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Posted by mongeone on Nov-18-2002 07:39:

bah funny stories!!! but you never know...

my friend, the guy that taught me, is a mad mixer full rips up hard... but he was telling me he started learning on abelt driven deck with no pitch control... and he didnt know any better for like 6 months!!!!!!

dah i say help em tell em what they are doing wrong... and if they got no interest in it let them use the im a dj thing... hell they just another man trying to get laid!!!

but anys funny stories galore!!!


Posted by Devbert on Nov-18-2002 09:46:

Re: ignorant friends!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Acid John
i have 2 or three friends that are so ignorant of djing being a talent, and a skill.

they dont even know what kind of music i spin, but when they hear that i have dex, they're like "hey john, lets go mix"....like its somethin they can pick up instantly.

they have no intention of trying to learn, because they dont even care what style i spin, and they think its as easy as moving a record back and forth (scratchin)

what do u think of people like this?


Just wanted to say that your friends are dip-shits.


Posted by basd on Nov-18-2002 11:01:

Personally I don't have any experience with this (yet ) but this must be one of the best threads I have read in a while !


Posted by Alccode on Nov-18-2002 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by mongeone
bah funny stories!!! but you never know...

my friend, the guy that taught me, is a mad mixer full rips up hard... but he was telling me he started learning on abelt driven deck with no pitch control... and he didnt know any better for like 6 months!!!!!!

dah i say help em tell em what they are doing wrong... and if they got no interest in it let them use the im a dj thing... hell they just another man trying to get laid!!!

but anys funny stories galore!!!


I disagree.. everyone that gives you a bad time in regards to DJ'ing (e.g. "I'm a better DJ, you don't know what you're talking about, blahblah"), do so because they are jealous and/or want to be better than you (if that's any different, that is). Why even bother trying to reconcile with them? They belong in the gutter along with every other wannabe.... you know where to tell them to go


Posted by Alccode on Nov-18-2002 21:37:

LOL I just remembered that I have a perfect story for this thread!

A few months ago when spinning at a house party, a girl was interested in the whole DJ'ing thing and was like, "ooh let me try! let me try!"

It was hilarious from the get-go, but I could see, right off the bat, that it would be impossible to explain why it would be a bad idea (not to mention, "NO; I'm spinning right now!") (I tried ). "That's not a good idea," I said, "You don't know anything about DJ'ing!" (or of trance, for that matter...)

"Teach me!"



Hahaha!! This was particularly hilarious, as she expected me to "teach" her in a few minutes so that she could "spin." In retrospect, it kind of strikes me of what little regard some people can have for DJ'ing (at least for us non-scratchers), thinking it so easy to do: "duh, you just put on the record and play, then put on another and play it when the first's done."

So after a few minutes of trying to explain how it would be impossible to "teach" her (within even a month!) - all the while trying to pull off transitions - someone else stepped into the picture:

"Hey dude! Stop being so selfish and let her try!"



(yeah right, a newbie on MY precious equipment, no way thank you very much)

LOL .. I was like "WTF?" Granted, the guy was a little drunk, so I just laughed - both in exasperation and hilarity

Apart from people interfering - and working hard to keep drunks away from the decks - the set was a success overall (from my standpoint), although no one really appreciated the music (being high-schoolers and all).

Just thought I'd share this gem of a hilarious experience.


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Nov-18-2002 22:41:

Fuck! I hate people! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!

Those slack jawed, knocked kneed, no good, god damn, freeloading, shit, son of a monkey fucking little dicked, freak faced, butt headed, nerdy, anti-trance, non-dj friendly, pop loving, e hating, little tikes riding, poser containing, britney spears liking, ghetto wanna be gangster talking, penile dysfunction of a trainwreck played over 2 minutes listening fucking assholes.




j/k PLUR!


Posted by musicaddict on Nov-18-2002 23:34:

looks like everybody wanna be a "DJ" now a day


Posted by Matt on Nov-19-2002 03:27:

for some reason its a common stereotype that DJs just play music and scratch.

High school dances are treated to shitty mobile DJs who play whatever the crowd wants and just crossfades between tracks. So, everyone thinks thats what it means to DJ. People don't recognize the lines between mixing, scratching and mobile DJing.


Posted by Alccode on Nov-19-2002 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Mosaic
High school dances are treated to shitty mobile DJs who play whatever the crowd wants and just crossfades between tracks. So, everyone thinks thats what it means to DJ. People don't recognize the lines between mixing, scratching and mobile DJing.


egzacatally!

perfectly said.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Nov-19-2002 20:53:

punkasses!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Nov-20-2002 12:52:

LOL @ allcode!!!!!!! (I'm with you, m8!)
reminds me of the time I used to be a mobile DJ... at every party I see tons of people trying to get into the booth.. lucky I had 2 partners in my crew, that kept the buggers away from me.... it's like, people just come to me and say "hey bro! let me mix!" and I don't even know the guy!!! one time, a 13 yr old came and said that to me, so I'm like "tha hell no!" so he has the nerve to say "awww... come on! don't be an asshole!!! gimme one mix. I'm your bro, ok?"... before he came I was like and ... when he started bugging me, I turned into !!!!
so I started screaming at the guy!! I'm all like "GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME!!! CAN'T YOU SEE I'M BUSY? YOU'RE PISSING ME OFF!!!!" and he was with 2 friends of his.... also 13 years old... and they started getting mad... so the 3 friends I "hired" to keep buggers away, came out of the booth and scared them away...


Posted by itsamemario on Nov-20-2002 13:25:

haha... this one time i was playing at a party.. was around 600 ppl there, and the stupid mofo that had the party didnt put up any fence around the stage, so ppl would come up and alot of shit to me...
one of these guys, were an.. uh... colored guy (?) and he was all like
wearing the biggest pants ive ever seen, and he was all like..
"yo play some rap mother******" and was like "no! i hate rap,
and btw, these are turntables, not cd players, i dont got any
hiphop on vinyl" i actually had some oldskool shit in my bag that ive borrowed from a friend of mine, but no way was i gonna fuck up my set, by playing hiphop, so i just told him to fuck off... and he did..
for a while, atleast...

i hate idiots like that!


Posted by itsamemario on Nov-20-2002 13:31:

and when talking about gear and stuff... you dont need to have gear to be a dj... i have known how to beatmix and do pretty cool mixes three years b4 i bought my tt�s


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Nov-20-2002 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Fuck! I hate people! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!

Those slack jawed, knocked kneed, no good, god damn, freeloading, shit, son of a monkey fucking little dicked, freak faced, butt headed, nerdy, anti-trance, non-dj friendly, pop loving, e hating, little tikes riding, poser containing, britney spears liking, ghetto wanna be gangster talking, penile dysfunction of a trainwreck played over 2 minutes listening fucking assholes.




j/k PLUR!
Easy there Fuzzy


Posted by Vizay on Nov-20-2002 20:19:

hmmm in my opinion you need more than just the gear to call yourself a dj....I mean I have gear and i spin frequently at home but have never spun in frnt of a crowd yet...I don't really like to call myself a dj just because I own a mixer, 2 cdplayers and a little djskill (although I call myself a DJ when I wanna impress people)


I think there are many types of dj's...me fe is what I would call a bedroom dj (for now atleast)

then you have the real dj's that spin at parties and clubs and so on

then there are people that don't have gear but still has the skills, maybe som kind of semi dj's


I could go on forever but i wont, just hoping you got my point


ohh btw I was in that "teach me" situation 2 one time...this girl comes up to the mixer (that was my friends gear but he wasn't there right then) and goes like -"ok, how do I mix"

I was like uhhmmmm this isn't even my gear so I don't really know but okey (I mean wtf she was a nice girl )

and then i started explaining the basics of geting 2 tracks to mix with eachother.....then when I was done she just looked at me and went like....-"how tha hell do you remember all that and do it all at once?"

so if you ever get into the situation where a person that doesn't know a piss about mixing want to try mixing just do the regullar explanation...and if they have whatsoever talent they will do it and probably do it decent, if not they will just walk away looking like a stupid mofo in their faces


Posted by Acid John on Nov-21-2002 06:24:

OMG it happened again!

me and kevin were talkin about this other party(not the one im spinnin for) this other party is being kept a secret by the student council, but everyone in it leaked the details out.

kevin didnt kno the details, so i told him.

then he asks me about the party i'll be spinnin for.
he asked, "hey, ur gonna spin at the other party. right?"
so i reluctantly say "yeaaaah.?"
then he says "well u can count me in on it too. ya know im good"
so i give another very reluctant "ha...ha..ha", and then just kinda trail off.


so u know what....im gonna do it. i'll let him spin for 10 min, or so!

i have 2 records from when i first started, that i dont really care for now.

so on tha day of the party im just gonna ask him "soooo, wanna spin as a little warm up before i get on?"
im gettin new carts soon, so on tha day of the party, i'll just bring the old ones. maybe bring the nu ones too as back up incase he breaks sumthin on the old carts.


i dont care how cruel it sounds, but he seriously has been gettin on my nerves lately.

and also, finally after his trainwreck of a "mix", i will order him to move his ass of tha tables, and then i can wow them. even by playin hard trance

*see the post "too young for hard trance" if ya dont know what i mean by that*


Posted by Alccode on Nov-21-2002 20:07:

Acid John, I suggest you don't do what you're planning on doing, because you can't "win" in any case.

First off, even if he trainwrecks, he will consider himself good - hell, he might not even beatmatch, just slide the x-fader across as a "transition." And people won't be able to tell the difference, being kids and all. Just being behind the decks will be "success" to him, and will make him look "cool."

Second, because of the above, you won't be able to "wow" them because they seriously won't know the difference between proper mixing and just sliding the fader across. Even if they did, they probably wouldn't care at all. Unless you scratch, they consider it all the same.

So save yourself the trouble and potential problems (equipment-wise, etc.) and just tell him "NO."

Just my 2 cents of opinion/advice.

Edit:

When DJ'ing, think of what you're doing as your "performance" (which is what it is! I'm just emphasizing it). What are some other artists that "perform"? Let's take guitarists. Would anyone come up to a guitarist in a band, while performing, and say, "dude, let me try! 'ya know i'm good'" (like your friend says). What do you think that guitarist would do? I leave that to your imagination.

What I'm trying to say is that you should carry an aura of respect about you - YOU're the DJ, and no one should be messing with you while you perform. Of course, this is respected in proper clubs and parties, where the crowd knows what it's there for. But at a high school or such, you will have to work hard(er) to get that same respectability. Don't tarnish it by letting some jackass, know-nothing kid behind the decks - nothing good will come out of that - certainly not to you nor your rep.


Posted by basd on Nov-22-2002 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Alccode
Acid John, I suggest you don't do what you're planning on doing, because you can't "win" in any case.

First off, even if he trainwrecks, he will consider himself good - hell, he might not even beatmatch, just slide the x-fader across as a "transition." And people won't be able to tell the difference, being kids and all. Just being behind the decks will be "success" to him, and will make him look "cool."

Second, because of the above, you won't be able to "wow" them because they seriously won't know the difference between proper mixing and just sliding the fader across. Even if they did, they probably wouldn't care at all. Unless you scratch, they consider it all the same.

So save yourself the trouble and potential problems (equipment-wise, etc.) and just tell him "NO."

Just my 2 cents of opinion/advice.

Edit:

When DJ'ing, think of what you're doing as your "performance" (which is what it is! I'm just emphasizing it). What are some other artists that "perform"? Let's take guitarists. Would anyone come up to a guitarist in a band, while performing, and say, "dude, let me try! 'ya know i'm good'" (like your friend says). What do you think that guitarist would do? I leave that to your imagination.

What I'm trying to say is that you should carry an aura of respect about you - YOU're the DJ, and no one should be messing with you while you perform. Of course, this is respected in proper clubs and parties, where the crowd knows what it's there for. But at a high school or such, you will have to work hard(er) to get that same respectability. Don't tarnish it by letting some jackass, know-nothing kid behind the decks - nothing good will come out of that - certainly not to you nor your rep.


Nicely put


Posted by Acid John on Nov-22-2002 02:55:

hmmmm....if only i thought before i typed.


yea...good point


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Nov-22-2002 12:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Acid John
hmmmm....if only i thought before i typed.


yea...good point


lol
yes
very well put
I think I'll start using that advice.......
I mean, I don't need someone to stand beside me and jump up and down.....
I'll just tell him I wanna do it alone or something.......

I mean, it's like he wants to take MY spotlight and MY publicity (and MY chicks )..... fuck that! I you can get publicity by jumping up and down next to DJ's, I can be a millionare....... lol...

fuck him and everyone who does that... if he's a real friend, he'll understand.......

same goes to you, Acid John.....


Posted by Dj Flesch on Nov-22-2002 14:21:

Honesty is a virtue, it is said. If kevin is really your friend, then talk to him and don't be afraid to confront him. Tell him, listen, I really don't think that you're ready to perform live yet. Then explain why, and do it nicely. He is your friend afterall. Why do you want to humiliate him?

If he is really adamant about djing, then show him the ropes, let him practice, and record his practice sessions, then point out where he needs to improve and how he can do that. After you do that, there will be one of two outcomes.

First he will realize that there is a LOT to djing and will lose interest. This will gain you respect in his eyes in addition to him potentially not bothering you about it anymore.

Or second, he will learn that there is a LOT to djing and will actually take the time to learn about it. Then you don't have to cringe when he asks to spin because you've taught him how to do it properly.

Again, if he is your friend, then treat him like one. Don't just try to "teach him the hard way". Think about how you would feel if one of your friends did something similar to you? I'm sure you know how long and humiliating other kids can make his embarassment--and you know they will too. Also, it may come to bite you in the ass too, when kids group both of you together and say, hey, look at the trainwreckers etc.


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Jan-20-2003 19:20:

haha!!!!

sorry for the bump, but you guys gotta hear this!!!
1st story:
a friend of mine walked over to me a few days ago and said to me: "hey oren! I heard that DJ Tiesto started spinning vinyl..."
and I was like "WTF!? Tiesto has been spinning vinyl ever since he started....."
so he told me "no, man.... he used to have like 6 CD cases and he used to spin CDs.... too bad though... now he has to throw away a whole bunch of CDs..."



lol!!!!!!

2nd story
oh! and I had my first club gig about 2 weeks ago.... and a friend was driving me over there.... so he asked me if he could do a few mixes while I'm up there (he has no gear, he trainwrecks EVERY mix he tries and gives me that "listen to my awsome mix! it's beatmatched like my face but that doesn't matter cause I'm such a hot DJ" smile....)... so I said no, and added: "get some gear, listen to some tracks, and learn how to push the buttons before you even think of humiliating yourself in a club" (pushing the buttons - on the CDJ... I spin CDs...).
so the f**kface starts laughing at me!!! he said "yeah right, man! why don't you just admit it? you know I'm better than you"....

I almost beat the crap out of him, but I passed, remembering he's my driver... so I just said "man, you don't have any gear! how can you decide you're ANY good??" so he answers "it's a gift..." yeah right!!
so I said "well, if you're so hot and god gifted, how come they hired me to play there and not you?" then he just giggled out of inconvinience and didn't answer.....

lol..... the best part was, he begged me all the way there that I'll let him mix, and when we got there, he saw the crowd and freaked out! and when I started mixing, he saw he can't compare to me... so he said "wow! I see you have been practicing..." and got out of the booth........

oh dear, what is this world coming to.......


Posted by TwiloThunder on Jan-20-2003 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by HyPeRSoNiC
haha!!!!

sorry for the bump, but you guys gotta hear this!!!
1st story:
a friend of mine walked over to me a few days ago and said to me: "hey oren! I heard that DJ Tiesto started spinning vinyl..."
and I was like "WTF!? Tiesto has been spinning vinyl ever since he started....."
so he told me "no, man.... he used to have like 6 CD cases and he used to spin CDs.... too bad though... now he has to throw away a whole bunch of CDs..."



lol!!!!!!


Tiesto's spinning Vinyl now? Why did noone tell me...

Man that does have to suck throwing all those CD's away.

LMAO. Are people really that dumb? I thought that was only on tv in hollywood


Posted by HyPeRSoNiC on Jan-20-2003 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by TwiloThunder
Tiesto's spinning Vinyl now? Why did noone tell me...

Man that does have to suck throwing all those CD's away.

LMAO. Are people really that dumb? I thought that was only on tv in hollywood


lol
believe me, people reach new peaks of dumbness every day..... aspecialy when it comes to trance....
but why does the dumbness have to be about trance all the time? is the music really THAT wierd?? sheesh!!


Posted by Acid John on Jan-20-2003 22:36:

thanx for the insight dj flesch.

i dont think i would really let him do that. i was just pissed off the day i typed that anyway

if im talkin to him and the topic comes up again, ill tell him that it wouldnt be a good idea for him to spin live at a party because he doesnt fully know what he is doin yet, but i'd be willing to teach him.

lol, but what if he says something like "no, i know what im doin, i dont need ya to teach me" (i kno him well, there is a decent chance he will say sumthin like that)


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