance" the scene is dead, except for its silly self-contained festivals and stages. Trance the vibe is alive and well elsewhere in the dance music world. Only problem is that nobody getting into it in 2018 is going to sign up to "TranceAddict.com" and expect to discuss it here. The word just carries connotation with circus acts like Armin and Above & Beyond.

You also need to take into consideration the explosion of 'EDM' festivals over the past decade, this effected all genres and clubs. It was a tuff time watching clubs either close or struggle. The direct repercussions of this we are seeing today as the next generation entrance to the electronic scene is no longer EDM festivals but underground clubs, hence the mass movement we're seeing.
I see it first hand, the amount of small underground clubs and new promoters is incredible, I don't recall seeing such a movement for a long time. We all had to ride through the EDM storm, it lasted much longer than we expected.
Whats wrong with me believing in what I love? I lived through a few of the commercial fads in my 30 year career, and seen the change happen. I see history repeating itself. If you don't then you lose out.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming Armin isn�t responsible for fixing the scene, we all are. But it can�t be done by armchair forum police puling people down. I�ve been so close to leaving Trance many times because of this, it's a horrible eviroment especially here and why no DJs come here anymore and its slowly becoming a ghost town.

No disrespect, but most of us really don't care much about the scene one way or the other, much less to the extent that we feel compelled to fix it, or even see it improve on its own. Most of us have long since moved on to other sounds. Yeah, every now and then a thread like this will pop up where we discuss the state of trance, and sure, we'll trade very general, semi-informed impressions as to how dismal it is, but that's not to say we're actively keeping tabs on what's trending. You made mention of the topics on this board, and as you can see it's a pretty diverse mix; we don't just sit around and lamenting the death of trance and pining for a return to its glory days.

The simple fact is I (and many others) are perfectly at peace with how trashy trance has become, if for no other reason than the fact that things change. And that's fine. I don't feel the need to fix everything that's broken. There's just way too much good music out there for that to bother me.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming There's a rise in forums popularity again due to social media being full of trolls. If you want good specialist information, head to a dedicated forum where you get informative help and advice.

I have a hard time believing that people disillusioned with social media are seeking refuge in something as clunky as these dusty old discussion forums. There are indeed some renown forums that will always remain indelible mainstays of their focus, like the Gearslutz or the BodyBuilding forums. But those boards have professional ties and are regularly used for actual business purposes. That's why you can find an engineer who helped design that synth you bought troubleshoot on Gearslutz, or supplement reps to answer your questions over on the BodyBuilding boards.

But something like TA? It's just an antiquated way for people to come together and shoot the breeze on stuff that interests them, and Reddit and Google have to really come up short before you find yourself logging onto a vBulletin.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming Jack, I really like you as a person, we've had many deep enjoyable chats about music. Comments like this on a dedicated Trance forum are counter productive. Maybe consider heading to another place where your tastes are more aligned.

John, I don't know if you recall me saying to you five years ago that I thought you should drop the word "trance" and move away from that scene, because I thought it was a dead end. I think we wouldn't need to have this discussion now if that had happened, and I caught a trace of that sentiment in this recent Facebook post of yours:

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Here's a thought for you, some of the greatest Trance classics such as Energy 52 'Cafe del mar' that shaped the genre, if released today would be classed as Progressive House.

Unless you are into generic trance and progressive this music died over 12-13 years ago.
The polished and clean sound took over and the raw quality disappeared.
I find perhaps 20 good trance tunes every year or so, almost always from the same producers.
I dont like what JOOF and Airwave plays, their own productions sound SO much better then the rest of the music they play from other producers.

The Dark Matter release on JOOF recently is pretty damn good tho, quality stuff.

Trance should learn alot from the GOA scene where the oldschool sound is still primary.

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