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Posted by Az on Dec-02-2002 15:05:

codes lasers are well better, shame it's full of wankers tho


Posted by Volksjoolz on Dec-02-2002 15:10:

are you guys being serious???

the new lasers were amazing!!! they came on about 12am (i remember because they made my eyes go weird as i was coming up!) and stayed on through the rest of the night!..

during rank 1's set they were fantastic! i loved the new red/blue colours and some of new effects blew my head off!!!


Posted by CyberTeraz on Dec-02-2002 15:14:

To be honest I didnt actualy see any of the new lasers! But I have heard good things!


Posted by Spad on Dec-02-2002 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Volksjoolz
spad, hardwicks warm up sets are legendary, yes (3rd NEC particualrly sticks in my head) but he definatly needs to be up with the big gun names now and he deserves the later slots for consistently delivering the goods!

unlike some other fat kebab wielding Italian we all know and love dancing to!

remember you havn't heard alot of matt's best stuff of late cause you you've been skint!!!


Lol please don't try and tell me I don't know what a Hardwick late set sounds like And I don't know why you're bringing Piu into it coz I'm the first to agree Hardwick is significantly better.

Yes i agree, he does deserve to be up with the big guns. My points are

a) His late sets are very anthemy and predictable
b) His warmups are better

plus c) He's GC's resident. I personally get very bored with seeing the same DJ's every time I go. In my opinion the place for residents is early, warming up for the guest DJ's who appear at peak times. If they're good enough (which I agree Hardwick is) they'll get to play elsewhere in later slots, but the place for a resident in clubs should be warming up for the guests. GC have got lazy by using their residents for peak time slots. When you're paying the sort of money GC charge, for the reputation GC have, you expect them to make an effort with the lineups. Sure a Harwick/Bond B2B is a nice treat, and in the example of the Birthday was very appropriate. But these things should be the exception rather than the rule IMO.


Posted by Ste on Dec-02-2002 15:27:

i have only ever heard hardiwck play a hard set once, and that was at promise's 2nd birthday, it it was fucking amazing, i think we should have one at crasher!


Posted by Volksjoolz on Dec-02-2002 15:35:

yeah ok good points my chesterfieldian compardree!

i would stil (knowing what i'm going to expect from hardwick) pay the same as any other big name DJ now. I wouldn't before for a resident BUT as matt has proved time and time again that he can deliver, surely he should be given the best times at his resident club?!

ok so gc shouldn't over compensate for his talent by placing him last EVERY month because it would be stupid (and monotomous) but i think matt has excelled in his credentials to be able to play a late set every now and again!

I think he is beyond playing warm up sets these days and maybe (as you say)his tunes may be predictable in places, but alot of the time thats what the people in crasher actually want to hear!

just my opinon though!


Posted by Spad on Dec-02-2002 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Volksjoolz
surely he should be given the best times at his resident club?!


Not all the time IMO, every now and then yes but his place is warming up.

quote:
Originally posted by Volksjoolz
ok so gc shouldn't over compensate for his talent by placing him last EVERY month because it would be stupid (and monotomous) but i think matt has excelled in his credentials to be able to play a late set every now and again!


Yes, now and again

quote:
Originally posted by Volksjoolz
I think he is beyond playing warm up sets these days and maybe (as you say)his tunes may be predictable in places, but alot of the time thats what the people in crasher actually want to hear!


I don't think warmup sets are "beyond" anybody. It's just a different style and one that Hardwick is amazing at! There are a huge number of DJ's out there playing at House/Prog clubs at peak time who play the same style. Just that in crasher, it's used to warm up for Trance. Ashley Casselle for instance. When he plays crasher he warms up because that's the kind of music used for a warmup in crasher, but at another club he might have the last slot of the night.

Unfortunatly you're right about what the crasher crowd want. But didn't Gatecrasher make it's name by being original and distinctive? The last few months what has crasher really done that other clubs havn't? Did you see the lineup for Gods last Friday? I'd kill to have a lineup like that at crasher. The main thing crasher has going for it is the crowd, take them away and you've got just another Trance club. Crasher needs to get its arse back in gear and start booking some more original DJ's.

Last weekend was a very good example, Solarstone, Kai Tracid, Rank 1. With Harwick warming up Whether they were liked or not, at least it was something different and interesting. Now do us a favour crasher, don't book any of the DJ's that appeared last night again for a good couple of months and do something original. Oh dear, just seen the Boxing Day / NYE lineups


Posted by Ste on Dec-02-2002 16:07:

yes i thought the other night was great,m and made a refreshing change, also armin playing different to his usual style was better!

but now crasher have that friday weekly crasher on for up and coming talent, it will kinda be there "testing gorund" for new and different DJs to use for the monethlies.

hopefully petre foy will be chosen


Posted by djrichy on Dec-02-2002 16:37:

Piu was on when i first got there. it was my first time so i didnt know what to expect. when i heard him playing i thought that it were gona be a shit nite. but when he fucked off the whole nite just got so much better!! Tracid's first song was the Beach Boys one and it was awesome. what is that track called? infact, has anybody got a tracklisting for his whole set - it owned!!


Posted by decode on Dec-02-2002 17:11:

Oh yea i cant get over how good tracid was he totally blew me away.
What did u think to it then richy?? Was it as good as u expected & will u go again?


Posted by djrichy on Dec-02-2002 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by decode
Oh yea i cant get over how good tracid was he totally blew me away.
What did u think to it then richy?? Was it as good as u expected & will u go again?


mate it were so good. i were on a high all nite - well, after Tracid - it were average up until him. im hopefully going again real soon. probably saw you but ive no idea what u look like!


Posted by djrichy on Dec-02-2002 18:22:

right, i NEED to know what that Beach Boys tune were called that Trancid played, and also that tune which went something like "...balls of phuric acid" or something! help me!


Posted by JONNY on Dec-02-2002 18:30:

piu cant mix but i dint mind his set all that much.. cos he played mi 2 of mi fave tunes, BK - Revolution n Dariush - Ira! wooo. lol, n also Madagascar. I also thort Airwave was quality wen Rank 1 played it! hehe .wots the name of the Beach Boys tune Kai Tracid played cos i fancy another listen. It wer my first time at crasher n i thought it was a top nite n will defo b going again!

n another thing, a cd was made of all the sets from saturday but got nicked by someone, mi brothers mate works behind bar at republic n told him, wonder if its gets its way onto the net. ne one else heard owt bout this?

GREETZ JONNY!


Posted by Az on Dec-02-2002 20:35:

I reckon Jon O'Bir should be given a shot, he was fucking ace on friday night...


Posted by Ste on Dec-02-2002 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
I reckon Jon O'Bir should be given a shot, he was fucking ace on friday night...


too right! a much better exampel of a warm up set! was mint!


Posted by Az on Dec-02-2002 20:43:

when he played James Holden - Nothing I flipped, dont know why


Posted by Ste on Dec-02-2002 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
when he played James Holden - Nothing I flipped, dont know why


i thought it was a fave tune of urs?


Posted by djrichy on Dec-02-2002 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by djrichy
right, i NEED to know what that Beach Boys tune were called that Trancid played, and also that tune which went something like "...balls of phuric acid" or something! help me!


The Beach Boys - I Get Around (need the remix!!!!!!!!!!!1)

Kai Tracid - Trance and Acid (Derb Remix) ("hearing the music is just like seeing the colours of trance and feeling the power of acid!")


Posted by Az on Dec-02-2002 21:42:

hmmm i do like it, but i heard tunes i like a lot lot more, and didn't go as crazy as that
also, when dumonde played trauma, it wasn't the dub, and it wasn't the vocal mix...more like half and half, weird


Posted by djrichy on Dec-02-2002 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
Doing it straight was an odd experience...(<-- ).


why? i cant imagine it any different - apart from being pissed off course! whats it like when youve had something?


Posted by Ste on Dec-02-2002 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
hmmm i do like it, but i heard tunes i like a lot lot more, and didn't go as crazy as that
also, when dumonde played trauma, it wasn't the dub, and it wasn't the vocal mix...more like half and half, weird


nah mate it was the dub, the dub still has synthesised quiter vocalpart in the middle

apprently the remix of beach boys is a derb mix.




djrichy, try it and find out, hehe


Posted by djrichy on Dec-02-2002 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR
apprently the remix of beach boys is a derb mix.
djrichy, try it and find out, hehe


mate - im sooo tryin!
by the way - no need to call me djrichy - just call me rich!


Posted by DJ_FRAZ on Dec-02-2002 22:10:

ooooh im a bit late posting here :S:S:S

I think i only met one new person off here and that was Ste, nice to meet you mate, lol at when you shouted "IM DUMONDE TRANCER!!!" wish i had more time to talk to you, and wish i met some of the other guys!

and then there was weezhard who i met again, nice to see you there again mate cos you were the only one i saw at the NEC

i was feeling quite shit though throughout the night, i'd been ill since thursday with flu or something, but i wasn't gonna let that ruin my night.

I was cheered up though about 3am when i met one of the guys from Solarstone outside the chillout room, cos for some reason it was curtained off, and he came outside and i said alright mate! whats going off in there? he said oh its the VIP room for tonight, i was like... ooh right :S. so i said nice set earlier anyway!! he said thanks mate, im just fucking off back to the hotel now cos im fucked or something, and then he said here take my pass, you look as though you could do with a rest... so im like he was stood there for about 10 minutes trying to get it off his arm without damaging it, but he did it. sorted





i took about 50 pics and a couple of movies on saturday night, heres a few of me and dan (decode)






Posted by decode on Dec-02-2002 22:14:

Grr u only take pics of me when im compleatly fucked.
Btw didnt piu play Megamind - Taub???


Posted by djrichy on Dec-02-2002 22:31:

i saw that dude in the scream mask. i definatly saw you Fraz - u knew one of my mates. were gona say something to ya but u thought u'd have no idea who i were!


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