Madonna - Die Another Day [Tiesto Dedicated Remix] & Nobody's Perfect [Tiesto Remix]

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Posted by Djeebie on Nov-21-2002 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
Fair enough, but since tiesto hasn't produced at track since 2001 leads me to think that 'tiesto being a great producer' is bull shit.

Tiesto has always been one to take time over the mixes hes done. Except Gatex but he just wanted to make the original more club friendly. Its easy to see for anyone that these mixes arent tiesto, they are not tiestos style, if they were tiesto he sure as hell would've been playing them in his sets. However, they are not and although I cannot provide you with the 'proof' you should be able to notice it anyway if you open your ears like a true TA

Well I think he didn't make the remixes of Moby and St. Etienne, which we're probably talking about, to spin them in clubs or festivals. They just don't fit there. Usually he plays at 'top time', say from 2-4, so he has to spin energy and no 'sleepy' songs. He has to get the crowd moving and that won't work with the Moby remixes.

Also I find these remixes typical for his 'new' style. He said he changed direction a bit and was experimenting with producing. He even made a breakbeat remix of Elvis Presley's Burning Love.

However, I get your point and I can understand if you don't like his remixes, but I'm still saying he's not cheating on TA's by letting others make remixes for him.

Posted by George Kendall on Nov-21-2002 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Djeebie
Well I think he didn't make the remixes of Moby and St. Etienne, which we're probably talking about, to spin them in clubs or festivals. They just don't fit there. Usually he plays at 'top time', say from 2-4, so he has to spin energy and no 'sleepy' songs. He has to get the crowd moving and that won't work with the Moby remixes.

Mate this is Tiesto, he played 'DMB - The Space Between )Tiesto Mix)<--a sleepy tune
Peak time as his 1st tune and Talla 2XLC had just finished with 'Microbe - Xit 2 Nowhere (Mind One Mix)

So thats you're theory out of the window, Tiesto doesn't build his sets anymore, hes gone very random, and its a shame

Posted by Djeebie on Nov-21-2002 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
Mate this is Tiesto, he played 'DMB - The Space Between )Tiesto Mix)<--a sleepy tune
Peak time as his 1st tune and Talla 2XLC had just finished with 'Microbe - Xit 2 Nowhere (Mind One Mix)

So thats you're theory out of the window, Tiesto doesn't build his sets anymore, hes gone very random, and its a shame

LOL. Well, you kinda got me there. But I still think his remix of The Space Between is kinda different from his remixes of Moby I don't know how to say it well, but The Space Between is more likely to be played in a club than e.g. We Are All Made Of Stars. It's very hard to explain. However IMO he made the remixes himself. But it's true he has trouble building his sets. Sometimes he's kinda like Johan Gielen and that's absolutely no compliment

Posted by Nick_Jay on Nov-22-2002 00:07:

madonna

u guys realise Tiesto didnt remix "Nobodys Perfect" it was a bootleg done over the top of a trouser enthusiasts remix.. so the vinyl containing die another day and nobodys perfect, i hightly doubt it.

Cheers.

Nick

Posted by biznology on Nov-22-2002 00:24:

Thank God Oakie isnt popular, so the old 'Oakenjoke' 'he doesnt produce his own work' 'he sucks' 'lets start a flamewar' can now apply to Tiesto.

Thanks X-Hale! now only if you put that much effort into music you DO like!

As for the remix...ill still think the Deepsky remix of DAD is the best, until i hear evidence otherwise...and feel dirty for having a madonna song on my computer|

Posted by Dave_Masters on Nov-22-2002 00:27:

quote:
Originally posted by kurai
You better be quiet Mr. Dumonde-Fanatic just check out THEIR recent works in case you didn't notice they're getting worse and worse.

He does have a point there ste mate lol!

Posted by LiquidX on Nov-22-2002 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
I thought I was in a cheesy nightclub when Tiesto played this at Gatecrasher @ NEC.

Its commercial cheese wank

Too bad for you I guess

Posted by LiquidX on Nov-22-2002 00:38:

Posted by UWM on Nov-22-2002 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
Mate this is Tiesto, he played 'DMB - The Space Between )Tiesto Mix)<--a sleepy tune
Peak time as his 1st tune and Talla 2XLC had just finished with 'Microbe - Xit 2 Nowhere (Mind One Mix)

Actually Talla 2XLC had just finished with his version of 'Can You Feel the Silence?'. Not saying I like the DMB track, I think its shit. Just letting you know what actually happened.

Posted by Pio on Nov-22-2002 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
OK, but do you realise that Tiesto didn't even produce most of the remixes with his name on?

His black hole studio boys do most of the remixes at his request, excluding 'Gatex' and 'Tears from The Moon'

I'm tired of people giving tiesto so much credit for things he hasn't done.

Also as a DJ hes become very poor, believe it or not he was my favourite DJ last year but it seems hes forgotten how to mix, and he can't even build a set properly, the structure is all over the place.

+on the subject of him being a great producer he hasn't even produced a single this year?

Ignorance is bliss. You don't know what you're talking about. I had a lengthy conversation with Tiesto himself about this and he told me he produced by himself in 2002:
1. Paul Oakenfold-Southern Sun
2. Roc Project-Never
3. Umek-Gatex
4. Conjure One-Tears from the moon
5. Moby-Extreme Ways
6. Junkie XL-Breezer
7. Madonna-Die Another Day

and he had the major producing role in:

8. Klea-Tic Toc (Magik Muzik rmx)
9. Dreamcatcher-I don't wanna lose my way (Magik Muzik remix)

Hey, I think these are all alright, in fact, some of them are awesome.

The funniest thing is that you say you can tell these are not done by Tiesto because they are shit mixes, implying that Tiesto is indeed a good producer.

And you call Tiesto's NEC Gatecrasher set cheesy nightclub music???? I wish all cheesy nightclubs had a DJ that spun music like this. Tiesto's track selection was superb to anyone else's that night, by far.... at least from the recorded sets.

Posted by JKX on Nov-22-2002 04:14:

Well done DJ Pio! Finally, the tribe has spoken...

See how people here enjoy lurking here to take a piss on Tiesto and his remixes'not'being done by him and talking about incurring legal problems publishing what? Your idea of calling a Tiesto a human being driven by greed to make remixes of big name top artists?

Please...before one speaks, one thinks. But I am afraid in your very case, you have already labelled Tiesto as being an unstructured, train-wrecking DJ, money sucking remixes in your mind...

So if you have any balls at, and I mean IT, at all, take it to Tiesto himself. Publish your story here....I double dare you in fact! I am willing bet US $ 10,000 that you wouldn't dare take that side of you to even Tiesto himself as he's simply too a friendly chap to be taking pisses from you unsucessful trance DJs wannabes.

As for the 10K, I'll put up an auction UP for it on Ebay once you have your story published here...haha, let's see who getting X'ed here?

Show some balls and less of your trash talk, you double talking jive!

JKX!

Posted by nrGeorge on Nov-22-2002 09:15:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
I hate those vocals, its a shit track

I'd be suprised if Tiesto actually did the remix himself, since most remixes hes done this year havent been his own work.

But most you 'tiesto lovers' are too clueless to know that.

I know of only 3 remixes this year that Tiesto did himself.

Anybody who says Tiesto is quality needs to have a good listen to 'St Stienne - Action (Tiesto Mix)

OMG its possibly the worst tune I've heared all year.

The fact that you don't like Tiesto's work doesn't make the people who actually like it clueless.
I believe that you should be more open-minded ! Every artist has his ups & downs, nice and poor releases ! Tiesto usually delivers quality tracks,sets,remixes !
Music is something personal and everybody has a unique taste!There's no need to argue about Tiesto or anyone else

Posted by kurai on Nov-22-2002 09:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
Heard they're mix of Rank 1 Symsonic? no didn't think so.....
Going to shut up?? please do.....

You mean their remix of Symsonic?

Was I talking to you? Don't think so.
Going to mind your own business? Hope so.

Besides I was a huge fan of Dumonde, I almost own every of their older works (just a few missing), but their "new" style I don't like.

Hi-Gate - Saxuality [Dumonde Remix]
Jam-X & DeLeon - Mind Made Up
Jam-X & DeLeon - Can U Dig It
Jam-X & DeLeon & Tom Wax - Louder, Softer

Disappointing! Using their old style would have made a killer tune out of Saxuality, although I love the Original! [But not the Sax of course].

Kaylab - Here We Go [Dumonde Remix] is still one of my fav. trance tunes! But that thread wasn't meant to discuss about Dumonde, so

Posted by neovalkyr on Nov-22-2002 09:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Djeebie
That probably was the fake one. His remix of Nobody's Perfect hasn't been released yet. The one which you probably meant was Geri Halliwell - Bag It Up (Trouser Enthousiasts Mix) mixed with Madonna - Nobody's Perfect.

damn i hate fake crap, that pisses me off the version i have is 9:11 is that the same length you got?

Posted by Djeebie on Nov-22-2002 09:59:

quote:
Originally posted by neovalkyr
damn i hate fake crap, that pisses me off the version i have is 9:11 is that the same length you got?

Could be. I don't have it anymore. Deleted it the same day because it was fake.

Posted by Spad on Nov-22-2002 10:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ P�O
Ignorance is bliss. You don't know what you're talking about. I had a lengthy conversation with Tiesto himself about this and he told me he produced by himself in 2002:
1. Paul Oakenfold-Southern Sun
2. Roc Project-Never
3. Umek-Gatex
4. Conjure One-Tears from the moon
5. Moby-Extreme Ways
6. Junkie XL-Breezer
7. Madonna-Die Another Day

and he had the major producing role in:

8. Klea-Tic Toc (Magik Muzik rmx)
9. Dreamcatcher-I don't wanna lose my way (Magik Muzik remix)

Hey, I think these are all alright, in fact, some of them are awesome.

The funniest thing is that you say you can tell these are not done by Tiesto because they are shit mixes, implying that Tiesto is indeed a good producer.

And you call Tiesto's NEC Gatecrasher set cheesy nightclub music???? I wish all cheesy nightclubs had a DJ that spun music like this. Tiesto's track selection was superb to anyone else's that night, by far.... at least from the recorded sets.

I think the statement about Tiesto not producing a single this year meant his own original work, not remix's.

As for his NEC set, things have been blown WAY out of proportion. The fact is he was VERY good that night, and his mixing was nowhere near as bad as people are making out (though those that weren't there have to remember that what was broadcast wasn't the entire set). In perspective thought, MIKE made just as many mistakes as Tiesto that night (I'd even say MIKE's was more noticable, he mixed a tune in on completly the wrong beat!).

Tiesto does need to work on his consistancy but don't go overboard about the NEC mixing because in truth, it really wasn't that bad at all!

Posted by Ste on Nov-22-2002 10:32:

first of all i would like to make a little point before i go on. i never "flamed" this thread, merely made a joke about flaming, can everyone please get a life, do you have nothing better to do than bitch at me because i dont like tiesto and you do?

quote:
Originally posted by DaveC

He does have a point there ste mate lol!

actually not

person who dave quoted: dont get me started on tiesto! you jsut dont wanna knwo all the facts ud probably cry.

dumonde may not be as good as they were last year but they sure havnt plummeted to a murky grave as per say, mr tiesto. then again we all knwo tiesto doesnt make his own tracks so...

just because sumbody isnt as popular with all you lot doesnt mean theyre worse. please think.

bye.

Posted by George Kendall on Nov-22-2002 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ P�O
And you call Tiesto's NEC Gatecrasher set cheesy nightclub music???? I wish all cheesy nightclubs had a DJ that spun music like this. Tiesto's track selection was superb to anyone else's that night, by far.... at least from the recorded sets.

Were you there? NO

Was I? YES

Is you opinion worth shit? YES

Has Tiesto even produced a single this year? NO

Is Tiesto a money grabber getting people to do his remixes (svenson & gielen, st ettiene, moby etc..) for him? YES

Are you talking out of your arse? YES

Posted by tiestoinmix on Nov-22-2002 14:10:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
Were you there? NO

Was I? YES

Is you opinion worth shit? YES

Has Tiesto even produced a single this year? NO

Is Tiesto a money grabber getting people to do his remixes (svenson & gielen, st ettiene, moby etc..) for him? YES

Are you talking out of your arse? YES

why u put fire in a silent thread?

Posted by George Kendall on Nov-22-2002 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by tiestoinmix
why u put fire in a silent thread?

No need to be so big mate, just making a point.

For you that werent there at the nec, you didn't hear tiesto, mixing gatex, failed really poorly. Stopped the tune that was playing and start gatex from the begining

Yeh Tijs is a real pro

Posted by tiestoinmix on Nov-22-2002 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
No need to be so big mate, just making a point.

For you that werent there at the nec, you didn't hear tiesto, mixing gatex, failed really poorly. Stopped the tune that was playing and start gatex from the begining

Yeh Tijs is a real pro

Yeah i heard his mixing @ NEC was poor! But this you mention could happen to anyone dj they are all humans and doing faults! Remember the starting of AvB @ Godskitchen Global Gathering...

You can't blaim Tiesto for that

Posted by George Kendall on Nov-22-2002 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by tiestoinmix
Yeah i heard his mixing @ NEC was poor! But this you mention could happen to anyone dj they are all humans and doing faults! Remember the starting of AvB @ Godskitchen Global Gathering...

You can't blaim Tiesto for that

Yes but Tiesto's mixing was poor on several occassions, Armins was class and he came on straight after.

I do remember Armin @ Global gathering coz I was there too but he soon picked up.

Tiestos set was poorly built and he played 'silver bath, overkill, and la rock 01, which were all played in his last nec set in april.

Sorry but that for me is not the set of a number 1 DJ

Posted by tiestoinmix on Nov-22-2002 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
Yes but Tiesto's mixing was poor on several occassions, Armins was class and he came on straight after.

I do remember Armin @ Global gathering coz I was there too but he soon picked up.

Tiestos set was poorly built and he played 'silver bath, overkill, and la rock 01, which were all played in his last nec set in april.

Sorry but that for me is not the set of a number 1 DJ

don't know!
in the full tracklist of set i saw he played CJ Bolland - The Prophet and i was jealous !!

i want to hear one day that song in gatecrasher

Posted by George Kendall on Nov-22-2002 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by tiestoinmix
don't know!
in the full tracklist of set i saw he played CJ Bolland - The Prophet and i was jealous !!

i want to hear one day that song in gatecrasher

lol, Armin played it at global gathering also

Anyway, I will see Tiesto (3 hou set) on Boxing day with M.I.K.E at gatecrasher, if hes shit, I will flame him more

Posted by tiestoinmix on Nov-22-2002 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by X-Hale
lol, Armin played it at global gathering also

Anyway, I will see Tiesto (3 hou set) on Boxing day with M.I.K.E at gatecrasher, if hes shit, I will flame him more

drop some bananas in to his face

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