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Posted by Martin McG on Dec-23-2002 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Ekstasis
I would be afraid the record would shoot off into the crowd and kill someone at 50%


how much would you piss yourself laughing if you saw or read that in a newspaper

"clubber killed by spinning record"


Posted by djdawn on Dec-23-2002 09:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Zain
I own tech 1200's. How can i change the pitch. Are there any downsides to this? (Like there is to Overclocking a computer?) Thanks.


just read my post two posts above yours'!


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Dec-24-2002 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by big dave
how much would you piss yourself laughing if you saw or read that in a newspaper

"clubber killed by spinning record"





thats some funny shit but id be like they used the word clubber


Posted by ExOn on Dec-24-2002 17:12:

Cool! When i get my Techs i will most definatly do that!


Posted by dEEkAy on Dec-25-2002 04:46:

I think I read about new Technics on ivibes or trance.nu

they support +/-20% as far as I remember.

Maybe these are standards in those clubs already ?


Posted by undertensecond on Dec-25-2002 05:48:

however,i got to admit that some songs that he played fast is better as they are meant to be faster


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Dec-27-2002 02:56:

dude what you were say about the pitch slider last time i checked.........just about 100% of DJ's used a turntable with pitch controle.....and it was at a rave to.....plus its PvD he can afford to go out and buy some new tech's if he needed a new pair everyday so i would have to go with he used pitch controle to make it faster


Posted by djdawn on Dec-27-2002 05:21:

I don't think you got the question right...

PvD plays some records faster than +8% which is the standard maximum pitch on Technics and many other players.


Posted by dj_ray_c on Dec-29-2002 12:19:

With the DJM 600 you can tweak the pitch as an effect. So he could for instance just crank that up a little and then use the decks as normal, would also allow him to vary the tempo much easier.

The other option is timestreching whihc at big events with a good system he could get the engineer to do very easily


Posted by VaNFeCto on Dec-31-2002 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by trancearmada
or stanton str8-100's can go +25 pitch adjust or vestax can go +50!


yea so can the numark ttx-1


Posted by webbie on Jan-02-2003 22:51:

Timestretching ?


Posted by whitesmoke on Jan-03-2003 06:41:

pvd in miami on fri night hit speeds of 148 bpm and i counted 2 1 min intervals b/c i did not believe it. if you want to really speed up your tracks get the pioneer cdj-800s they have +/- 100%. so you could play a song at about 280 and get the crowd really moving


Posted by joeh on Jan-05-2003 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by whitesmoke
pvd in miami on fri night hit speeds of 148 bpm and i counted 2 1 min intervals b/c i did not believe it. if you want to really speed up your tracks get the pioneer cdj-800s they have +/- 100%. so you could play a song at about 280 and get the crowd really moving


Or just kill them?

/me sees pillheads dropping like flies


Posted by Mod1 on Jan-05-2003 14:58:

YOU CAN MAKE 1210'S GO FASTER!!!!! ITS ALL UNDER THE BONNET AND ITS QUICK TO DO!!! ALL YOU NEED IS 1x CROSS HEAD SCREWDRIVER

I used to do it all the time.
1-remove slipmatt
2-stick yer fingers in the lil round holes.
3-get leverage on the deck and pull the platter off. it might be stiff the first time but it will go ok!! put it down safely so you dont chip the magnet.
4-undo the retaining screws in the black plastic grill and put them in the lil well where that 7"adaptor thing goes so you dont lose em!!
5-lift off the round plastic cover
6-CAREFUL NOW- you will see a circuit board. on that circuit board you will see a lil' blue plastic dial that should be pointing to about 1oclock with PITCH written next to it!! Turn this gently clockwise till it gets to about 5oclock and it should stop.
7-put it all back together again


try the deck now!!! not sure what the new ratio is %wise but it is more than enough. and you should have the required result.

PVD has been doing this for years as have many german trance djs.

Hope this answers your question.


Posted by joeh on Jan-05-2003 22:10:

If PVD has the same 33rpm version as Korean DJ,
and the speed he played the track on the set was slower than it being played at 45rpm,
but it wast faster than it being played at 33rpm +10%

45rpm is basically 33rpm + 35%, so his pitch control goes up to somewhere between +10% & +35%

Or Maybe he was using a CD?
Doubtfull that he would get a vinyl pressed at an increased speed

Or maybe he played it at 45 with the pitch down -10% (which is the same speed as 33 + 23%)


Some decks capable of this pitch:

Numark TTX1 (+/- 50%)
Gemini PDT6000 (+/- 35%)
Vestax PDX2000 (+/- 50%)


Posted by Mod1 on Jan-06-2003 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
If PVD has the same 33rpm version as Korean DJ,
and the speed he played the track on the set was slower than it being played at 45rpm,
but it wast faster than it being played at 33rpm +10%

45rpm is basically 33rpm + 35%, so his pitch control goes up to somewhere between +10% & +35%

Or Maybe he was using a CD?
Doubtfull that he would get a vinyl pressed at an increased speed

Or maybe he played it at 45 with the pitch down -10% (which is the same speed as 33 + 23%)


Some decks capable of this pitch:

Numark TTX1 (+/- 50%)
Gemini PDT6000 (+/- 35%)
Vestax PDX2000 (+/- 50%)


did you not read my post?


Posted by joeh on Jan-06-2003 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by modular
did you not read my post?


Yes, i did

However, i would have only foud it benificial if:
A) i owned technics
B) i wanted to increase their pitch range

I belive this thread was for ideas about how he could have achived high pitch for cream in ibiza.

Would he really take his own, modified technics? If not, then would he start taking apart their technics to modify them, when the club was full of people??

I was just putting forward a theory that someone else suggested, that maybe the decks were capable of this speed as standard. Ekstasis said that no decks could achive such high speeds, so I listed decks that, in fact could, but maybe he knows more about these decks than the people who make them???


Posted by Mod1 on Jan-06-2003 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by joeh152
Yes, i did

However, i would have only foud it benificial if:
A) i owned technics
B) i wanted to increase their pitch range

I belive this thread was for ideas about how he could have achived high pitch for cream in ibiza.

Would he really take his own, modified technics? If not, then would he start taking apart their technics to modify them, when the club was full of people??

I was just putting forward a theory that someone else suggested, that maybe the decks were capable of this speed as standard. Ekstasis said that no decks could achive such high speeds, so I listed decks that, in fact could, but maybe he knows more about these decks than the people who make them???



ive done it at a club....once you know how its quick as fuck to do. mix in your first tune then do the empty deck. do second tune and do the remaining deck.....just be quick!!!!

used to go to 'the orbit' in leeds and seen many a dj do it ...pvd....marco zaffarano.....germans mainly hehe

he mabye asked for them to be sorted like it b4 he went on

the quote about pitch-shiters earlier on is fundamentally daft ..that kind of pitch shifter would make the record sound higher pitched but would not change the speed


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