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Posted by igottaknow on Dec-28-2002 04:28:

If this turns out to be as true as "Cold Fusion", I'm goin to buy bushel of cloned rotten tomatoes a throw them at that stupid woman. On second thought even she's not lieing, I'm still goin to do it.

Posted by Lira on Dec-28-2002 04:36:

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Originally posted by Arbiter
Here we go again:

1. That which is derived from nature is natural. (by def. of natural)
2. Human beings are derived from nature. (premise)
3. Cloned humans are created by humans. (premise)
4. That which is created by something is also derived from it. (by def. of derive)
5. Cloned humans are derived from nature. (by 1 and 3)
6. Cloned humans are natural (by 1 and 5)

So this theory works both for cloned humans and porn?! How handy j/k, I like this theory, even though I don't agree 100% with it

Posted by kirbtastic on Dec-28-2002 04:38:

arbiter, once again i am completely impressed with your logic, but once again i have a question for you...is plastic natural..it is created by humans, but isnt found naturally on the earth, i guess that question goes for all synthetic materials.

Posted by Arbiter on Dec-28-2002 04:39:

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Originally posted by kirbtastic
arbiter, once again i am completely impressed with your logic, but once again i have a question for you...is plastic natural..it is created by humans, but isnt found naturally on the earth, i guess that question goes for all synthetic materials.

Yes, in fact, I would go so far as to say unnatural things do not exist.

Posted by Greedy on Dec-28-2002 05:27:

this baby is gonna have some major social problems growing up. Poor kid.

Posted by Nadi on Dec-28-2002 05:32:

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Originally posted by Busy Child
this baby is gonna have some major social problems growing up. Poor kid.

Yea I really hope the kid is never told that s/he is a clone, otherwise she'll get soooooooo much shit from other people, I'm sure it would give the person lots of doubts even disregarding other peoples harrasment.

Posted by uRsUS on Dec-28-2002 06:13:

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Originally posted by Busy Child
this baby is gonna have some major social problems growing up. Poor kid.

This was my first thought about this cloning shit!!! Poor child, hand-made zombie...

Posted by zarathustra on Dec-28-2002 07:35:

I'm going to be sceptical about this report right now. The cult refused to show pictures and they claim that there are several more cloned babies due shortly. This sounds more like a publicity stunt than anything else. I doubt the Raeliens would submit the baby to be tested so it can be confirmed by reputable scientists. Until I read in Scientific American that this is in fact authentic, I will remain sceptical.

Posted by .montecarlo. on Dec-28-2002 09:05:

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Originally posted by zarathustra
I'm going to be sceptical about this report right now. The cult refused to show pictures and they claim that there are several more cloned babies due shortly. This sounds more like a publicity stunt than anything else. I doubt the Raeliens would submit the baby to be tested so it can be confirmed by reputable scientists. Until I read in Scientific American that this is in fact authentic, I will remain sceptical.

what would pictures prove?

Posted by Luke Terry on Dec-28-2002 16:10:

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Originally posted by Eugene
Plus, if you read that article, it says that the group that claims that believes that humans originate from aliens.

i reakon that human life does originate from alien species, but has evoloved so much since the relativity is little.

i believe this because comets and meteors (whichever one is the frozen ice) have been found with micro-organisms on them and that a school of thought about how life entered earth and life still does, just through the process of evolution u dunno which strain turns out to be humans and dogs etc....

Posted by jdat on Dec-28-2002 16:54:

the cult of Rael is crazy

my dad having spoken to a couple members, even interrupting a certain number of their meetings well I've heard crazy stuff about these people ...

like their interpretation of the bible story where Jesus was able to feed a crowd of thousands by multiplying the breads and the fish wasn't actually multiplication of food .... he had little capsules that would grow and become loafs of breads ........ freaks

in france ( where most of the members are ) they practice "sexual awakening" between members of all ages ...... that is fuxxed up

Posted by Lira on Dec-28-2002 17:08:

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Originally posted by jdat
in france ( where most of the members are ) they practice "sexual awakening" between members of all ages ...... that is fuxxed up

Weren't they sued for that? As I recall it, one of these fooked up sexy churches was having problems all over the world because they would kidnap children and force them to have as many sexual intercourses as possible, so they would "keep mankind alive"

Posted by jdat on Dec-28-2002 17:14:

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Originally posted by Maaz
Weren't they sued for that? As I recall it, one of these fooked up sexy churches was having problems all over the world because they would kidnap children and force them to have as many sexual intercourses as possible, so they would "keep mankind alive"

yes I believe they were sued but it never really got anywhere ...

like couple years back the Solar temple sect that commited suicide in Switzerland QUebec and France was in court in France and "magically" tons of documentation for the court case dissapeared .......

Posted by zarathustra on Dec-28-2002 19:55:

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Originally posted by InsomnEac
what would pictures prove?

Pictures wouldn't prove anything. Absence of pictures could mean something. Maybe the child is horribly disfigured, maybe there is no child at all, who knows? All I'm saying is that we can't conclude that a human baby was cloned based solely on a statement from a cult.

Posted by .montecarlo. on Dec-28-2002 20:08:

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Originally posted by zarathustra
Pictures wouldn't prove anything. Absence of pictures could mean something

not really, they could easily take pictures of any baby and proclaim it is the clone... i don't think the absence/presence of pictures lends much to the credibility of their claim.

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
All I'm saying is that we can't conclude that a human baby was cloned based solely on a statement from a cult.

yeah, i get what you're saying... they seem a little out there.

Posted by jdat on Dec-28-2002 20:14:

back in the 70s some millionaire paid to have himself cloned and the child was to be carried by a 16 year old virgin .... they later fell in love and founded a real family ......... that was never proven

and no, this is not a joke

listen to the story here : real audio archive

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